Flight deck positions at FlyDubai Master Thread - Merged
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It is not, do your homework. Pilots don’t earn bonuses per year. They have a variable income from flight pay and allowances. It will not be used to get mortgages or loans. So you have been ill informed. Your mate got a villa in the pandemic for 140k a year. Well that price is way off . As I said 155 is given. And 140 paid. Then you have 2200-2700 Aed bill for DEWA each month alone on a villa.155-140 or 155-180 with bills is a huge saving to some on this forum. Ask past or present pilots.
It is not, do your homework. Pilots don’t earn bonuses per year. They have a variable income from flight pay and allowances. It will not be used to get mortgages or loans. So you have been ill informed. Your mate got a villa in the pandemic for 140k a year. Well that price is way off . As I said 155 is given. And 140 paid. Then you have 2200-2700 Aed bill for DEWA each month alone on a villa.155-140 or 155-180 with bills is a huge saving to some on this forum. Ask past or present pilots.
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How many past pilots or present agree with you? Lots of wannabe joiners or people with friends that rent villas that get bonuses that do not work in aviation. The friends I made there are happier they left. They went back to the USA Europe and Indian. They have control over their lives with bidding, trip trades, swaps and no night flights. They earn less money the Fz,have less bills and more money in their pocket at the end of the month. Free healthcare in some countries. Along with happiness
How many past pilots or present agree with you? Lots of wannabe joiners or people with friends that rent villas that get bonuses that do not work in aviation. The friends I made there are happier they left. They went back to the USA Europe and Indian. They have control over their lives with bidding, trip trades, swaps and no night flights. They earn less money the Fz,have less bills and more money in their pocket at the end of the month. Free healthcare in some countries. Along with happiness
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I did my homework. I have friends that have been living in Dubai for 20 years and love it. I have friends that went to Dubai and lasted 6 months and hated it. I have a friend who lives in AUH. Loves it. She lived on Kensington High street in London, one of the nicest places to live in London but she hated London life.
Anyway I messaged my mate and he said to get a loan for a car he just had to provide 6 month of pay slips. 3 months he had no bonus because of the pandemic but they took the average.
Yes he did get a deal in the pandemic but they are planning to move to a 3 bed in a few months and will save around 30-40k.
You are clutching at straws saying people that leave Dubai/FZ etc are happier. People as a whole will say they are glad they left blah blah. That’s human nature. Very few say oh I wish I stayed at blah blah. Loads of Jet2 guys I met came from FZ and none actually said they hated it. They saved up enough to buy a property back here in UK and wanted to be back close to family.
No one will be 100% happy. I know a guy that left BA 787 position and went back to EK. He hated BA. Some would say that’s mad. My best mate isn’t interested in any jet job. All he wants to do is fly TP even though the pay as a captain is half what an FO and FZ gets in a year. Maybe less actually (£50k? 250k AED a year). The point is he is happy.
Just accept you hated FZ/Dubai etc but others love it. In fact maybe flying is not for you at all.
Anyway I messaged my mate and he said to get a loan for a car he just had to provide 6 month of pay slips. 3 months he had no bonus because of the pandemic but they took the average.
Yes he did get a deal in the pandemic but they are planning to move to a 3 bed in a few months and will save around 30-40k.
You are clutching at straws saying people that leave Dubai/FZ etc are happier. People as a whole will say they are glad they left blah blah. That’s human nature. Very few say oh I wish I stayed at blah blah. Loads of Jet2 guys I met came from FZ and none actually said they hated it. They saved up enough to buy a property back here in UK and wanted to be back close to family.
No one will be 100% happy. I know a guy that left BA 787 position and went back to EK. He hated BA. Some would say that’s mad. My best mate isn’t interested in any jet job. All he wants to do is fly TP even though the pay as a captain is half what an FO and FZ gets in a year. Maybe less actually (£50k? 250k AED a year). The point is he is happy.
Just accept you hated FZ/Dubai etc but others love it. In fact maybe flying is not for you at all.
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I agree with him.... there's no perfect company in this world but it's about finding a balance that works for you.
