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Just wondering, because I read that as well EK is loosing pilots(is that even true?), similar Fly Dubai.
Where do you go after a job like that? Ryanair? Norwegian? Easy?
Same for the EK drivers...
Or is it seriously China? Then a lot are up for a surprise....
Again, I do not want to attack anyone, but I am really curious which airline an EK driver(and EZ of course) finds worthy of his services.
Where do you go after a job like that? Ryanair? Norwegian? Easy?
Same for the EK drivers...
Or is it seriously China? Then a lot are up for a surprise....
Again, I do not want to attack anyone, but I am really curious which airline an EK driver(and EZ of course) finds worthy of his services.
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Some are going to Jet2 , Ryanair , Norvegian , British Airways , Air France other ( from the USA ) are going back to American Airlines , United Airlines or even some corporate jet companies.
The main thing is that most probably you are just thinking about the net salary that you get here BUT there are other problems that you have to cope with when in the Middle East...
I will not explain as this is discussed in detail in many places on this forum.
Mainly people just want to go back closer to their family and friends , enjoy more cultural events and get away from the extreme heat we have for 6 to 8 months a year.
The main thing is that most probably you are just thinking about the net salary that you get here BUT there are other problems that you have to cope with when in the Middle East...
I will not explain as this is discussed in detail in many places on this forum.
Mainly people just want to go back closer to their family and friends , enjoy more cultural events and get away from the extreme heat we have for 6 to 8 months a year.
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Dubaigong,
You left out the debilitating rosters.....
Yes it's true, many are indeed leaving for pastures new, but, many would also stay if the rosters weren't so inhumane and unprofessionally administered.
Money means nothing without health.
Flydubai KNOWS that the rosters are bad, they just cannot or will not do anything about it.
You left out the debilitating rosters.....
Yes it's true, many are indeed leaving for pastures new, but, many would also stay if the rosters weren't so inhumane and unprofessionally administered.
Money means nothing without health.
Flydubai KNOWS that the rosters are bad, they just cannot or will not do anything about it.
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Thank you to both about replying.
Well, i worked for QR for over 2 years(was DEC there) till I decided Qatar(the airline + country) is nothing for me or my family.
However, I do fly regulary into DXB and there is a clear difference between this 2 countries(probably you have to be in QR first to see a difference here) and for sure between the 2 airlines - point.
I fly now in Europe which is quiet all right but nothing special as the salaries and the state deductions(let's call it tax and social contribution, shall we
) are extremely high without getting EVER anything comparable in value returned. Well, that's the price of "social states" and I am comfortable with that.
BUT - neither one of the famous 2 buckets of the ME are ever getting full, working down here gives at least the chance to make some good money and still paying your social security back home so you get something(not much) upon retirement.
Going back to a lowcost in Europe (or the states) still has the risk that your small base might be shut down from 1 day to another and then the commuting(yep, from there it comes) starts all over again.
As for the mainlines - you will be stuck there as FO till retirement, most likely.
Corporate - did that, doing it right now as well. It is ok, but again, commuting wears you out over the years. No driver that brings you from home to work and back all the time.
Again - I have seen some of the much more ugly sides of the middle east operation(I am sure much worse then EK or EZ can ever be) and I am glad that I made my move out of there back in the days. BUT the grass is not greener(ok, well it is
, I like European vegetation and riding a bicycle with my kids in the woods) workwise on the other side.
Sure, there are work laws, some kind of union(not in most european countries) but still ways that ANY managment tries to put pressure on you to do THAT flight.
And I have worked once in the LH group and had to discuss with the FOM why they could not send me on my last day of Stby on a 3 day rotation killing all my off days.
Fact is, the pilot job became a ugly one, best if someone is able to squeeze as much money as possible out of it and make it into retirement.
Well, thanks again, I was really wondering where a EK/EZ pilot would go and believe it is the better job.
I understand the family issue and most likely on some stage this becomes the most important issue for a pilot. I was lucky till now and always managed to have my family with me so that was never a really big concern.
Well, i worked for QR for over 2 years(was DEC there) till I decided Qatar(the airline + country) is nothing for me or my family.
However, I do fly regulary into DXB and there is a clear difference between this 2 countries(probably you have to be in QR first to see a difference here) and for sure between the 2 airlines - point.
I fly now in Europe which is quiet all right but nothing special as the salaries and the state deductions(let's call it tax and social contribution, shall we
) are extremely high without getting EVER anything comparable in value returned. Well, that's the price of "social states" and I am comfortable with that. BUT - neither one of the famous 2 buckets of the ME are ever getting full, working down here gives at least the chance to make some good money and still paying your social security back home so you get something(not much) upon retirement.
