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Deserthawk:
You have two options, first you will continue to pay the difference (absolutely not fair according to the new package) or change your contract. But be careful, do not sign yearly contract because at the end the landlord will ask how much he wants to renew it. You will only be protected by law if you sign two years or more contracts that can only be readjusted by 10%.
But this is not the point, the point is they hidden these conditions and just said that the housing was increased. And for sure people considered this housing allowance when withdrawing their resignation. Seems that somebody is cheating us again!
You have two options, first you will continue to pay the difference (absolutely not fair according to the new package) or change your contract. But be careful, do not sign yearly contract because at the end the landlord will ask how much he wants to renew it. You will only be protected by law if you sign two years or more contracts that can only be readjusted by 10%.
But this is not the point, the point is they hidden these conditions and just said that the housing was increased. And for sure people considered this housing allowance when withdrawing their resignation. Seems that somebody is cheating us again!
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Correct me if I am wrong: you can still leave GF accomodation, find another one that suits you, settle with a contract on your name and get up to 700 Bds plus, monthly, for your "new" accomodation. A little inconvenient I reckon, but better than staying in any accomodation you dislike, while paying money out of your pocket ! Isn't it ?
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i truly hope this is not the case as BN has prided himself on being "open" and honest which this is not. i find it odd since we have already recieved the first increase on housing. why would they not just continue with our contracts and pat upto the max allowed?????
also soft alt......please i live in a place for 2,3,4,5,years and have to move because of some crap like this???? Also good luck finding a villa that is similar living conditions at the same price. same place i moved into 3 years ago is now 225 per month more.
And to to get to far ahead. Al where did you get this info?? we could be getting all hot and bothered over nothing
also soft alt......please i live in a place for 2,3,4,5,years and have to move because of some crap like this???? Also good luck finding a villa that is similar living conditions at the same price. same place i moved into 3 years ago is now 225 per month more.
And to to get to far ahead. Al where did you get this info?? we could be getting all hot and bothered over nothing
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I don't know if this information is correct or not but I know a fact that if we decide to make the contract ourselves and we what's introduced in the package, eg. single FO 550 and Married FO 650; the utility allowance and the taxes are not paid in to the salary it's only paid if Gulfair signs the contract for us. So either case we lose if this information is correct.
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My guess...and this is a guess.....is that if you are entitled to 650BD (married) you will get that OR if your base rent is above this amount you will pay the difference.
All will get the utilities paid to their payslip and this complicated mess with the taxes will disappear. You get 650 regardless of how you structure the contract.
If you are currently paying LESS than 650 you will be credited the difference on your pay.
That would make sense anyways and, at the same time, rid housing of their silly formulas regarding taxes and furnished or not etc.
All will get the utilities paid to their payslip and this complicated mess with the taxes will disappear. You get 650 regardless of how you structure the contract.
If you are currently paying LESS than 650 you will be credited the difference on your pay.
That would make sense anyways and, at the same time, rid housing of their silly formulas regarding taxes and furnished or not etc.
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Guys, the better way to sort it out is to ask Housing dept., VPFO and/or VPHR and demand an explanation. If we sign a contract it must be followed. It seems that internal instruction has more power than our contract or what PCE, VPFO says about. What’s next?
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Its an issue to be sorted and I'm sure it will...maybe a bit confused right now...maybe better in the long run to just go private with your lease anyway...think personally GF should get out of the lease business...less opportunity for "mistakes"
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Agree with IB57!!! GF gets out of the property leasing business and, obviously, Housing Dept. can be shut down. Half floor will be available in HDQ, money will be saved from the pay of all those up there (including that elderly british lady "secretary" that does nothing but eating her cereal and having her tea all day long) and, last but not least, less reports will be sent to Ethics Point...
Shall we present this plan to BN?
Safe Flights!
JJ
Shall we present this plan to BN?
Safe Flights!
JJ
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The best option is to take the housing money and look for your own accomodation. With the new allowance am sure you can get something pretty decent if you look around. (herein lies the problem since a lot of the guys hate looking around ) If the rent is becoming too steep am sure you can get invade a villa and share with a couple of guys like some guys do in QR due to the high rentals in Doh.
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The problem is that, believe it or not, GF Housing actually does have some value!!!! Their contracts are well written and lock the rent for two years - which is why some landlords will not deal with them anymore.
If you want to leave during that time just inform GF and off you go - much more difficult if you sign a lease yourself.
If they simplified it so that everyone got the 650/600 per month and got rid of the fancy calculation regarding taxes etc they could save half the staff.
Finally, if GF is not going to build housing then they should use their size and influence, negotiate with one or two big landlords and rent in bulk at good rates. Pilots could then just contact the landlords agency, choose a house and off they'd go.
The fact is 650 gets you very little right now. My house was 640/month and the new tenants will be paying 850!!!!!!!! And it certainly isn't anything special. It is riduculous.
SO unless GF wants to keep increasing its housing allowance or it plans to let pilots pay out of pocket again they should begin getting creative and finding solutions.
If you want to leave during that time just inform GF and off you go - much more difficult if you sign a lease yourself.
