EK 777 rosters
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I totally agree. The credit for duties other than flying can only work if the credit is based on the actual monthly flying (credit) we are expected to achieve. The company is winning on this one.
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Not just ADOPT uses blocking window. It is the standard for almost every rostering system. I would think 3-5 hr window would be impossible if "every" crew has to fit the window as EK minimum credit for a trip would bust this right away. Actually a larger bid window helps in flexibility to satisfy bidding.
The difference is that EK bases this window on the amount of work against the number (read shortage) of pilots to do the work; EK has long and shorthaul rosters mixed; and EK have CCQ crew all in the same rosters.
Other companies are forced to hire crew when they are projected to exceed these published windows on the regular basis, and have split out like flying.
I totally agree. The credit for duties other than flying can only work if the credit is based on the actual monthly flying (credit) we are expected to achieve. The company is winning on this one.
OutHere
Not just ADOPT uses blocking window. It is the standard for almost every rostering system. I would think 3-5 hr window would be impossible if "every" crew has to fit the window as EK minimum credit for a trip would bust this right away. Actually a larger bid window helps in flexibility to satisfy bidding.
The difference is that EK bases this window on the amount of work against the number (read shortage) of pilots to do the work; EK has long and shorthaul rosters mixed; and EK have CCQ crew all in the same rosters.
Other companies are forced to hire crew when they are projected to exceed these published windows on the regular basis, and have split out like flying.
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EK 777 rosters
Having read several threads i'm surprised how narrow the criteria some potential new hires use for joining EK.
You can have a sweet roster and be miserable. I for one welcome a 9 day trip that gets me out of dubai and away from the bigotted hypocritical society and company management. If you know what goes on in EK it can be too much to handle. Ignorance is bliss.
When you are treated in a penny pinching disrespecful manner on a daily working basis it is so refreshing to get out of here and smell some open free societies. No place is perfect but few could compare to the gross hypocrisy found in this part of the world.
When I fly with a new hire now and he voluntary left a western type airline I instantly lose respect for him unless he has some great excuse - and most definitely not the one where he says he always wanted to fly a widebody. Remember you always wanted to fly a jet and that 737 or emb145 looked so fine? It's a different peg on the ladder but it's the same ladder.
management has progressively become more arab and will continue as there is a directive for 'emiratization' of companies, most particularely government owned. As a foreigner they don't like you and think you greedy (boeing chief pilot). If you have a difference of opinion with an arab you will lose! You have no rights, be clear on that and extend your emagination as to what that means. This is a tribal society with a concrete and glass facade. They are loyal to their own.
You can have a sweet roster and be miserable. I for one welcome a 9 day trip that gets me out of dubai and away from the bigotted hypocritical society and company management. If you know what goes on in EK it can be too much to handle. Ignorance is bliss.
When you are treated in a penny pinching disrespecful manner on a daily working basis it is so refreshing to get out of here and smell some open free societies. No place is perfect but few could compare to the gross hypocrisy found in this part of the world.
When I fly with a new hire now and he voluntary left a western type airline I instantly lose respect for him unless he has some great excuse - and most definitely not the one where he says he always wanted to fly a widebody. Remember you always wanted to fly a jet and that 737 or emb145 looked so fine? It's a different peg on the ladder but it's the same ladder.
management has progressively become more arab and will continue as there is a directive for 'emiratization' of companies, most particularely government owned. As a foreigner they don't like you and think you greedy (boeing chief pilot). If you have a difference of opinion with an arab you will lose! You have no rights, be clear on that and extend your emagination as to what that means. This is a tribal society with a concrete and glass facade. They are loyal to their own.
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When I fly with a new hire now and he voluntary left a western type airline I instantly lose respect for him unless he has some great excuse - and most definitely not the one where he says he always wanted to fly a widebody
I guess that means you did not come from a western type airline. In any case, it means you are full of cr@p.
I am sure you are a pilot who has lots of experience therefore it could not take more than a month or so to go back to one of those "Western type Airlines".
Because you have not gone yet you must have lost respect for yourself. That is of course if you don't have a good "excuse".
Do us all a favour, leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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When I fly with a new hire now and he voluntary left a western type airline I instantly lose respect for him unless he has some great excuse - and most definitely not the one where he says he always wanted to fly a widebody
I guess that means you did not come from a western type airline. In any case, it means you are full of cr@p.
I am sure you are a pilot who has lots of experience therefore it could not take more than a month or so to go back to one of those "Western type Airlines".
Because you have not gone yet you must have lost respect for yourself. That is of course if you don't have a good "excuse".
Do us all a favour, leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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