TelBoy

Monty, I think the UK CAA are the only authority that issue restricted class 1 medicals. The medical states for day only and no public transport. You can get an IR so not limited to VFR.

The night is done dual - many have done it, read back through this thread.

However no public transport really limits you to instructing.

Also who knows what the future brings with EASA??? if anyone knows more, please let us know.

Hope this helps.

bearbear8888

Hello everyone, I am a pilot wanna-be resided in Hong Kong and I want to apply for the signal light test and medical flight check in the U.S. to continue my Cadet Pilot Programme application.

However, the doctor in CX told me I need to be a FAA flying license applicant to apply for the test. As I have learnt from FAA web, I am not required any previous flying experience to take the FAA medical examination AND taking the SLT and MFT needs an authorization letter after taking the FAA medical.

Does anyone know wht does the doctor in CX mean? Is he telling the truth ? Can people in different country apply for the SLT and MFT?

Thanks.

Mike

TelBoy

bearbear,

You need an FAA medical that has colour vision restriction on it to apply for the SLT. I applied for mine from the UK, but had to take it in the US - and passed. The FAA give you a letter of authorisation to take the test. My FTO was very helpful with this (Professional Flight Training in Fort Lauderdale, FL) It was many years ago now (1994) and I think PFT have moved, so don't know if they are the same people.

If you can find a FAA medical examiner that has the Farnsworth Lantern, it might be worth trying that first, as you can fail that as many times as you like without any comeback. You only get two chances at the SLT and then you will have the colour vision restriction permanently.

Hope this helps and all the best.

Ponte

I have one Farnsworth lantern in Portugal if someone wants to give it a try.

cheers

bearbear8888

Telboy,

Thank you very much for your reply, FAA requires class 1 medical applicant to do more than a SLT now because of the Fedex accident....I need to take the MFT as well so i probably have to rent a plane and a pilot to do the test.... its going to cost me a lot

anyway i am gonna take a faa medical exam with a local AME in Hong Kong first....

so does anyone know how can a person with no flying experience to do the MFT?

Scottish.CPL

This a general query that anyone can reply to ok, can anyone brief me on the location of the spectrolux lantern and if anyone has done this test to share their experiences..

many thanks to all

ryan.

TelBoy

bearbear,

When I took the SLT it was much the same as today.

You do the SLT and then get an unrestricted class 3 medical (for PPL) this allows you to do your PPL and get flying experience without limitation. For class 1 or 2 medicals you need the MFT.

It has changed a bit over the years. I first got SODA for class 2 and 3, so I could have gone for CPL, but would have needed the MFT for class 1. They then changed regulation so that the SLT was ALL that was needed for ANY class medical, so the FAA gave me a Letter of Evidence for ALL classes of medical. They seem to have reverted back to the old system.

Remember the UK CAA have had talks with the FAA to integrate the CAD test, so god knows what the future brings.

Scottish CPL,

You ask about the Spectrolux. It is two colours above each other. Red, White and Green, a bit like the HW. I think it is easier than the HW as the dots of colour are a bit bigger. There are 12 sets and two shades of each colour ie R and r W and w and G and g (the way they represent the results). They run through the 12 sets twice, so you see 24 sets of colours the last 12 being in the same order as the first 12. Any mistakes and you fail.

I do not know if the UK CAA will now accept the Spectrolux results as they have their new CAD toy - does anyone have a definitive answer on this??

bearbear8888

Telboy,

Would you mind telling me where did u learn MFT is longer needed ? As far as I know from a faa flight surgeon very recently, its stll on the list if u wanna get a class 1.

TelBoy

Sorry bearbear for the confusion. When I took my SLT the MFT was needed for class 1. Then the FAA changed rules and accepted the SLT for ALL classes of medical - and gave me a letter of evidence for ALL classes of medical since then they seemed to have reverted to the "old" system requiring a MFT. Details at FAA website Guide for Aviation Medical ExaminersDecision Considerations

Hope this clears it up. I seem to be the lucky one getting my LOE

bearbear8888

I think their old practice should be SLT only because they just introduced the MFT in 2008 after the Fedex incident... maybe somewhere between 2008 and today they had it removed for a while... haha anyway thanks a lot for clarifying

PPRuNeUser0161

Windforce
Sorry to hear you failed the cad. I would love to have a go to see what its like but at half way round the world its just too far. I recommend you get yourself out to oz and get your career started. The whole thing is backwards!
SN

Edit: You know its warm out here and that makes you see clor better you know!!!!

Blinkz

Can you not transfer your JAA Class 1 medical to the UK? I thought that was possible?

