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QR 515, well that's an individual choice. Its ARMY style man but clearly providing the required protection from the arbitrary rent hikes. 10000 is maybe enough for now to rent a flat or if very lucky a villa (unfurnished AL WAKRA) but tomorrow the same thing will be 15000. Don't forget the law 10% is only valid till the end of 2007. To be fair I believe the prices might stabilize but they wont drop significantly cause tomorrow there´ll be another new ambitious project causing shortage again. Someone served in the army will be glad to be back to the old core. I don't mind actually as long as it´s nice and clean place. Welcome to 5 star MARINE CORE.
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housing options
Do u know if it is possible to step from one option to the other one on the way, or when you have decided for one option there is no way back ?
How are the house/appartament prvided by QR ? Which Qatar area ?
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How are the house/appartament prvided by QR ? Which Qatar area ?
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I've been watching this thread for a while now and finally MaxT here has hit on it! There's nothing in writing so, for the moment, there's NOTHING! I think it was knotloud who spotted the management w*nkers posting here in a vain attempt to get us all to like what is still just a PROPOSAL from AAB.
IF, it comes about, it is a miserable increase which will do nothing to help this company expand into the future. The cries from our management posters here to 'like or leave' will become a reality. It's a pilot's market at the moment for those with mobile passports.
You may all be interested to know that the ground staff, "granted" a pay increase and housing increase, were emailed not long after the announcement and told that the rent increase was not to be 'assumed'. All staff would be notified individually, in due course, as to what their respective rental assistance would be.
Both the rental assistance and travel allowance for pilots will disappear in due course as we are all forced into company accommodation. So the company gives and the company takes away.
It would have been a REAL pay increase if the rental money had gone towards salary increase and flight pay had been done away with so that all of us were on level pegging.
And let's not forget; there's still no sick leave, real LoL, retirement benefits and what about pilots with over 5 year's service?
Another opportunity to make this a good airline has gone begging. Pity.
GB
IF, it comes about, it is a miserable increase which will do nothing to help this company expand into the future. The cries from our management posters here to 'like or leave' will become a reality. It's a pilot's market at the moment for those with mobile passports.
You may all be interested to know that the ground staff, "granted" a pay increase and housing increase, were emailed not long after the announcement and told that the rent increase was not to be 'assumed'. All staff would be notified individually, in due course, as to what their respective rental assistance would be.
Both the rental assistance and travel allowance for pilots will disappear in due course as we are all forced into company accommodation. So the company gives and the company takes away.
It would have been a REAL pay increase if the rental money had gone towards salary increase and flight pay had been done away with so that all of us were on level pegging.
And let's not forget; there's still no sick leave, real LoL, retirement benefits and what about pilots with over 5 year's service?
Another opportunity to make this a good airline has gone begging. Pity.
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Fellas bad bad bad news. Fully furnished apartments are excluded from the lease law and subject to the civil law therefore there's no limit in rent increase. Land lord can increase unlimited. 
All studied and confirmed by the lawyers. I think company accommodation or unfurnished in this situation is the best solution.
New joiners should only go for unfurnished although even that isn't gonna help if the rental prices aren't to drop.
All studied and confirmed by the lawyers. I think company accommodation or unfurnished in this situation is the best solution. New joiners should only go for unfurnished although even that isn't gonna help if the rental prices aren't to drop.
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listen oryxbollock and few other losers,
You all dont even have balls to stand up in a meeting and say this is not a good offer. What a bunch of hypocrites and please i am happy to be management w*nker atleast i am not a hypocrite like all of you.
And please with no delay just leave the airline since we all are tired of hearing that people will leave and the future of this airline is doomed.
You all dont even have balls to stand up in a meeting and say this is not a good offer. What a bunch of hypocrites and please i am happy to be management w*nker atleast i am not a hypocrite like all of you.
And please with no delay just leave the airline since we all are tired of hearing that people will leave and the future of this airline is doomed.
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A330 300......How is the honeymoon period treating you my friend?
Hope you are enjoying it because before you will know it wil be over and it seems to me you might be in for a rude awakening!
Oryxbollocks has been here much longer than you have and maybe his view on things is a bit too pessimistic, certain points he is touching are very very true!
I can see that you are happy with wath they gave you ( ever heard of the dangling carrott theory?) but still you should realise that some very serious points are not being adressed at this stage!
I just hope you will never brake a leg while flying here because, and I hope you realise this, you will barely see any money during your revalidation!
But hey, maybe you are one of the lucky ones who has a bank account full of money and who censequently does not care about the money QR gives you. That would explain certainly your blunt denial and apathy towards the fact that there is no providend fund either!
Listen mate....the new package was an improvement but all some people are saying here is that the company, once more, missed an opprtunity to be the best in the region!
By the way, did you know that with the new package the overtime pay was raised from 780 to 840 hours per year! Nobody mentioned this during the meeting but for most of us, this means at least 15000QR less this year!
As told.....You win some-you loose some.....5* policies my friend!
A330 300......How is the honeymoon period treating you my friend?
Hope you are enjoying it because before you will know it wil be over and it seems to me you might be in for a rude awakening!
