planecrazy.eu

This thread has in the main focused on getting ready for, or can i pass, etc, but its all about the actual Aaviation Auth test.

I was wondering this.

You scrape your C1 (Yippeee) but then you get called in for an interview and get given an airline medical (new worry).

I am trying to get at, what do airlines expect from your vision?

Do they have initial and renewal?

Do then take age into consideration? or maybe degeneration from Initial C1?

C1 renewal is well within the reach of most posting there things on here, but i am guessing that airlines may have much tigher requirements?

But yet again, like i say, just guessing!

Loose rivets

Hey fireoff and 172 My mistake!


The first bit about not re-posting was probably good advice, but the second, as 172 says, was not. I've got so involved in a huge tome and another web site all dealing with modern neuo-mapping in the visual field, that I'd forgotten we were on an open thread. Mea culpa.


There was a thread dedicated to better sight without glasses, I'll go and hide there.

Shunter

Chucky, I recommend you spend this evening reading this thread from start to finish.

One of the key factors to passing the tests is knowing how they work. Knowing that the reds, greens, whites etc.. will change their hue (shade) during the test. There isn't simply 1 red, 1 green, 1 white. The CAA don't bother to tell you this, so although you think, "That looks like a green to me, but it can't be, the last one was green and it wasn't the same as that....", it IS green, and your brain is distracted by what is essentially a mindgame. There is detailed information on the tests if you read back far enough.

I failed the tests at Gatwick, but after substantial research and finding out exactly how these tests operate I had no problem passing an alternative JAA approved test in Switzerland.

Just my 2c.

ollywood

Alrite Guys,
Just wanted to know if anyone has used any natural eyesight improvement programmes especially the Bates method or the one by Orlin Sorensen and basically do they work?? Am a bit sceptical as they seem a little too good to be true tbh!
Am contemplating trying one, any recommendations as to which one to go for?

Also how far can they actually go to giving you 'perfect eyesight' as they claim to??

Any help appreciated
Olly

punit

Hey mate I would recommend anyone to do yoga, not the yoga that you might think of at the moment but it is called anulombh vilombh(indian name for it) and kapalbhati pranayam( indian name), these are done by a great yogi called swami ramdev who is extremely good at yoga and i had glasses for 9 years and now i don't need to use no glasses my sight is perfectly fine now, even checked with optician and he was surprised. so try it
type in google patanjali yog pith and in the website purchase his english version of the book it is extremely good. i had a change in 6 months and i had number of 4.0 in left eye an 3.25 in the right

Loose rivets

Mmm...If I had to make an unqualified guess, I'd say that you were causing the error by tension in the extraocular muscles, and the yoga relaxed them.

See Wiki

What astonishes me, is the error can be very constant...almost as if some feedback signal is giving wrong data and setting the eye to the wrong focus. Only when the entire system is truly at rest, can an optician make an accurate assessment of your prescription. Happily, it seems that not many people are thus affected.

planecrazy.eu

Hey

this is a reply to the yoga thing. Read it a few days ago (post) and downloaded the material (free via another source).

I tried this 1 hour in the evening, so three hours all in all.

First up, i could read a 7mm letter at a distance of 1m with no correction.

Just tried my last attempt, and now i am at 4mm at 1m, so thats loads of improvement.

I think its all in the mind, but cant find out how to convert this to a visual accurity.

If i calculated right it should be 24mm letter at 6m distance, but whats that in terms of 6/6 etc?

I will say, i didnt think in the mind i could read the letters, but i did get them correct, i needed 6mm letters after three days to feel confident that i could see them without feeling i was guessing them, which i did at 4mm, even though i got them all correct and just to be sure i didnt memorise them i printed a few more pages out of random letters at 4mm.

Someone help converting it, as i want to see if this is the same as what i get at the opticians and i have wasted my time.

20/50 is what i can see in the opticians with no correction, and 20/25 with correction.

My eyes fall within CAA limits, always have done, but i just cant crack that 20/20 line which is what my goal is, and will try anything no matter how stupid it sounds.

Rasco

Hi guys,

Does anyone know any nice AMC's where I could do the anomaloscopy?
I'm not allowed to do another examination in my home country.

Take care guys!

cx252

Hi everyone,

I have done my eye test today and it comes out with the result are listed below,

R: SPH -5.25, CYL -1.50 and AXIS 17
L : SPH -5.50, CYL -1.00 and AXIS 10

Am I still qualified as correctable 20/20 standard to be a airline pilot?


Best Regards

planecrazy.eu

To the above, your ok up to -6, so that falls within limits.

However, i am guessing that your best bet is to send the last three opticians reports to them and get their opinion.

If you can see 20/20 or 6/6 corrected, then you should be ok.

alexw9

I'm not really educated on understanding vision and if I would qualify for a class 1 medical with the CAA, so would appreciate if someone could guide me.

I recently had some eye test and my result's are as follows.

