Flight deck positions at FlyDubai Master Thread - Merged
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From: Under a deckchair, Jumeirah Beach, 3 lamppost from the left
Hmmm I'm with Voodoo, four parts 3, with a slug of 2, and a tiny dash of 1. The perfect Cock-Up Cocktail.
PBS is yet another silver bullet management solution; the universal panacea to all our troubles, used to stick a finger in the dam of attrition. PBS does work, well, but only if the underlying structural, scheduling, and personnel issues have been nailed down. Lets face it, the rosters were bad when we had 10 aircraft and manual rostering, bad when we had 20 aircraft and AIMS and as has seemingly already been proven, a disaster with PBS and 30 aircraft.
As with any recovery program, recovery can only begin if you realise that you have a problem and actually want to change and make it better. I've yet to see any evidence that there is even the slightest concern that, on a corporate level, rostering is anywhere near a big enough problem so face up to the challenges and changes required in individual managers and employees confront the problems.
Bottom line, flydubai is what is, come take the money hang on for as long as you can, when you can't handle it any more get out, because those with power to improve it clearly don't, can't, and won't do it.
Shame it has to be what way that because it really could be quite good.
Right I'm off to update my log book!
F-C
PBS is yet another silver bullet management solution; the universal panacea to all our troubles, used to stick a finger in the dam of attrition. PBS does work, well, but only if the underlying structural, scheduling, and personnel issues have been nailed down. Lets face it, the rosters were bad when we had 10 aircraft and manual rostering, bad when we had 20 aircraft and AIMS and as has seemingly already been proven, a disaster with PBS and 30 aircraft.
As with any recovery program, recovery can only begin if you realise that you have a problem and actually want to change and make it better. I've yet to see any evidence that there is even the slightest concern that, on a corporate level, rostering is anywhere near a big enough problem so face up to the challenges and changes required in individual managers and employees confront the problems.
Bottom line, flydubai is what is, come take the money hang on for as long as you can, when you can't handle it any more get out, because those with power to improve it clearly don't, can't, and won't do it.
Shame it has to be what way that because it really could be quite good.
Right I'm off to update my log book!
F-C
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Flight deck positions at FlyDubai Master Thread - Merged
It's numbers, the day that the following facts are accepted and correct ratio's of crew numbers to aircraft are implemented, then things will improve.
1) flydubai is a twenty four hour airline.
2) it is regulated by CAP 371 as amended.
3) except for regulated schemes included in CAP 371 or its supplements, it is not negotiable.
4) fatigue risk management is here to stay at ICAO level, neither is it negotiable.
When the good practices noted above are implemented, then PBS will work. Trying it any other way is doomed to fail.
1) flydubai is a twenty four hour airline.
2) it is regulated by CAP 371 as amended.
3) except for regulated schemes included in CAP 371 or its supplements, it is not negotiable.
4) fatigue risk management is here to stay at ICAO level, neither is it negotiable.
When the good practices noted above are implemented, then PBS will work. Trying it any other way is doomed to fail.
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From: Below the tropopause
@ Vortac1. Housing has remained the same. Everyone cries out for an increase but the company stated that the current ammount was in line with the market rate. I think they missed the 30% increase in rents over the last 12 months. (Quote from Gulf News article)
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Vortac1: The Basic Salary, Housing Allowance, Transport Allowance, and Flight Pay, have all remained the same.
Tangmo: It is rumoured, by some, that 'Preferential Bidding System (PBS)' is a euphemism for 'Probably Bull !!!!'.
As for rumours regarding a fancy new uniform. Looking into the future, in this pic we can see a some flydubai pilots, attending a low-fares promotional parade, looking resplendent in their new flydubai uniform. Complete with properly big hats, plus lots of dubai-style bling, the medals they wear with pride upon their chests are awarded for the number of times that that pilot has flown into a war zone whilst in the service of flydubai and are more correctly known as "We're monitoring it" awards. Also, and contrary to how it might appear, these pilots are not retirees, oh no sireee. These 'young men' are currently serving pilots, whom just happened to look old, haggard, & shell-shocked, as a result of the horrendous rostering they've had to endure.
Tangmo: It is rumoured, by some, that 'Preferential Bidding System (PBS)' is a euphemism for 'Probably Bull !!!!'.
As for rumours regarding a fancy new uniform. Looking into the future, in this pic we can see a some flydubai pilots, attending a low-fares promotional parade, looking resplendent in their new flydubai uniform. Complete with properly big hats, plus lots of dubai-style bling, the medals they wear with pride upon their chests are awarded for the number of times that that pilot has flown into a war zone whilst in the service of flydubai and are more correctly known as "We're monitoring it" awards. Also, and contrary to how it might appear, these pilots are not retirees, oh no sireee. These 'young men' are currently serving pilots, whom just happened to look old, haggard, & shell-shocked, as a result of the horrendous rostering they've had to endure.
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From: Dubai
Guys, please stop your b*tching!
The Chief Pilot is looking into it, along with the safety department too. I have complete faith in their inability to rectify all of our concerns.
And remember, all you need to do is take a look at the recent HR survey which clearly states 'flydubai is a great place to work'....... if you don't work as flight deck or cabin crew.
p.s. Be safe up there
The Chief Pilot is looking into it, along with the safety department too. I have complete faith in their inability to rectify all of our concerns.
And remember, all you need to do is take a look at the recent HR survey which clearly states 'flydubai is a great place to work'....... if you don't work as flight deck or cabin crew.
p.s. Be safe up there
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From: Monrovia / Liberia
STOP PRESS !!!
According to well connected sources, I'm delighted to report that the Spaceman has finally left the building !
No more shall we suffer his asinine assurances of connections to 'black ops' and / or ever have to wonder how a man with seemingly no commercial jet type rating on his home license (just look him up) could ever call himself a 'Captain'... oh the mysteries he wove.
In salutation to a spectacular underachiever and a true legend in his own imagination, his departure will indeed be celebrated, by many!
No more shall we suffer his asinine assurances of connections to 'black ops' and / or ever have to wonder how a man with seemingly no commercial jet type rating on his home license (just look him up) could ever call himself a 'Captain'... oh the mysteries he wove.
In salutation to a spectacular underachiever and a true legend in his own imagination, his departure will indeed be celebrated, by many!
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Tis true what the elderly royal miner doth say.
Word been going round for a while that he may well be heading back to his ranch many miles west of here.
Now as our science holigans at Mythbusters occasionally say, Confirmed!!
Word been going round for a while that he may well be heading back to his ranch many miles west of here.
Now as our science holigans at Mythbusters occasionally say, Confirmed!!
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From: Earth
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WHY ?
Maybe:
-to get better consideration
-to get better roster which means better quality of life and less fatigue
-to get better training
-to get better consideration
-to be closer to friends and family
-to enjoy a better environment
-you name it...
Money is not everything in life
Maybe:
-to get better consideration
-to get better roster which means better quality of life and less fatigue
-to get better training
-to get better consideration
-to be closer to friends and family
-to enjoy a better environment
-you name it...
Money is not everything in life