NurseToPilot

Your SPHERE measurement is within the allowed limits for correction with glasses or contact lenses however teh CYLINDER (astigmatism) is -2.5, and would need to be discussed with the CAA

For class 1 medical certification you need to be within 2.0 to pass the INITIAL and 3.0 to pass the renewal/revalidation......

NORMALLY in this case if you are outside the INITIAL limit you may still be awarded the class 1 with a restriction until you pass your CPL but as said you would need to discuss this with the CAA on an individual basis

I had LASIK to correct an astigmatism of -3.75 (it is now -0.25)

HOPE THIS HELPS

JON

Afraz

my cyl is as it says on sheet of paper is -0.25.

Afraz

is Cyl -0.25 the same as -2.5?

Blues&twos

There's been some confusion about your cyl because your original post says

Dist Sph Cyl Axis

Right -4.50

Left -4.50 -02.5 45

I assume you meant to type -0.25?

Afraz

Yes I did mean to type -0.25. Sorry about that, completly my fault and I take the blame.

inverted123

Ok Guys, i have been given a number to call Dr.K.K.Goyal .
"Quote" "We do not use any special glasses or contacts for the treatment.The treatment is completely natural without any aid."

Dr.K.K.Goyal.

Very interesting LETS FIND OUT MORE!!

AMEandPPL

I agree entirely, though must admit I'm still very sceptical ! Conventional medical wisom and teaching is that CVD is simply NOT amenable to change. However, many important medical advances have happened in some most unexpected ways over the years in the past.

What is much more alarming is that debate on this very important subject is so stifled as it is on here. Whiskey, I apologise for whistle-blowing on your post. It might have remained longer if the mods' vision was a bit below JAR standards ! ! Well, let's face it, on here if you didn't laugh, you'd cry !

Bad medicine

Nope, debate is not stifled at all. The posting of links to commercial sites, without the site owners' consent, is not allowed under the site rules. You know it, and have known it for a long time. Yet for reasons best known to yourself, you still attempt to hijack threads to further your own agenda.

BM

NurseToPilot

In this case your prescription SEEMS to fall within the JAR / JAA / CAA requirements but they normally assess each case on an individual basis so it is ALWAYS a good idea to contact them directly for advice if you cannot make 100% sense of their documentation!

Malta_Flyer

If you hold a Class 1, and all of a sudden your myopia has increased out of initial limits (nothing too dramatic..somewhere between -6 and -8 diopters), you can still get 6/6 correction with your specs and you have no pathology...can the doc NOT revalidate your medical???

My question comes from the 'MAY CONSIDER' wording in the requirements. Its like we dont have anything to support our claim that we are suitable..as a lot seems to be left to the discretion of the AME!

NurseToPilot

Why would your MYOPIA 'suddenly' change?

I would think that you had some pathological problems if you jump 2 diopters over night?

-6 or -8 IS dramatic thats a steep prescription!

Again i RE ITERATE the documentation "may consider" suggests once again that the CAA will treat each case individually and you cannot base your experience on that of the last or next person - ASK THEM for advice



JON

Mohit_C

In response to Malta_Flyer.

That very same question I did to an AME in Madrid when I last went for my renovation for my Class 1 Medical test. According to the AME, if you are working for an airline or are performing duties related to your licence and if you do tend to drift away from the limit of -8 dioptres, then they won't revoke the Class 1 Medical certificate.

I actually am quite worried too about my eyesight getting worse, especially about my astigmatism (2.5 dioptres). I just feel so encouraged to have LASIK, but then the recovery time is an issue plus the possibilty of losing permanently the medical certificate. On the other hand, I also feel a good alternative using the "Rebuild Your Vision" programme, however many posts on this forum don't clearly state whether it's just a waste of money or "does do some benefit".

2papabravo

NurseToPilot,

I don't think Malta Flyer meant that your prescription changes overnight from -6 to -8, that's crazy. I think he means that your prescription drifts into that banding. And if so, what are the implications on medical renewals?