Going back to a lowcost in Europe (or the states) still has the risk that your small base might be shut down from 1 day to another and then the commuting(yep, from there it comes) starts all over again.
As for the mainlines - you will be stuck there as FO till retirement, most likely.
Corporate - did that, doing it right now as well. It is ok, but again, commuting wears you out over the years. No driver that brings you from home to work and back all the time.
Again - I have seen some of the much more ugly sides of the middle east operation(I am sure much worse then EK or EZ can ever be) and I am glad that I made my move out of there back in the days. BUT the grass is not greener(ok, well it is
, I like European vegetation and riding a bicycle with my kids in the woods) workwise on the other side. Sure, there are work laws, some kind of union(not in most european countries) but still ways that ANY managment tries to put pressure on you to do THAT flight.
And I have worked once in the LH group and had to discuss with the FOM why they could not send me on my last day of Stby on a 3 day rotation killing all my off days.
Fact is, the pilot job became a ugly one, best if someone is able to squeeze as much money as possible out of it and make it into retirement.
Well, thanks again, I was really wondering where a EK/EZ pilot would go and believe it is the better job.
I understand the family issue and most likely on some stage this becomes the most important issue for a pilot. I was lucky till now and always managed to have my family with me so that was never a really big concern.
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Commuter0815 ,
you were in Doha years ago , it seems that things have changed quite recently...
Pilots were leaving Qatar Airways for EK or the other company that can not be named BUT recently the conditions have improved and the reverse movement has started.
Also coming to Dubaï for a few days or weeks is totally different than living here for a long term.
I see that it is " bearable " for a few years and after things are a lot more difficult to cope with.
Again there are many factors involved and it depends on where you are coming from , what are your expectations , your family situation , your ability to cope with the driving circus and traffic jams , the multicultural environment etc...
you were in Doha years ago , it seems that things have changed quite recently...
Pilots were leaving Qatar Airways for EK or the other company that can not be named BUT recently the conditions have improved and the reverse movement has started.
Also coming to Dubaï for a few days or weeks is totally different than living here for a long term.
I see that it is " bearable " for a few years and after things are a lot more difficult to cope with.
Again there are many factors involved and it depends on where you are coming from , what are your expectations , your family situation , your ability to cope with the driving circus and traffic jams , the multicultural environment etc...
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You will find the answer to your question on their website in the " about us " career section...
There is a difference if you are type rated or not.
Type rated : ICAO with type rating within the last 24 months
English language proficiency level 4 or above
1500 Hours total time
500 Hours B737 300-900
Non type rated : Same as above for the first 2
2500 Hours total time
1000 Hours on Efis aircraft above 10 tonnes
There are other conditions that you can check on the website for the full détails.
Cheers.
There is a difference if you are type rated or not.
Type rated : ICAO with type rating within the last 24 months
English language proficiency level 4 or above
1500 Hours total time
500 Hours B737 300-900
Non type rated : Same as above for the first 2
2500 Hours total time
1000 Hours on Efis aircraft above 10 tonnes
There are other conditions that you can check on the website for the full détails.
Cheers.
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Anyone in the pool with a joining date lately??
I've seen FZ has started doing recruitment events again but I'm not sure if they're calling people from the pool or not.
Regards.
I've seen FZ has started doing recruitment events again but I'm not sure if they're calling people from the pool or not.
Regards.
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May i know which agency running the show in Istanbul? All i got now is CTC doing Jan 2016 assesment in Southampton and Sao Paolo. And of course £245 assesment fee that need to be paid
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Monthly Average:
Good Day all! I did scroll through most of the 161 pages but wanted to get some updated info on your flying status, if you'd be so kind to reply below.
(MONTHLY AVERAGE)
Flight Hours:
Number of Layover nights (and locations?):
Days Off:
Satisfied / Unsatisfied with schedule:
For non-layover destinations, if you return as a Deadhead do you get flight pay? Because if DH counts as flight time, you wouldn't work many days in a month right?
Muchos Gracias!
(MONTHLY AVERAGE)
Flight Hours:
Number of Layover nights (and locations?):
Days Off:
Satisfied / Unsatisfied with schedule:
For non-layover destinations, if you return as a Deadhead do you get flight pay? Because if DH counts as flight time, you wouldn't work many days in a month right?
Muchos Gracias!
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Flight hours: on average anywhere between 85h to 90h, can be a bit less, can be more.
If your roster says 85 block hours, but you have let's say 3 deadheads, you know that in fact you're over 100h (deadheads don't count in your block hours). However you get flight pay for half of your deadhead time.
