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Polycystic Kidney Disease - Class 1

Old 14th Nov 2013, 19:57
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Polycystic Kidney Disease - Class 1

Hi everyone,

I've recently been diagnosed with PKD. Does anyone know if this precludes the possibility of getting an initial easa class 1 medical? I found this JAA extract that would seem to presume that it does..


8.1 Polycystic kidneys

Polycystic kidneys are frequently asymptomatic and the individual may be unaware of his condition in the absence of a recognised family history. If the individual is aware of his condition, even if asymptomatic, then the potential for acute colic, infection, development of hypertension
and renal failure, and the association with berry aneurysm and subarachnoid haemorrhage precludes initial Class 1 certification. If symptomatic, restricted recertification may be considered by the AMS with careful follow-up and assessment. Minor degrees of asymptomatic polycystic kidney may be considered by the AMS, for initial and renewal Class 2 certification following
investigation and follow-up.

I'm also a glider pilot and whilst I know this doesn't affect my group 2 DVLA medical declaration, could it have an effect on the LAPL medical we will be transitioning to?

Many thanks!
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Old 24th Nov 2013, 10:10
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Current UK interpretation of EASA rules is here..

Genitourinary Guidance Material | Medical | Personal Licences and Training

relevant extract reads..

Polycystic renal disease
The diagnosis of autosomal dominant polycystic kidney disease requires an OML for class 1 certificate holders. Berry aneurysms need to be excluded by means of Magnetic Resonance Angiography and cardiac valve disease (including aortic root dilatation) by means of an echocardiogram. Abdominal aortic aneurysm also needs to be excluded.
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Old 8th Dec 2013, 13:27
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Hi Jjimmyy,

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I myself have been diagnosed with ADPKD 2 days ago.
Looking at the guidance material, it seems a Class 1 is possible with additional scans, but it will have an OML attached to it.

Currently I have a Class 2 medical and a PPL. I am having to seriously consider my options movinig forward and the risks involved with investing a large sum towards a CPL.

Its stuff like this which make you realise that life's a b, and it doesnt care about your plans.
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Old 8th Dec 2013, 15:46
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Thanks for the replies. The guidance material is very useful and does seem to suggest it is possible even if it comes with limitations.
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Old 8th Dec 2013, 16:22
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Obtaining a class 1 with PKD is definitely a possibility.
The chances of securing the first flying job with an OML seem minimal according to the information out there. I donít know if itís worth the hassle.
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Old 16th Mar 2014, 17:36
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Polyscystic Kidneys

Hi all,
Sorry if i have wrote this in the wrong section however i have a few queries as i have a huge interest in becoming a Pilot.

I am 18 years of Age and have recently been selected for Phase 2 (Assessment day) at CTC Aviation, however,

I have also been diagnosed with PKD (Polycystic Kindeys) which brings me to wonder, would i still be able to carry on leanring to fly as from what i have gathered i will only be able to gain a class 1 medical with OML.

Or have i misread this? I am currently in great helath and have no issues with my disease, and all my tests have come back clear, Would this still require me to have an OML?

Many Thanks
Callum.
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 04:30
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ADPKD

callumwilkinson,
Please think very careflly about your future choices with regards to a career in flying. I too have PKD, and have already gone through a portion of flight training.

The full legislation with regards to Class 1 and pkd can be found here:
Genitourinary Guidance Material | Medical | Personal Licences and Training
But in essence is says the following:

1. If you have PKD, you may obtain a Class 1 with an OML if you can also exclude the following:

a) Berry aneurysms need to be excluded by means of Magnetic Resonance b) angiography and cardiac valve disease (including aortic root dilatation) by means of an echocardiogram. Abdominal aortic aneurysm also needs to be excluded.

Want my advice? Go get the above done and see if youre in the clear. If you are, get yourself a class 1 medical, untill then do not give CTC a penny of your money.

I seriously suggest you have a plan B; getting your first flying job is hard enough these days, but with no experience and an OML on your medical i'd say the chaces are very slim.

Im not just saying this, im also in the same boat. I have my echocardiogram tomorrow, and am waiting for the MRI results. If I can get a class 1 with OML, i will continue flying, and train at my own pace without getting into debts. If the results are less than positive, then I guess i will stick to flying privately and just get on with the rest of my life.
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