Old King Coal

Mutt: Yes indeed (wherein we've being doing TIBA for years)... that said, one does have to wonder at ones legal position, i.e. when one is issued with a "Radar Service Terminated, continue with TIBA procedures" whilst one is ostensibly operating in accordance with an IFR flight plan (with all the safety elements that IFR entails), and yet one can certainly imagine that, at a subsequent Board of Enquiry, the reason for the 'mid-air collision' would be laid firmly and squarely upon "...the crews failure to maintain adequate separation", or some such phrase.

The bottom line is that, in this day & age, there should be no excuse for operating a Public Transport flight, in a multi-million dollar jet aircraft, packed full of passengers & crew, without the benefit of radar coverage and the constraints of IFR, and especially so in a country supposedly as wealthy as Saudi Arabia !

mutt

Is it any different to using uncontrolled airports in the USA? We are keen to ensure that operators understand TIBA, as in the past it was common for leased airlines to ignore the process completely. Quite disturbing to find someone has decided to takeoff on a reciprocal runway without talking to anyone

mutt

busykill

Does anyone else have an assessment with ctc 4th feb? Type rated.

atlas12

At least 1,000 hours on modern (EFIS), multi-crew, multi-engine aircraft over 10 tonnes operating weight (preference will be given to those with PIC time).

Does that include turboprop time? Last time I checked flydubai was jet time only.

Otto Throttle

Given the numbers of TP pilots who have joined the company in the last year, I would say 'yes'.

Vortac1

Hello ties... :/

8028410q

My nine year old son could have drawn a better uniform.. What's with gold braid/stripes on the shoulders AND the cuffs of the jackets? Back to the drawing board I'm afraid, or give me an EK uniform with a different tie and cap badge (if we must have a cap).

Old King Coal

Oh gawd... please not hats and / or ties! ... and certain aspects of the engineers uniform will have them looking like extras from a 'Village People' video, which will certainly be popular with the boys on the ramp, not!... YMCA anybody?!

olster

Very funny OKC - as usual your wry observation and commentary ref fz are spot on. Glad that you have recovered from your unfortunate bout of Stockholm Syndrome . Carry on the good work.

cheers

plasticmerc

Hard hats for engineers? friggen hilarious

High Energy

Some were beyond bad. I 'prefer' the 2nd option 'Structuring Timelines'. But why get rid of the current light blue/orange tones the cc has. That looks very fresh and stylish. Option 1 and 3 are a definate no-no! Suddenly it's all so cold and dull.

If anyone at Triburg is reading this; NO hat and clipon tie only!!! It's not the 80's anymore...

what-to-do

Not really ar*ed about any new uniform to be honest, can it be any worse than our taxi driver outfit that we currently have?

More importantly, where's the rosters, AGAIN?

Anyone know what the rush was to get PBS up and running before ironing out any software issues? Seems the scheduling department and the pilots would have both benefitted from a little more time prior to going live.

FlyingTinCans

I'm happy to see Hats & Ties on the way (clip on ties though please!). The flight deck uniform needs smarting up especially as we operate in a part of the world where image is everything.

Does anyone know the reasoning (if any) why we use PBS so close to roster release day? With clearly so many issues still to iron out why don't we PBS towards the beginning of the month and then rostering have more time to correct any issues?

High Energy

I think they leave PBS so close to the roster publication date because commercial's in the way. You know what they are like.

dubaigong

If it was commercial only , how can we explain that the cabin crew have their roster already since a few days...