Layovers: if you don't bid for them, anywhere between 0 and 1 a month.
Locations: bangladesh, sri lanka, tanzania, czech republic (don't think about it if you don't have a high seniority number). I believe Uganda is deadhead now.
Days off and roster: depends on your seniority.
If your roster says 85 block hours, but you have let's say 3 deadheads, you know that in fact you're over 100h (deadheads don't count in your block hours). However you get flight pay for half of your deadhead time.
Layovers: if you don't bid for them, anywhere between 0 and 1 a month.
Locations: bangladesh, sri lanka, tanzania, czech republic (don't think about it if you don't have a high seniority number). I believe Uganda is deadhead now.
Days off and roster: depends on your seniority.
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(MONTHLY AVERAGE)
Flight Hours: 85-95
Number of Layover nights (and locations?): Prague, Chittagong, Dhaka, Colombo, Dar es Salam, Entebbe. Normally 24-48 hrs.
Days Off: Depends on your seniority, don´t expect more than 8 when you join
Satisfied / Unsatisfied with schedule: very unsatisfied, reporting fatigue is the norm
For non-layover destinations, if you return as a Deadhead do you get flight pay? Because if DH counts as flight time, you wouldn't work many days in a month right? You´re get paid for the half of the flight time on the DH sector
De nada!
Flight Hours: 85-95
Number of Layover nights (and locations?): Prague, Chittagong, Dhaka, Colombo, Dar es Salam, Entebbe. Normally 24-48 hrs.
Days Off: Depends on your seniority, don´t expect more than 8 when you join
Satisfied / Unsatisfied with schedule: very unsatisfied, reporting fatigue is the norm
For non-layover destinations, if you return as a Deadhead do you get flight pay? Because if DH counts as flight time, you wouldn't work many days in a month right? You´re get paid for the half of the flight time on the DH sector
De nada!
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Hi, also looking for information regarding the following:
- Loss of license
- Life insurance
- How many sick days leave per year?
- Any profit scheme available?
- Do they provide an anual leave ticket or any kind of allowance for it?
Sorry for the questions, but I've been searching in most threats about FZ and could not find information about.
Thanks.
- Loss of license
- Life insurance
- How many sick days leave per year?
- Any profit scheme available?
- Do they provide an anual leave ticket or any kind of allowance for it?
Sorry for the questions, but I've been searching in most threats about FZ and could not find information about.
Thanks.
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@Commuter0815
I myself am one of the ones leaving FZ for a well known flag carrier.
I've been in Dubai 2.5 years as an FO, single, early 30's and have to say I am not leaving because I dislike it here at all. It's simply because an opportunity has arisen that for me and my goals in life I cannot turn down. I think this is the same for many of my fellow friends that are also on the way out to similar places.
FZ has never really been a long term option, nothing about it is. The rosters are steadily getting worse, even for senior FO's, and there has been no attempt at trying to keep people here with regards to other perks that come as standard at most major airlines.
That said the money here is good and the flying is certainly interesting, although I don't agree we should be flying to some of the destinations we do!
Dubai is a fun place to live and I will genuinely miss the lifestyle here. Sailing, Diving, Beach clubs etc..
I think FZ is an airline where you come in, do your work, pick up your pay check every month and try not to complain. Complaining here gets you know where, nothing will change. The crew I've worked with are fantastic and for me this philosophy has allowed me to have a happy time here in Dubai and i'll look back on it with fond memories.
Good luck to all those who apply.
Remember this is just my opinion, hopefully this will help others applying to have a more balanced viewpoint.
I myself am one of the ones leaving FZ for a well known flag carrier.
I've been in Dubai 2.5 years as an FO, single, early 30's and have to say I am not leaving because I dislike it here at all. It's simply because an opportunity has arisen that for me and my goals in life I cannot turn down. I think this is the same for many of my fellow friends that are also on the way out to similar places.
FZ has never really been a long term option, nothing about it is. The rosters are steadily getting worse, even for senior FO's, and there has been no attempt at trying to keep people here with regards to other perks that come as standard at most major airlines.
That said the money here is good and the flying is certainly interesting, although I don't agree we should be flying to some of the destinations we do!
Dubai is a fun place to live and I will genuinely miss the lifestyle here. Sailing, Diving, Beach clubs etc..
I think FZ is an airline where you come in, do your work, pick up your pay check every month and try not to complain. Complaining here gets you know where, nothing will change. The crew I've worked with are fantastic and for me this philosophy has allowed me to have a happy time here in Dubai and i'll look back on it with fond memories.
Good luck to all those who apply.
Remember this is just my opinion, hopefully this will help others applying to have a more balanced viewpoint.