On an additional note, does anyone have any stats on number of Class 1 holders that have had LASIK? Any ideas?

2pb

Malta_Flyer

No absolutely not. I meant obtaining your class one with close to the initial limit, and then drifting off to close to -8 over a number of years (say 5 or 6 years).

I agree that -6 or -8 is a steep prescription. However lets look at it this way, the CAA considers someone with a -6 to be healthy enough for a class 1 initial! Also, until some years ago, someone with a -8 was definitely healthy enough for a revalidation. The point is that if this guy can read the bottom numbers just like anyone else, why stop him from moving forward? Mind you, my optician often remarks that he has people with a correction of -0.75 or -1 who still cant see 6/6!!

As Mohit_C said, I believe there is quite a bit of tolerance nowadays. Infact strictly speaking, it even says on the CAA site that there is NO myopic limit for renewal an revalidation. However when your beloved career is at stake...that 'MAY consider fit' starts to worry you!! Do you know of anyone who actually LOST his medical due to myopia at revalidation?

Canada Goose

My last eye test was August 2005 and I specifically had it for Class 1 renewal purposes. Since then there has been a change (relaxation) in the eye testing periodicity. My last Class 1 was August 2007 and since I am only really flying GA at present and with no job insight, (in fact, I’m not looking anymore), I am flying on Class 2 privileges. I will have to renew my medical next August but not sure if I will bother with Class 1 or 2 at this moment.

Anyway, to cut to the chase. I want to get a new pair of specs and prescription sun glasses and since my last eye exam was 3 years ago I felt I should have a new one in case the prescription has changed. However, as those who wear glasses know, the CAA want additional info and forms to be filled in, which of course an optician charges more for. Now my question is, given I am now over 40 (42 in Jan 09) is it worth my while (money and hassle) of getting the optician to do these extra tests etc in readiness for my next medical or will it be out of date by the time I need to present my eye test results given the change in the rules.

I’ve tried looking on the back of my medical certificate, in LASORS and on the CAA website but can’t find any definitive info, so can any knowledgeable soul please advise. Thanks for sticking with it and reading my long winded scribe !!

Cheers, CG.

Canada Goose

I fear I may have written an overly complicated thread so let me try and put it more succinctly!

1. How often does one have to have an eye test for CAA medical renewals ?
2. If I had an eye test now (including completion of CAA forms), how would it remain valid for ?

Cheers,
CG.

Neo_RS14

JetBlue,

My friend, you are in an extremely favourable position in comparison to 98% of the posters on this mammoth double thread which goes back as far as 2001 or so...

This is because you have a shot at the light gun test...There are loads of things you can do to prepare for that....head down to some airports, maybe make a call to an ATC tower and be polite and explain your situation, and ask if they'd possibly give you an example of the lights.

There are even some clips of the lights on youtube...you also have an opportunity to try the other forms of tests first...do as much research on all of these tests, and understand how they work etc....

Do your absolute best and make sure you get through this...you have an INCREDBILE opportunity, make sure you make good use of it...

Fail the tests here, then thats it, end of the line.

Do your best, you can make it.

Ouseburn

Hi,

If at the time of obtaining a CAA Class 1 initial medical I was wearing glasses to correct my vision but later on wanted to wear contact lenses whilst flying, does anybody know if I would have to retake the visual test at the CAA in order to get the contact lenses certified?

Thanks

Shunter

Find me someone who's failed it once and I'll be impressed! It's easy.

Bips

After a long silence from the CAA Medical Dept I phoned them to find out that my perscription of -8.25 & -1.25cycl in each eye was outside the range for both class 1 & 2. Other than that I have no medical issues.
They told me there is no appeal process worth following and barring a change of rules (which they think would't happen for at least 3 years) there was no way they would issue a medical certificate to fly.

They told me to contact NPPL for further information on their requirements and restrictions.

Has anyone ever overturned this? Or have I run out of runway here..