If they simplified it so that everyone got the 650/600 per month and got rid of the fancy calculation regarding taxes etc they could save half the staff.
Finally, if GF is not going to build housing then they should use their size and influence, negotiate with one or two big landlords and rent in bulk at good rates. Pilots could then just contact the landlords agency, choose a house and off they'd go.
The fact is 650 gets you very little right now. My house was 640/month and the new tenants will be paying 850!!!!!!!! And it certainly isn't anything special. It is riduculous.
SO unless GF wants to keep increasing its housing allowance or it plans to let pilots pay out of pocket again they should begin getting creative and finding solutions.
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You can't stop the housing mafia for the time being. Too much money tied in to it... Where are all these training captain get their money from? see in what direction I am looking? yes theses brothers and the other ones too...
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............also if you see a nice compound/apartments and there are several guys who are interested then am sure the landlord usually will make a concescion and give a sizeable discount. But like l said before this involves looking around ............
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Getting your own accomodation is fine and Dandy Gentlemen, however there are is a catch, well a couple.
1. It has already been mentioned that the moment you cancel your GF contract ( only a 30 day notice required ) the Landlord turns around and throws you a curve ball by raising your rent to the tune of almost 100% (if you were on a very old lease contract). These landlords are begging for people who have rented from them based on old lease agreements to leave asap because they are restricted to raising rents by 10% a year, and its not cummulative (i.e. if you have been in accomodation for 5 yrs and he failed to raise the rent in the yester years, he can't some to you now and say i have decided to raise the rent 50%). so common sense dictates, the landlords will invite you for some chai and make nice with you as they orchestrate you to the bend over position, K-Y not included.
2. Some landlords will and can ask you for upto three months (maybe more) advance rent payment as deposit. Look into it deeply before you jump. Furthermore, the Diplomatic clause is also at their discretion, but usually not a hassle to include.
And yes I affirm the fact that the new 650 bd allowance only applies if you take the allowance and do the lease yourself. Inshort GF, doesn't want anything to do with your accomodation arrangements. (not like they were effective anyway to begin with.....)
What gives.........?
1. It has already been mentioned that the moment you cancel your GF contract ( only a 30 day notice required ) the Landlord turns around and throws you a curve ball by raising your rent to the tune of almost 100% (if you were on a very old lease contract). These landlords are begging for people who have rented from them based on old lease agreements to leave asap because they are restricted to raising rents by 10% a year, and its not cummulative (i.e. if you have been in accomodation for 5 yrs and he failed to raise the rent in the yester years, he can't some to you now and say i have decided to raise the rent 50%). so common sense dictates, the landlords will invite you for some chai and make nice with you as they orchestrate you to the bend over position, K-Y not included.
2. Some landlords will and can ask you for upto three months (maybe more) advance rent payment as deposit. Look into it deeply before you jump. Furthermore, the Diplomatic clause is also at their discretion, but usually not a hassle to include.
And yes I affirm the fact that the new 650 bd allowance only applies if you take the allowance and do the lease yourself. Inshort GF, doesn't want anything to do with your accomodation arrangements. (not like they were effective anyway to begin with.....)
What gives.........?
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The money that GF gives for accomodation will not get you 5 star accomodation at the current rentals in Bah. But if you spend enough time even driving from apartment to apartment in Juffair, Adliya, Muharaq etc you will find something very reasonable and comfortable. I took the money and now am not complaining. On the new package, sadly it effective from 1 Sept and not mid Aug as had been promised. The two weeks wages from mid Aug to end of Aug could have come in handy. Especially if u calculate that it includes half the rent then the new block pay etc it does work out to be a sizeable chunk of dough. But what the heck, Nov beckons............
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Sorted out!
According to the last letter from VPFO the housing allowance issue was resolved, everything back to normal. Thanks to all of us that called or went to GF to ask for a solution and above all thanks for some management's individuals that worked hard to sort it out.
I do believe that it happened "after some intense discussions with the concerned parties" likely because some workers remain uncommitted to the project.
Together we did it!
I do believe that it happened "after some intense discussions with the concerned parties" likely because some workers remain uncommitted to the project.
Together we did it!
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Guys, with this new package we all can afford a nice 3 bedroom apartment in amwaj island. Prices ranges from 85000 to 115000 BD. Downpayment now around 10% and monthly installment for 15 years around 750 BD a month. Guess we won't have it easier than this. Call your bank advisor and get the loans dudes and make good use of your housing allowance.
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For those who want to stay in GF for a couple of years this would be a very good option. Browsed through some of the apartments the other day and must say it beats the hell out of living in Juffair and it's very close to the airport. Sadly like all others being careful, cautious l hesitated when they where first sold and have wasted loads in rental money to greedy landlords............ So if you plan to stay for a while then my 200fils of thought is buy.
and it's very close to the airport. Sadly like all others being careful, cautious l hesitated when they where first sold and have wasted loads in rental money to greedy landlords............ So if you plan to stay for a while then my 200fils of thought is buy.
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Prices have increased dramatically since the last post of this thread. This includes rent. I hope there's another housing increases because the amount now gets you diddly squat!