Blinkz

Did the UK give a decent reason for not accepting a full mutual recognition states Class 1? You'd probably have grounds to appeal, especially when EASA comes in since it will be based in law then and everyone will be the same standard.

tresholdman

hello everyone

first i'm sorry if my english writing is not perfect, i'm in the same case "color blind" but student PPL whit a medical class 2 vfr restriction by day only"
i discover all the discusion about our vision color problem to succed for a class 1
I'm from belgium and i have fail the ishi hara test.
After complementary test (lantern, anomalscop, etc) they were no possibilities to reach my goal after the decision of the doctor.
But i fly sinds a few month and i see the different colors of the airfield when the night fall. i begin to believe that i can succed for class 1

i read your differents post about this subject sinds two days and like a lot of pilot in my case, i have questions

i have read the text about the different exams at the CAA gatwick

they talk about a test
A new web-based colour vision test

if i succed this test is this enough for class 1, is this ok for europe ?

a have read a lot of article about the deficience color vision for pilot and really i dont know how to do if i want one day became a professional pilot

i wish all my best to all of you and i thank you for your different advice and answer

best regards

bmather9

Military Color Vision Regs will change, its just a matter of time: Color Blindness and Military Fitness for Duty: A New Look at Old Standards | Military Medicine | Find Articles at BNET

It’s hard to tell how strict they will be. There’s an online demo of the test mentioned: A new web-based colour vision test

DeltaFox

Hi fellow members! Its unfortunate that my first post on this forum has to be regarding this disorder. However its a reality and it needs to be discussed. So I hope to learn from others and hopefully we can all help each other! So here's my story: I was diagnosed with KK in my right eye in 2009 at age 22. I have been using glasses and contact lenses since 1999 so I am very used to it. Anyway I recall first experiencing KK symptoms in 2003. It was very very mild and it only started to bother me last year (6 years later). During this time I have however obtained a Class 1 medical from the South African CAA and qualified as a CPL. Now after my first diagnosis I was told to come for a check up 6 months later (which was March 2010). I have been told that I only have KK possible in my left eye and KK level 1 in my right eye. The disorder has also taken very long to progress so I think I am quite fortunate that it isn't that bad at this stage. An opthamologist has recommended that I receive crosslinking, which is where they remove the epithilium, insert the riboflavin droplets and use the UV light for 30 minutes. He has even told me that LASIK might be a possible option at a later stage if everything has stabilised.

So my question is, what advice can you give me. Should I have this done or should I rather wait? I have been told that I would be able to fly again after just 1 week although it has been said that my sight in the affected eye might be a bit hazy for a while. ANY HELP/ADVICE WOULD BE EXTREMELT APPRECIATED!!!

batty11

Hello everybody

First order of business, thank you to everybody who has contributed on this thread - reading it has given me a lot of insight into CVD - something I was recently diagnosed with.

i have mild deuteranomaly and was surprised to discover this at an employment related medical as I had never really noticed any real colour issues growing up or in any aspect of my day to day life. I am currently learning to fly and have attended the Class 1 aviation medical and am awaiting the official paperwork. Each respective specialist has stated that I've achieved their satisfactory grade.

I passed the Farnsworth test - sweating, one more error would have resulted in a fail grade. I was told that my colour vision deficiency is genetic and unlikely to change. I was also told that my CVD is very minor and that as such it is of no practical significance. I have a few questions though in relation to possible implications of CVD in airline recruitment and medical renewals that I hope somebody in 'the know' might be able to help with:

1. How often will I need to sit the Farnsworth (or other CV tests) to renew Class 1 medicals? (it's annoying having to pay around $100 more than everybody else who doesn't a=have CVD due to CV referrals!)

2. Has anybody here had personal experiences in approaching airlines with a CVD? Were you subject to direct or indirect discrimination during the recruitment process?

3. When I did my Farnsworth test I received two results pages - one in plain english describing the nature of my CVD and the other a more complex scientific like analysis exploring scores on a series of tests correct to two decimal places. Can these documents be used at future Class 1 renewals to avoid having to repeat the Ishihara and Farnsworth tests? (as I keep hearing that CVD is generally stable throughout one's life)

Thank you very VERY much for taking the time to read this and I wish you all the best with your flying journeys!

TelBoy

batty - you say one MORE error would result in falure? how many can you get wrong down under? Did you do, or get offered the Signal Light Test?

Glad you got your class 1 and sorry I cant answer your question, but look forward to the answer.

batty11

Hi TelBoy

Yes i passed the farnsworth so I wasnt required to do the signal light test. I think you can only make one mistake per run through of the test and i think they do about three run throughs from memory.

Thanks for your response - cheers

KRDAVIS

Hi Folks

Sorry if this going over old ground

I have had my PPL since 2000, it has since expired due to the fact i can no longer realise my dream due to CVD, and therefore no Class 1 unrestricted

I went to Gatwick just before the CAD came out and failed all the tests. on the Ishihara i think i only got 3-4 correct....
I have been reading through all the threads on the CAD and i'm debating wether or not to re attend Gatwick and sit the CAD
Does anybody know if they offer the D-15 Farnsworth test?
I have been checking out various sites and sitting what on line tests i can, I have tried the mock on line CAD test and for me personally i lost the coloured square on two occasions for a couple of seconds on each time.
Can anyone offer me any advice on the CAD and if anyone out there who failed the Ishihara miserably but was still successful on the CAD.

Oh and does anyone know of an online CAD that you can genuinely have a go at?

KD