Qatar Airways - cadet program - SO

[Vne98]

Qatar & Cadet program?

Anyone hear of any news about Qatar hiring SO's through a cadet program? If so where can I get more info about the application process?

[Left Wing]

The only catch is age below 29yrs.

[Vne98]

Hey studi,

I tried starting a thread about this earlier as well. Any idea how the application process is gonna be? Where do we send our CV's and info?

The ad in flight international didnt give out too much info I was just wondering if you knew anything more about it?

Regards.

[Auria Wara]

hey Guys. 2nsd officer thing is okay. Personally, I would go for a a 737 NG or A 320 F/O rating.There are plenty of low cost airlines out there.

I am not being sarcastic and rubishing 2nd officer programs. I am just talking from experience.

I am a wide body capt. now. I have flown with guys who bought themselves a 737 FO rating when people said it was a waste of time. Those same guys are Capts.(or soon to be Capts) with respectible outfits like EK. They took a risk and now it has payed of.

In other words. If you get plenty of take offs and landings in either of those airplanes; the world is your oyster.(Well , "duhh!!!.... I knew that " you might say). Just putting my 2 cents worth in anyway.

All the best.

AW

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vne

The ad gives both e-mail and surface mail addresses for your CV

[email protected]

or

Hr Dept
Qatar Airways
PO Box 22550
Doha
Qatar

Fax [phone]

All I will add is on the housing front, QR3500 allowance doesn't get you much in Doha unless you share.

I have left the company so sorry cant give you anything more juicy on the actual scheme, a lot may have changed since I was around when it was being discussed.

Good luck with whatever you choose

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studi

To the best of my memory, it was to be the latter, with F/O status and conditions when productive on line.......but please do not quote me.

Thought someone in the know may have helped you guys out by now, but it all seems to have gone very quiet here on anything to do with QR.

Good luck to you mate



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[Vne98]

Thanks for the info Bored.

Is there a cut off date for this program (it doesn't mention anything in the ad)? Or are the doors gonna close once they have what they are looking for?


Pays = alright (compared to instructing/bush work)
Time = 5 years of bond vs. Instructing for 3 years...

I know I am a fresh pilot so my experience is fairly limited but can someone tell me where the bad deal is here?

[sony]

I wonder how many they are planning to take, and what the actual competitive minimums are going to be? High, or low.

[ODGUY]

How does QR look upon Canadian licences? Commercial / Multi-IFR.

[Left Wing]

CX has been it doing for years now. The real TT at CX is about 3000+ plus some turbine time.
Sould be similar to this at QR as well, dont really think they will put a fresh guy with 250 CPL on a A320 ??

[Global Nomad]

They will put any legal pilot, on any aircraft, as cheaply as possible.

Many airlines have 250hrs pilots flying much bigger aircraft than an A320.

Once it's cheaper, they'll never make it expensive for themselves.

Vne 98

Apply for the job and tell us what you think of the deal in 3 years time.

[Lil' Pilot]

Once your a F/O, the deal seems pretty good to me. Salary is ok, so that ain't a problem. I don't know enough of QR to judge how it is to work for them. The only thing is...how long do you stay S/O? Because the earnings of a S/O could be better of course. But hey, at least it's a start And so what if a c/a makes more than you. I don't care. If a person can manage whit this salary, it's ok for him. What other people earn don't matter. That's the way I think of it.

Ciao

[Dixons Cider]

Hang on here people, you seem to be overlooking a small fact - assuming the original post was accurate...

...5 year bond AND a salary deuction for 5 years to the tune of 108 000 QAR to cover the cost of training!!!

You would have to mad to consider this rubbish.

And Left Wing, CX have NOT "been doing this years".

Wake up kids.

Dixon has spoken.

[ODGUY]

Madder than working the ramp in -40C for over a year to get a chance to fly right seat on a caravan? or madder than instructing for a few years making a few hundred bucks a month?

[Asian Lancer]

Reading between the lines. QR have no use for S/O s unlike Cathay. Therefore my assumption would be that they will get you into the right seat as soon as possible where you can be productive.

The salary as an FO seems on the face of it pretty good considering your experience. You are effectivly paying for your own training over 5 years but in return you get hours and experience and a resonable salary.

My memory is not that bad that I cannot remember being in your position. If I were you I would go for it if you are young enough. Spend all your free money have lots of fun with some of the most gorgeous hosties flying and after 5 yrs FO leave and get a proper job.

Good luck!!

Oddie..no probs with the Canadian Licence

[rwelch]

How about with a FAA license?

[LONG_TAF]

If I were you I would go for it if you are young enough. Spend all your free money have lots of fun with some of the most gorgeous hosties flying and after 5 yrs FO leave and get a proper job.

All of you lowtimers should apply! The ones who try to convince you not to apply would probably apply in a second if they were at your situation

Have fun

L_T

[Foxtrot_Lima_Mike]

And would someone know if there's a closing date for the S/O applications or is this an on-going thing.

Regards,
FLM.

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Global

Please do not think for one minute that I disagree with a word you say here, you post well and put your views/opinion very well, just as it should be. I never recall seeing such a well balanced thread on any QR related topic so far.

Fact is, even in good old Europe, low time and very keen Pilot assets are having to pay for what they get if it leads to a job. Even high time rated guys have to pay certain airlines to look at CV's........................................

I am no fan of QR/Qatar and that is no secret, however, one thing that cannot be taken away from QR here is the fact they are prepared to pay a Cadet whilst under training.

There are 'First World' Airlines taking cash up front for Type Ratings, after self funded Jet Handling Assesments with third party involvement. It just seems to be the way of the World now, Wannabes standing up united against it just isn't going to make it go away.

If there are keen types who want to go for it, so be it. I would say we all learn by our mistakes, but my views are tarnished by my own (very short) experience out there, along with my own views/experiences of QR.

Nice to see you trying to help these guys decide, only they can decide if it is a good deal, if it pays enough to pay the loans back home, at least you are contributing, just wish someone at QR would answer this obvious interest in their ad.

The one thing I could never work out about the whole deal.....

QR Recruit NTR P1 and P2 all fleets.
QR bond said NTR Pilots.
QR has failed said pilots after ground school, and not cared about the costs incurred.
QR has an 'Open cheque book' ask Airbus

Why deduct training costs from salary? is bonding not enough?

My guess is 'Cadet Pilots' may just stay for five years, if only they were not paying back costs to be incurred anyway.

2p worth I had to get off my chest, sorry.


Choose well guys, enjoy and above all, FLY SAFE



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[Vne98]

Any Canadian Expats out there explain what the equivalent "Frozen ATPL" is in the Middle East? Does the IATRA qualify or are we out of luck if we don't have the hours to write the ATPL?

I have been reading Canadian forums and it sounds like us low time Canucks are out of luck