Unaided vision is 6/5 R and L (binocular 6/4)

Prescription:
R +0.75/-0.25 x 180
L +2.25/-0.25 x 120

Near Vision:
N4 at 30-50cm
N8 at 100cm

Cover test shows a small alternating esotropia (near only)

I will of course be contacting the CAA with regards to my vision as well as other medical issues I have, but if someone could give me an educated answer if my vision is good enough I would appreciate it greatly.

Regards,

Alex

Paradise Lost

There has been much discussion about eyesight improving or deteriorating at fairly short intervals. I haven't yet seen any reference to hydration relative to ocular accuity.
My eyes dimmed due to normal wear and tear at the age of 53, so I am now compelled to CARRY glasses for near vision (not WEAR them?).
The next 2 AvMeds carried out by the same doc. showed that now I don't need to carry them! Too late to remove it from my Class 1 Med cert but interesting nonetheless. The conclusion we came to is that due to dehydration (arrived straight from 12 hr night flight), the check that necessitated my "carry glasses" anotation, was considerably worse than when I presented myself subsequently properly rested, hydrated and alcohol-free.
An example that may demonstrate this to you, is how difficult it is to read tiny print first thing in the morning after a 'session', but it becomes quite easy to read in the afternoon when the H20 levels are back to normal.

alexw9

Without trying to sound a bit cheeky, is there anyone that can advise me, please?

Cheers

bethkait

I just stumbled across your thread after having this test during a medical for a job interview yesterday. I have never had this test before.

When I was looking through the instrument I could not see any of the numbers on the right hand side where the white arrow was pointing. My vision was blocked by the metal bar on the right hand side of the instrument. I could see the red arrow and numbers on the left and I could see the white arrow but no numbers at all above it.

The doctor was pretty rude. When I asked, "is it a trick?", she scoffed and said a hundred people had done this test today without a problem. So what is wrong with me!? Eventually I asked if I could take my glasses off, wondering if their pressing against the binoculars of the instrument was affecting my view. I still could not see the white numbers!

Under pressure because the doctor did not believe I could not see the numbers, I squinted a little and eventually saw the bottom of what I thought was a 3, so I just said three. This test has bugged me though. I don't understand it and is there something wrong with my eyes?! Help!

Rasco

2close,

I'm definitely listening to what you're saying. I told the JAA-guys about the same thing and as I said they're looking at my case at the moment.

I talked too a brittish CAA-man who told me that they could consider accepting my anomaloscope result if they got the issuing authorities opinion as to whether the test is a pass for JAR certificatory purposes.

The issuing authority in my case is it the AME? Or the Swedish JAA? And would this authority really say that my anomaloscope test is a pass "for JAR certificatory purposes" even if they wouldn't accept the results themselves? And what would I say when they ask: "Why do you need an english translated version of your examination confirming that this is a test done for a JAR certificatory purpose?"

Just gotta try, I guess

Valdas

Hi,

I've got following problem:
Yesterday i went to a doctor to asses my CVD with an anomaloscope. After the test the doctor tried to "classify" me on the basis of the JAR requiremnts of 2002... After i pointed out that problem he promissed to check it out, but claimed even he is doing the tests regularly! Today, the doctor contacted german LBA and it came out... he is not allowed to make any assesments any more, since he is not an AME (although he has neccesery equipment) and this is the reason why he has no actual JAR requirements. So, that's the story, and i'm a little bit ****** up.

The question: could any AME tell me whether I passed the test or not in terms of JAR FCL 3?
Diagnosis (in german): Deuteranomalie (Anomal - quotient = 4)

or at least is it worth of doing the same test in AMC, or should I try another type of test?

The problem with this parameter ("Anomal - quotient") is, that in Annex 14 uses a parameter from a measuring device "which is not being used any more", so the doctor and he was not able to compare them.


Thanks a lot in advance

chriscarr13

Hi guys,

I am currently in my final year at University and really want to pursue a career afterwards as a commercial airline pilot.

However, looking into it I need some thoughts about whether I'm likely to pass the medical test.

I am a physically fit 21 year old who plays a lot of sport etc.-however, I have had a detached retina in my left eye in the past-the vision is now fine, but I do wear contact lenses to correct my short sightedness, which is -6.00 in my left eye and -5.75 in my right-is there a limit to how short sighted you can be in order to pass the medical?

I'm a bit worried that this may prevent me from passing-any advice would be really appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris

planecrazy.eu

I would say its going to be hard to pass, simply because you have had a detached retina in the past, which is 1 of the reasons why those limits are there, as people outside the limits are more likely to have retnal detachment.

-6 is the limit, but you also need to be able to see 20/20 Bino.

Your best bet is to contact the CAA and ask them, they will get you to send in past results and tests and then maybe invite you down.

They are there to help, and i am assured they take no pleasure in turning people down.

llobregat

Gatwick. There were 2 rounds

DuffyDuck

Hey Alex, just read your question. I think you eyesight should be ok. I've got an esotropia as well (a small one) and I even have very bad stereovision. As long as you have a good binocular vision (looking with both eyes the same time without doublevision) there shouldn't be a problem. I got my medical about 2 months ago in Germany.
Best luck to you.