QR Payrise or just rice...
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Please dont be a joke my friend. I stay in a 4 bedrooms villa, in a campound mid of doha, with a pool and tennis court, and I pay 12000 QR, so please dont say that the proposed housing allowance is not anough.
Be a man, and when the company does a good thing (I hope they do it !), have at least the courage to admit it.
Be a man, and when the company does a good thing (I hope they do it !), have at least the courage to admit it.
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Right, even if they increase the house allowance(FINALLY....)and th basic...
Generally speaking housing is still a big issue here in Doha.....
Itīs not normal that some people in order to save some money Have to share accomodation with others...
12000 qr for a villa...very nice but...what about next year...?
I think this rate is already part of history in Doha...
I personnaly think Q.A. should be one step Ahead, and not always one step behind regarding this problem...
Their reaction time is very slow,too slow even and is probably ONLY dictated by the rate of resignation during the last months, and certainly not to make us more happy.
Generally speaking housing is still a big issue here in Doha.....
Itīs not normal that some people in order to save some money Have to share accomodation with others...
12000 qr for a villa...very nice but...what about next year...?
I think this rate is already part of history in Doha...
I personnaly think Q.A. should be one step Ahead, and not always one step behind regarding this problem...
Their reaction time is very slow,too slow even and is probably ONLY dictated by the rate of resignation during the last months, and certainly not to make us more happy.
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NA,
I am not sure what you are on about with your coments of the 12,000 and you live in a villa with pool and tennis court? I was just saying that if a guy thinks that he is still paying 8,000 for his accomadation and he is getting 12,000 as an allowance and counting the QR4000 towards his income it is not good mathematics to count your housing allowance in your salary. Because the day we all get housing then that person will think he is getting a QR4000 decrease in salary. ........... hence "Smoke in Mirrors"
Some people are lucky ( like yourself) and still have this, one in a million low rent but for anyone who is a new joiner they will NOT find this sort of villa. I am sorry to tell you this but long gone are those days my friend and the going rate out there now is not going to get you a 4 (four) bedroom villa with a pool and tennis court for QR12,000....................
I am not sure what you are on about with your coments of the 12,000 and you live in a villa with pool and tennis court? I was just saying that if a guy thinks that he is still paying 8,000 for his accomadation and he is getting 12,000 as an allowance and counting the QR4000 towards his income it is not good mathematics to count your housing allowance in your salary. Because the day we all get housing then that person will think he is getting a QR4000 decrease in salary. ........... hence "Smoke in Mirrors"
Some people are lucky ( like yourself) and still have this, one in a million low rent but for anyone who is a new joiner they will NOT find this sort of villa. I am sorry to tell you this but long gone are those days my friend and the going rate out there now is not going to get you a 4 (four) bedroom villa with a pool and tennis court for QR12,000....................
your ignorant 
, people like you are a bane to QATAR
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Take a deep breath 787 before you pop a vein. First of all no need for the insults. Second, just what are the facts that I supposedly got wrong? I didn't mention any...
I have been in QR for many years and given the airline much more than it has given me. I definately ain't no 'bane' to Qatar.
Back on subject...I actually will be at the meeting tomorrow. Since I have decided to continue working here at least I want to hear what the future holds directly from the horse's mouth. I won't be staying for the dinner and will applaud only if there's reason to.
Regards
I have been in QR for many years and given the airline much more than it has given me. I definately ain't no 'bane' to Qatar.
Back on subject...I actually will be at the meeting tomorrow. Since I have decided to continue working here at least I want to hear what the future holds directly from the horse's mouth. I won't be staying for the dinner and will applaud only if there's reason to.
Regards
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No need to go to the meeting to known whatīs the future of the airline....!!
It will be the usual standard Q.A. propaganda.......!!If you go ones in your life, thatīs it,thatīs more than enough!
It will be the usual standard Q.A. propaganda.......!!If you go ones in your life, thatīs it,thatīs more than enough!
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What is the result?
mr.Goat Liner,
Do you mine to share to us what is the result of so called meeting?
No matter good or bad >>>>
Appreciate your soonest reply.
Brgds
Piper 606
Do you mine to share to us what is the result of so called meeting?
No matter good or bad >>>>
Appreciate your soonest reply.
Brgds
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Too much conjecture and supposition and irrelevance creeping into this thread now, chaps..........it (the thread) probably needs a rest until the "meeting" has actually happened.