For me, I'm extremely curious who you know that LEFT FZ since we lost our bidding and trip trades/swaps and found work elsewhere where they're happy? We lost these benefits when covid hit and I'd be extremely surprised to find they left in the middle of a pandemic and found better conditions elsewhere...
Free healthcare to me doesn't mean anything. The private healthcare i receive from FZ is better then the free healthcare I received back at home.
To be completely honest if I was back at home during this pandemic I would have been 10x more screwed then the situation i was in the past year with FZ. Did I get Rotational Leave: Yes. Did it suck: Yes. Do I still have a job that paid my bills: Yes.
Happiness is subjective to many different elements. Like I said grass isn't greener it's just a different type of grass.
I agree with him.... there's no perfect company in this world but it's about finding a balance that works for you.
For me, I'm extremely curious who you know that LEFT FZ since we lost our bidding and trip trades/swaps and found work elsewhere where they're happy? We lost these benefits when covid hit and I'd be extremely surprised to find they left in the middle of a pandemic and found better conditions elsewhere...
Free healthcare to me doesn't mean anything. The private healthcare i receive from FZ is better then the free healthcare I received back at home.
To be completely honest if I was back at home during this pandemic I would have been 10x more screwed then the situation i was in the past year with FZ. Did I get Rotational Leave: Yes. Did it suck: Yes. Do I still have a job that paid my bills: Yes.
Happiness is subjective to many different elements. Like I said grass isn't greener it's just a different type of grass.
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Hi all,
For those people saying money is enough or not atFlyDubai... It depends on everyone needs. I have read someone who says that for a single pilot without family is enough, other with family is ok... someone says that it is enough with or without family,.... it is subjective, and at the end money is not the most important thing. We are suppose to be passional workers, professional pilots. Not "money seekers". I mean sometimes (most of the time) money is not the most important thing. I am a former Captain in a Latin America airline (Expat!) earning about 7000 - 8500 USD monthly, as a CAPTAIN. In flydubai is less than a FO do, but anyway my wife and I we was a happy family there.
We thought to go to Middle East.. maybe Qatar, Emirates, FlyDubai, even China, to make more money... but we was happy there (Happy wife, happy life!) and we decided not to move. I was in a great airline, perfect maintenance and great destinations and layovers.
Thanks of COVID I have a year and a half without flying, waiting for FlyDubai interview at DXB... Now I need to fly anywhere, just to be in the market again. Bad roster at FZ? Wow, a ROSTER!! Not enough money? WOW, MONEY. Night repetitive long flights? WOW, FLYING. And im applying as a FO because I would need to fly 150 more flight tome to apply as a Captain, but I don't mind. I have other options opens and the first to give me the OK, I would go there.
So, my point is that every individual has their needs. If flydubai pays me, would be the best company. Thats my point right now thanks to our friend COVID.
For those people saying money is enough or not atFlyDubai... It depends on everyone needs. I have read someone who says that for a single pilot without family is enough, other with family is ok... someone says that it is enough with or without family,.... it is subjective, and at the end money is not the most important thing. We are suppose to be passional workers, professional pilots. Not "money seekers". I mean sometimes (most of the time) money is not the most important thing. I am a former Captain in a Latin America airline (Expat!) earning about 7000 - 8500 USD monthly, as a CAPTAIN. In flydubai is less than a FO do, but anyway my wife and I we was a happy family there.
We thought to go to Middle East.. maybe Qatar, Emirates, FlyDubai, even China, to make more money... but we was happy there (Happy wife, happy life!) and we decided not to move. I was in a great airline, perfect maintenance and great destinations and layovers.
Thanks of COVID I have a year and a half without flying, waiting for FlyDubai interview at DXB... Now I need to fly anywhere, just to be in the market again. Bad roster at FZ? Wow, a ROSTER!! Not enough money? WOW, MONEY. Night repetitive long flights? WOW, FLYING. And im applying as a FO because I would need to fly 150 more flight tome to apply as a Captain, but I don't mind. I have other options opens and the first to give me the OK, I would go there.
So, my point is that every individual has their needs. If flydubai pays me, would be the best company. Thats my point right now thanks to our friend COVID.