Old King Coal

In the 9 day period between when I put my bid into PBS versus how it looks right now, this is what I can see if I compare the two data sets of the (then vs now) flying program:

R = Removed / A = Added

R - 01-Feb: 1(DOH+DOH) / 7831(JED)
R - 02-Feb: 1(DOH+DOH) / 7831(JED)
R - 03-Feb: 7831(JED)
R - 04-Feb: 707(GYD) / 7831(JED)
R - 06-Feb: 7831(JED) / 8053(KWI) / 8933(KZN)
R - 07-Feb: 7831(JED)
R - 08-Feb: 7831(JED)
R - 09-Feb: 7831(JED)
R - 10-Feb: 933(KZN) / 975(VOG) / 977(MRV) / 7831(JED)
R - 11-Feb: 707(GYD) / 903(KUF) / 7831(JED)
R - 13-Feb: 981(ROV) / 7831(JED) / 8053(KWI)
A - 13-Feb: 575(KTM)
R - 14-Feb: 939(UFA) / 983(KRR) / 7831(JED)
A - 14-Feb: 7001(JED)
R - 15-Feb: 611(JUB) / 7831(JED)
A - 15-Feb: 7003(JED)
R - 16-Feb: 7831(JED)
R - 17-Feb: 933(KZN) / 975(VOG) / 977(MRV)
R - 18-Feb: 707(GYD) / 903(KUF) / 4357(KDH) / 7831(JED)
A - 18-Feb: 141(AMM) / 7007(JED)
R - 19-Feb: 611(JUB)
A - 19-Feb: 7009(JED)
R - 20-Feb: 981(ROV) / 4357(KDH) / 7831(JED)
A - 20-Feb: 141(AMM)
R - 21-Feb: 939(UFA) / 983(KRR) / 7831(JED)
A - 21-Feb: 7011(JED)
R - 22-Feb: 611(JUB) / 4357(KDH) / 7831(JED)
A - 22-Feb: 141(AMM) / 7013(JED)
R - 23-Feb: 7831(JED)
R - 24-Feb: 7831(JED)
A - 24-Feb: 7015(JED)
R - 25-Feb: 707(GYD) / 903(KUF) / 7831(JED)
A - 25-Feb: 141(AMM) / 7017(JED)
A - 26-Feb: 7019(JED)
R - 27-Feb: 4357(KDH) / 7831(JED)
A - 27-Feb: 141(AMM)
R - 28-Feb: 633(KRT) / 7831(JED)
A - 28-Feb: 7021(JED)

By my maths, that’s 55 flights removed versus 16 flights added, sometime during the last 9 days, and thus there might well indeed be something in the argument that the Commercial Dept are indeed changing the flying program, right up to the last minute, though quite how much that impacts the Rostering is a mute point, though it can't help.

The 'net' result is a decrease of 39 flights for the month of February; BUT, putting that into perspective, that's a reduction from a total of 2,228 flight duties (based upon the flying program of just over 1 week ago) down to 2,189 possible flight duties (using data from today's flying program) which crews might be assigned to.

High Energy

Wow, interesting, how did you make that list? Is it me or are most added flights to Jeddah! What's going on there next month...

Old King Coal

Wrt how did I make that list?... let's just say that in a previous life I was a Systems Software & Database guru and that there's not much I don't know when it comes to accessing data and then manipulating it to my own ends!

I think you'll find that some of those flights which have been added are merely a rescheduling for others, on that same day, that have been removed (i.e. they're to the same destination on that day, albeit with different flight number, and different time of departure).

jetstreem

I'm afraid that I can't agree with the people who actually want hats & ties. In the summer, the last thing you'll want is to be buttoned all the way up. And how many members of the public actually see us on a normal day?! Hats only make pilots look like chauffeurs or strippers. Sorry, but it's true. They're useful for that and putting keys in when you get home. And in the flight deck, I'm assuming you're going to put them in all of that storage that we don't have.

I wouldn't mind a different uniform, but other than the 'bowling shoes' we're given and the ridiculous 'bling wings' that are designed solely to catch on as many things as possible in the flight deck, it's not that bad. It's low maintenance at least.

Going on that presentation, someone with not a great deal of imagination has just copied the uniform from the likes of KLM and Emirates but just used FZ colouring pencils! The stripes on the shoulders of the jackets did make me laugh though!

Old King Coal

jetstreem: I totally agree!... albeit, wrt shoes, I actually like those 'winter' boots (the ones with the zips) that FZ provide.