Some of the newbie postings on this thread are "baffling" to say the least, and surprisingly inquisitive, for supposedly distant enquirers to be displaying so much interest.
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On an entirely seperate note and to bring in a much needed commercial break, I see the A346 chaps will be having a bumper month from today onwards, with the big long plane making at least one daily foray (according to www) into DXB from Doha.
The F pax won't (and don't) like it, given there's only 8 seats in that cabin, whereas some other QR planes on the same route operate with up to 32 seats in "F" class. A lot of downgrades in the offing.
Some of our respected "local" friends don't at all like the public humiliation of being downgraded (depsite the fact that the only real difference in QR F and J class ops on the route is the offering of Arabic Coffee and dates), due to the very limited F class cabin on the 346. I have witnessed a few bizarre potential riots and potential slappings at DXB check-in of late, depsite the fact that the 39 minutes hop to Doha in one of the most technically advanced aircraft in the world is not such a bad thing, no matter which cabin one sits. Does anyone actually need a flatbed for 39 minutes?????????
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Anyway, briefly back on topic, I wish all you professional drivers over in Doha the very best of luck when it comes to your big meeting. You all deserve not only a hearty pat on the back, but an injection of humanity from the employers who currently take you for granted. Y'all are doing a fine job, and those of us on the other side of the curtain at 41,000ft thank you. We appreciate it. Let's hope the Commercial Bank of Qatar has to commence a new print run to produce all the banknotes that you all deserve.
A300Man
Some of the newbie postings on this thread are "baffling" to say the least, and surprisingly inquisitive, for supposedly distant enquirers to be displaying so much interest.
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On an entirely seperate note and to bring in a much needed commercial break, I see the A346 chaps will be having a bumper month from today onwards, with the big long plane making at least one daily foray (according to www) into DXB from Doha.
The F pax won't (and don't) like it, given there's only 8 seats in that cabin, whereas some other QR planes on the same route operate with up to 32 seats in "F" class. A lot of downgrades in the offing.
Some of our respected "local" friends don't at all like the public humiliation of being downgraded (depsite the fact that the only real difference in QR F and J class ops on the route is the offering of Arabic Coffee and dates), due to the very limited F class cabin on the 346. I have witnessed a few bizarre potential riots and potential slappings at DXB check-in of late, depsite the fact that the 39 minutes hop to Doha in one of the most technically advanced aircraft in the world is not such a bad thing, no matter which cabin one sits. Does anyone actually need a flatbed for 39 minutes?????????
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Anyway, briefly back on topic, I wish all you professional drivers over in Doha the very best of luck when it comes to your big meeting. You all deserve not only a hearty pat on the back, but an injection of humanity from the employers who currently take you for granted. Y'all are doing a fine job, and those of us on the other side of the curtain at 41,000ft thank you. We appreciate it. Let's hope the Commercial Bank of Qatar has to commence a new print run to produce all the banknotes that you all deserve.
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Update on the QR pilots meeting.Meeting started at 7:15. AAB was supposed to arrive at 7 and he came at 7:15 which was not very late. Initially the GMFO did a slight briefing on safety related issues and then handed it over to the CEO. AAB did the complete briefing and started with appreciating the pilots and he was happy to see lot of pilots present there. The house was full and AAB was in a very good mood. He was very friendly and answered all questions politely and infact used words like its **** in other airlines.He did few jokes too. The salary increase is apparently not very much i would say but its not bad.
F/O Basic 18500 with every year approx 3% raise and Captain is 21000
F/O Housing Allowance is 10000, captain is 12000
transport Allowance is 1500 for both
Furniture Allowance is now a lump sum figure of 50000 upto 5 years service and if above then 25000
school fee is now 50,000 per annum upto 21 years of age.
No change in flying allowance even though they tried to fool us with showing a high figure but it was basically the same flying allowance i.e 90 riyals but now hours shown was 70 as they claim the average hours are 70.
AAB did accepted that there is a problem regarding housing and now they are providing villas to captain and F/O with apartment and depending on the size of the family F/O will be provided with big size apartments. AAB said they are building a 62 stories apartment and with all the facilities for qatar airways pilots.
Parking issue was discussed and he said very soon when dispatch will be shifted to the new airport the transport allowance will be finish and there will be company transport for pick and drop.
Few question were asked regarding allowances, housing and parking. the meeting was then followed by a group photo with AAB, he was joking there too and then a dinner. There was a live music band playing soft jazz music.