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As of right now I believe we are trying to fill as FO and upgrade our own pilots and if we can't keep up or provide enough upgrades we would have to resort to TRDEC. The bidding system as of right now is not available.
For me personally I am quite disappointed because even though I am not the most senior I enjoyed flying in the evenings/nights, HATE doing morning flights, LOVE layovers but now cannot bid for any of this. I use to get about 60% of my roster as bid requests.
I know some of my coworkers HATE layovers, LOVE mornings and HATE evenings. The complete opposite from me. They cant bid for what they want either OR swap with me which would both make us happier.
We are all hopeful it gets back to a balanced system in the future!
For me personally I am quite disappointed because even though I am not the most senior I enjoyed flying in the evenings/nights, HATE doing morning flights, LOVE layovers but now cannot bid for any of this. I use to get about 60% of my roster as bid requests.
I know some of my coworkers HATE layovers, LOVE mornings and HATE evenings. The complete opposite from me. They cant bid for what they want either OR swap with me which would both make us happier.
We are all hopeful it gets back to a balanced system in the future!
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I understand but I honestly hope they will also call NTR. The advertisement was for both.
Obviously is what I hope but I also understand that internal upgrades have to have priority.
I understand but I honestly hope they will also call NTR. The advertisement was for both.
Obviously is what I hope but I also understand that internal upgrades have to have priority.
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I didn’t even know FZ operated a bid system before. I worked for a largish airline (800 pilots) before, our bid system never worked. Once in 4 years I managed to swap. Ha ha ha. Never done night flying but earlies or lates yes. I prefer earlies but only because I had a 1 hr commute so no traffic to deal with. Anyway roster sounds ok to me. Anything more than 7/8 days off a month and no 6 sector days would be a bonus.Do you have to swap aircraft during a shift at all? Also is all training in Dubai?
I applied as NTR. Not expecting anything if I’m honest. 1000s of TR 737 guys/gals around but never know.
I applied as NTR. Not expecting anything if I’m honest. 1000s of TR 737 guys/gals around but never know.
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Anyone who applied for TR FO and was successful want to share their level of experience.
I applied with 1500 hours on type and received a thanks but no thanks email. Trying to figure out whether my application was not strong enough or simply not enough hours.
Thanks in advance.
I applied with 1500 hours on type and received a thanks but no thanks email. Trying to figure out whether my application was not strong enough or simply not enough hours.
Thanks in advance.
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Heard the company is trying to change annual leave. Bidding twice a year which forces people into taking 21 days in the first 6 months. Highly unlikely anyone will get what they want that have been there under 10 years. Company are so short of crew they are offering to buy back annual leave for December. It looks like no one will get a proper holiday in 2022. No bidding for flights,no swaps and now no proper annual leave. The rosters will be legal 8 days off a month from December. All of this while there is crew still on forced unpaid leave.
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Yes they stopped playing with the leave as they were unable to crew the schedule the first 6 months. I retracted that leave statement. So they have decided to push the problem down the road. What else is untrue ? It will be interesting to see how transport jock will be selling this with 8 days off a month from December on. To the new joiners best of luck. Please keep everyone posted on here and also disclose the new contracts pay.
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You should have got something by now. Any regret letter? And how do you think you did on the online tests.
if you did ok and got no regret letter I feel you will get a call for sims very soon. All the best.
You should have got something by now. Any regret letter? And how do you think you did on the online tests.
if you did ok and got no regret letter I feel you will get a call for sims very soon. All the best.
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i was waiting for an answer the whole week since people in this forum already got an answer, positive or negative…
At the moment, still no answer at all.
The online test wasn’t the best ones I ever did but there wasn’t a disaster either…
I ll keep you guys updated when the call me (if they do)…
Good luck to all
At the moment, still no answer at all.
The online test wasn’t the best ones I ever did but there wasn’t a disaster either…
I ll keep you guys updated when the call me (if they do)…
Good luck to all
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As long as the online tests weren’t a total loss, it should be ok. The online tests are very often a data gathering exercise, with the same being repeated in real time later on. So don’t bother too much. However they take psychometrics quite seriously I hear.