Oryxbollocks has been here much longer than you have and maybe his view on things is a bit too pessimistic, certain points he is touching are very very true!
I can see that you are happy with wath they gave you ( ever heard of the dangling carrott theory?) but still you should realise that some very serious points are not being adressed at this stage!
I just hope you will never brake a leg while flying here because, and I hope you realise this, you will barely see any money during your revalidation!
But hey, maybe you are one of the lucky ones who has a bank account full of money and who censequently does not care about the money QR gives you. That would explain certainly your blunt denial and apathy towards the fact that there is no providend fund either!
Listen mate....the new package was an improvement but all some people are saying here is that the company, once more, missed an opprtunity to be the best in the region!
By the way, did you know that with the new package the overtime pay was raised from 780 to 840 hours per year! Nobody mentioned this during the meeting but for most of us, this means at least 15000QR less this year!
As told.....You win some-you loose some.....5* policies my friend!
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First off I would like to say to Qatari515 that I am sorry I did not address the 22500 of the senior F/O. I just did a cut off, short cut, and stepped from a three year F/O directly to a first year SENIOR F/O pay assuming you would do the upgrade then. But you are right with the figure. Sorry.
A330_300,
I have to agree with Oryxbollocks and gnadirs when they write here with their words. You needed to have been here a year or two ago when a couple of pilots lost their medical for a broken leg/ankle and were hobbling around ops, pushing papers in a office to keep a salary coming in because their sick leave finished. Also it has been changed now but you would also loose your housing allowance allocation when you were out on longterm sick leave long time ago ( 3,4,5 years back)
Speaking of BALLS, did you stand up in the meeting and ask questions? Also were you at the last years meeting when a guy with balls got up and asked a question? This years meeting was much better I must say but I think if you have any questions here it is best to write or speak to the GMFO or Chief pilot. It has to be a good mood day to get certain things done here and propose some positive changes. If you place your cards on the table on a bad mood day, KHALLAS, you lose!
HM
A330_300,
I have to agree with Oryxbollocks and gnadirs when they write here with their words. You needed to have been here a year or two ago when a couple of pilots lost their medical for a broken leg/ankle and were hobbling around ops, pushing papers in a office to keep a salary coming in because their sick leave finished. Also it has been changed now but you would also loose your housing allowance allocation when you were out on longterm sick leave long time ago ( 3,4,5 years back)
Speaking of BALLS, did you stand up in the meeting and ask questions? Also were you at the last years meeting when a guy with balls got up and asked a question? This years meeting was much better I must say but I think if you have any questions here it is best to write or speak to the GMFO or Chief pilot. It has to be a good mood day to get certain things done here and propose some positive changes. If you place your cards on the table on a bad mood day, KHALLAS, you lose!
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A330-300 (New boy, like AEJ)
A rather surprising post, may I say. Your use of the word "losers" is bizarre, to say the least. Many of the correspondents participating in this thread are long term employees of the Company, whilst others have been in the region for more years than I care to remember.
Perhaps best to wait a few months and take a look at the situation from a fresh perspective.
Best regards,
A300-600 (Old git, like ABO)
A rather surprising post, may I say. Your use of the word "losers" is bizarre, to say the least. Many of the correspondents participating in this thread are long term employees of the Company, whilst others have been in the region for more years than I care to remember.
Perhaps best to wait a few months and take a look at the situation from a fresh perspective.
Best regards,
A300-600 (Old git, like ABO)
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help needed
for QR pilots :
can you please provide the circular which include the new full pay package with all of its detailes for me ,as a document my e-mail or pm for Capts. and F/Os
much appreciated
thanks
can you please provide the circular which include the new full pay package with all of its detailes for me ,as a document my e-mail or pm for Capts. and F/Os
much appreciated
thanks
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Kaepa, When you get that "DOCUMENT" let us all get a copy of it also please. Because as of yesterday when I checked my pigeon hole box there was no document but I will check tonight again when I go to work and see if it is there.
Also, A330_300 and anyone else interested, take a look at your paycheck at the end of this month and let me know what is the housing allowance and if there has been any changes to it. You will see that there is still the 900 capt and 700 f/O section there as they still have not figured out how the 50000, 25000, 40000 money will be distributed and how it will all work. I would not be surprised if the end of May paycheck it is still not sorted out.
HM
Also, A330_300 and anyone else interested, take a look at your paycheck at the end of this month and let me know what is the housing allowance and if there has been any changes to it. You will see that there is still the 900 capt and 700 f/O section there as they still have not figured out how the 50000, 25000, 40000 money will be distributed and how it will all work. I would not be surprised if the end of May paycheck it is still not sorted out.
HM
Well said A300Man!
But I doubt anything can or will change A330_300's perspective if, as he claims:
The w*nker part of that statement is totally confirmed, that's for sure, particularly with A330_300’s little ‘gem’ about:
on the ‘Emirates-new Paydeal For Locals Only’ thread.
Both of A330_300's statements merely demonstrate to others that he really isthe self-proclaimed w*nker he claims to be.
Perhaps 4HP, A330_300 could be invited to 'leave the building' for a little while to allow him to:
as A300Man seems to be suggesting, and as vbrules certainly DID suggest?