Overall the meeting was very nice. Apparently all the pilots were in an agressive mood before the meeting but they all came out happy and that because the CEO was in a good, this is my observation.
F/O Basic 18500 with every year approx 3% raise and Captain is 21000
F/O Housing Allowance is 10000, captain is 12000
transport Allowance is 1500 for both
Furniture Allowance is now a lump sum figure of 50000 upto 5 years service and if above then 25000
school fee is now 50,000 per annum upto 21 years of age.
No change in flying allowance even though they tried to fool us with showing a high figure but it was basically the same flying allowance i.e 90 riyals but now hours shown was 70 as they claim the average hours are 70.
AAB did accepted that there is a problem regarding housing and now they are providing villas to captain and F/O with apartment and depending on the size of the family F/O will be provided with big size apartments. AAB said they are building a 62 stories apartment and with all the facilities for qatar airways pilots.
Parking issue was discussed and he said very soon when dispatch will be shifted to the new airport the transport allowance will be finish and there will be company transport for pick and drop.
Few question were asked regarding allowances, housing and parking. the meeting was then followed by a group photo with AAB, he was joking there too and then a dinner. There was a live music band playing soft jazz music.
Overall the meeting was very nice. Apparently all the pilots were in an agressive mood before the meeting but they all came out happy and that because the CEO was in a good, this is my observation.
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Oh dear
Well if you live with five other pilots, or have an old housing contract you may make something out of this. I hear the Capt basic was up about 3500 ? If you are in a Villa costing 12000, or in Comp accom then there is nothing gained there. If you discount housing and schooling - what was the raise? No wonder the Boss was happy.
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I am bit confused just want to know that why did you came here to work. You are not happy with the airline,country, people etc.. but you still wanted to come here. why???
if you dont like it then why dont you leave it and if you cant then stop complaing. Nobody is forcing you to work here.If you can find a better job you all should go and work there
There are people outside looking for jobs and with this salary they would love to come here.
if you dont like it then why dont you leave it and if you cant then stop complaing. Nobody is forcing you to work here.If you can find a better job you all should go and work there
There are people outside looking for jobs and with this salary they would love to come here.
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A330 300 has said it all correctly.
The meeting was well presented and the boss was in a good mood with pleasant conversation and answers.
Overall conduct was good......... money was ???????....... Not sure how to answer the money issue. Lots of hidden things I think with the lumm Summ pay for furniture and you will loose the 900 for capt and 700 for F/o per month for furniture.
HM
The meeting was well presented and the boss was in a good mood with pleasant conversation and answers.
Overall conduct was good......... money was ???????....... Not sure how to answer the money issue. Lots of hidden things I think with the lumm Summ pay for furniture and you will loose the 900 for capt and 700 for F/o per month for furniture.
HM
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Yes its 50000 per annum and its around 20000 - 22000 per child per annum for primary school. This is the fee of british schools or other international schools in Doha, except American School which has a very high fee, approx 1000 US per month. You can go and check various school website in Doha, they have school fee details
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People are unhappy as they were made promises on joining that haven't been kept. And also how can people just walk away to another job when they have financial commitments in Qatar now ??
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As i said earlier nbody is forcing anyone to work here, financial committment are only done if you know that you are going to live here for life.
for the last post, yes you can talk to them by asking if they can consider you for the different fleet, but i doubt it once they have selected you for A320 and then change you to A330. The layovers on A320 are not much except Vienna, Kathmandu, Nairobi, Colombo depending on the traffic load otherwise its either A300 or A330 etc.. I am surprised why people are interested in Layovers. If you have a family in Doha then its better to have turn around flight and spent time with them. The layover meal allowances are not very exciting that one should depend on. In my opnion i would prefer to do a turn around instead of layover flights.But unfortunately there are hardly any turn around flights on A330
Moving on to a long haul aircraft will take atleast 18 - 24 months depending on your performance.
for the last post, yes you can talk to them by asking if they can consider you for the different fleet, but i doubt it once they have selected you for A320 and then change you to A330. The layovers on A320 are not much except Vienna, Kathmandu, Nairobi, Colombo depending on the traffic load otherwise its either A300 or A330 etc.. I am surprised why people are interested in Layovers. If you have a family in Doha then its better to have turn around flight and spent time with them. The layover meal allowances are not very exciting that one should depend on. In my opnion i would prefer to do a turn around instead of layover flights.But unfortunately there are hardly any turn around flights on A330
Moving on to a long haul aircraft will take atleast 18 - 24 months depending on your performance.