But I doubt anything can or will change A330_300's perspective if, as he claims:
i am happy to be management w*nker
....i am waiting when the company will throw all the thankliess white trash out from the country. And that day is not far. You people dont even have right to sat anyhting to an arab or their country.................
Both of A330_300's statements merely demonstrate to others that he really isthe self-proclaimed w*nker he claims to be.
Perhaps 4HP, A330_300 could be invited to 'leave the building' for a little while to allow him to:
take a look at the situation from a fresh perspective
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Damn and heckfire.... what's going on here?
After the A330_300 rant I sat down and had a beer, scratched my weary head a few times and thought hard. I actually decided he is probably right and it is time to move on.
No he's not right about the loser tag, I can go pretty much anywhere, whereas he is probably a lifer. But why wallow in the sty when I can live in the house with real people? The market is hot, three resumes now dispatched.....
Thanks for motivating my lazy ass A330 loser.....
After the A330_300 rant I sat down and had a beer, scratched my weary head a few times and thought hard. I actually decided he is probably right and it is time to move on.
No he's not right about the loser tag, I can go pretty much anywhere, whereas he is probably a lifer. But why wallow in the sty when I can live in the house with real people? The market is hot, three resumes now dispatched.....
Thanks for motivating my lazy ass A330 loser.....
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hehehehe
................... i love the replies...they are very entertaining....................
My honeymoon is nice and i am enjoying it.
LET ME ASK ALL THE LONG TERM EMPLOYEES OF THE COMPANY, I HAVE YET TO SEE A SINGLE GOOD POST FOR THE COMPANY............ I HAVE NOTICE THAT ALL OF YOU ARE ALWAYS COMPLAINING.....EITHER ITS MONEY, ROSTERING, HOUSING, CABIN CREW, MEALS ETC...There is not a single post which says the company has done a good job, atleast have a courtesy to do that. That is why you all are thankless people. I am not saying this airline is the perfect airline but atleast have a courage to admit the good things about the airline.
WHAT MAKE YOU STAY HERE.................IF NOT HAPPY LEAVE OTHERWISE STOP COMPLAING AND STAY.
Yes i agree i have alot and i am thankful to GOD for all this and i hope he gives me more but i will not go out and cry for it.If the revised salary is not in the May salary so what it will come later. Atleast you are getting it.What if there was no pay raise then what???????
I know the answer.... you would have been complaing and crying and still working for the same company and posting that all the pilots will leave this airline. Its not easy to leave the company when you have responsibilities and its also not easy to get the job. If it was very easy you would have left this place long time back. Ask people who did not have a job for a very long time, how does it feel?????
Its good to be Optimistic but its better to be Realistic
................... i love the replies...they are very entertaining....................My honeymoon is nice and i am enjoying it.
LET ME ASK ALL THE LONG TERM EMPLOYEES OF THE COMPANY, I HAVE YET TO SEE A SINGLE GOOD POST FOR THE COMPANY............ I HAVE NOTICE THAT ALL OF YOU ARE ALWAYS COMPLAINING.....EITHER ITS MONEY, ROSTERING, HOUSING, CABIN CREW, MEALS ETC...There is not a single post which says the company has done a good job, atleast have a courtesy to do that. That is why you all are thankless people. I am not saying this airline is the perfect airline but atleast have a courage to admit the good things about the airline.
WHAT MAKE YOU STAY HERE.................IF NOT HAPPY LEAVE OTHERWISE STOP COMPLAING AND STAY.
Yes i agree i have alot and i am thankful to GOD for all this and i hope he gives me more but i will not go out and cry for it.If the revised salary is not in the May salary so what it will come later. Atleast you are getting it.What if there was no pay raise then what???????
I know the answer.... you would have been complaing and crying and still working for the same company and posting that all the pilots will leave this airline. Its not easy to leave the company when you have responsibilities and its also not easy to get the job. If it was very easy you would have left this place long time back. Ask people who did not have a job for a very long time, how does it feel?????
Its good to be Optimistic but its better to be Realistic
max...............classic!
A330_300................
Like a lot of Gulf folks you most likely do
and are probably (and should be I suppose) thankful to GOD for that, as you say. But your posts seem to demonstrate that you don't have a lot of intelligence, tolerance or maturity. Certainly not in the quantities needed to be involved in management.
You're a fool! Grow up, get a life, and stop pissing-off others with your ridiculous and racist points of view.
A330_300................
Like a lot of Gulf folks you most likely do
have a lot
You're a fool! Grow up, get a life, and stop pissing-off others with your ridiculous and racist points of view.
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Hi to all
Pay rise or just rice. I do not know.
From my point of view, it is some where in between.
I cannot live with out the pay rise.
However, a yearly increment of around 3% is ridiculous and will only bring more rice on the table.
Fly safe and eat all the crew meal you can get
Spirit1
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Pay rise or just rice. I do not know.
From my point of view, it is some where in between.
I cannot live with out the pay rise.
However, a yearly increment of around 3% is ridiculous and will only bring more rice on the table.
Fly safe and eat all the crew meal you can get
Spirit1
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