dy1ng_to_fly

This is strictly my opinion and not fact...
But I imagine that, as there is no second chances in an emergency, there is also no second chances in a medical

hippotamus

While I sympathise ( I know all about dodgy eyesight) I'm not sure how you expect to pass second time around? What are you expecting to change?

Abusing_the_sky

Pascal, one question: is it operable?

Whilst waiting for the pending answer... my 2 cents.

I'm sorry if i, by telling you the truth as i know it, am somehow ruining your dream.
If your left eyesight, even aided, isn't satisfactory and doesn't meet the safety requirements, then i'm afraid that, legally, you are not allowed to operate as crew.

One has to be medically fit in every way for emergency reasons. It might be a minor "eyesight defect" but not in this job.

I suggest you, if i may, to look for another (ground job) as i see you are quite passionate about the aviation industry. Perhaps you could apply for a job at your local airport with a ground handling company or research airlines who have their own handling staff. It might not sound so good but at least it'll give you a taste of what's it like to work in the aviation industry. It's a buzzing place, the thing about working in an airport is that you either hate it or love it, there's no way in between.

I do feel for you and i hope you find a way around this issue (i.e. my "operation" question); dreaming about something and not being able to achieve it is painful.

I wish you best of luck and let us know the outcome.

Rgds,
ATS

PASCAL377

yes, my eyes are operable but it's not sure if after the surgery treatment my left eye recovery at least for the minumum requested to work as cabin crew. I'm ready to start the training and to do my best to pass it and to reach the medicals day as planned.
In the meanwhile i'm praying, and maybe for that day God will be nice with me!
Otherwhise i try to follow your advise but it's not simple to work as handler in an airport!!
I will keep you updated, and thank you for your reply!

planecrazy.eu

Just wondering, but if your fit enough to get a Class One Medical, then wont you be fit enough to pass the company medical?

Does ryan air expect more that the re-validation requirements?

I have read loads of places where pilots of an older age couldnt pass the initial, but they can still fly as they meet and pass re-validation standards?

People have "OFF" days, and if the medical centre at Gatwick can accept this then dont see why a company cant? If yours stressed or trying to hard then your vision gets blured...

hippotamus

The question is from a cabin crew member wannabee rather than a pilot. Perhaps a reason why this thread shouldn't have been moved into this forum?

llobregat

Hello!

I am new here and I see there are a lot of people with the same problem as I have.
I didn't find an exact description of the Holmes Wright test that is taken at Gatwick, so if someone could say how intense are the lights,what colours are involved, the diameter of the light bulbs, some day to day things that have the same intensity. Thank you very much


Excuse my english

AMEandPPL

OK, so it is now apparent it was not deleted by the poster.

I'd now really like an answer to that question. OK, it might have been a bit dubious, a bit of quackery, but it was certainly of interest to our readers with CVD, and even specifically mentioned pilots and aviation. Surely that means it's OK to be discussed here ?

IF there really is a good reason for Sanjeev's claims to be barred from here, then why can we not be told what they are ? We are not toddlers, but adults who can make up our own minds. The really sickening thing is that these deletions (CENSORSHIP) are done with no explanation, no warning, and no discussion.

We deserve better treatment than this. . . . . . . may we please have better treatment ?

Hawk

Sanjeevan's claims are not disputed. However, the moderators' have to delete any "direct link" to a commercial website. Anyone who has had a positive result from any treatment is more than welcome to post their experience. Links are viewed by the Site owners as advertising.

Thank you
Hawk

inverted123

Hawk I posted this link so us CVD people could at least look at what people around the world claim or say they can do to help us, I am sure that we all stand in hope that one day some cure will arise.
I dont know how else I could have shown people what these people were offering and for us to investigate into them further. Regards inverted123

sonjasun

hiya...I am sorry for being so daring to write in the thread for pilots but I am just a bit curious about what you were discussing.

I am wondering what does it mean 6/6 or 20/20...I know that it is the size and the distance in feet or cm....but what is the size 6 or size 20???? ehm...how big is it.... anyone can help? sorry for sounding so stupid

As it would be interesting to find out if I am gonna pass the medicals in Bahrain ( to become a Cabin Crew....not a pilot !!!) actually we are going to fly with nothing done in our countries....so, donīt wanna fail and end up jobless after all that waiting.

Thanks a lot.

Sonia

Neo_RS14

These are very important points indeed.

The very fact there aren't any safety issues abroad illustrate that similar standards should be made available worldwide, across the board. There shouldn't be any issue of one aviation authority being stricter than the others over a thing that does not vary from birth to death.

Ultimately things will even out, Human Rights are important. It's just a matter of when and how.

Maybe when William comes into power

Neo_RS14

Point taken, hilarious post as well, it has to be said.

At least you have the warmth and sunshine to temporarily take your mind off the injustice.

Effing freezing 'ere!!! And fireworks galore!

Arturo Lan

Hi,

6/6 or 20/20 is a measurment of visual acuity used as a standard. When you have 20/20 vision it means that you are able to see from 20 feet away what a person with "normal" vision would see from 20 feet. If you have 20/40 for example it means you can see from 20 feet awat what a person with "normal" vision would be able to see from 40 ft, thus your vision would not be as good as that person and so on.
6/6 is the same but measured in meters.
People who donīt have 20/20 vision without glasses wear spectacles or contacts in order to achieve this standard.
Some people have better than 20/20. It would be something like maybe 20/15.

Hope this helps.
Arturo

2papabravo

Would anyone hazard a guess whether the 3 month lapse of Class 1 following laser surgery will ever be reduced further?

Following surgery for minor/moderate myopia (no astigmatism), most people I speak to seem to say the vision is fine within a matter of weeks.

I have a Class 1 and don't NEED to have it done, but would like one day to throw away the glasses/contacts. I doubt an employer would sign off a 3 month holiday whilst you wait to become medically valid again!

Would be nice if the CAA maybe looked at it case-by-case. The numbers of active pilots getting laser surgery is probably relatively small. A check up 2 weeks after the surgery may indicate everything is fine and work can commence again.

Interested in anybody's thoughts on this...

llobregat

Thanks for the info. Anyone knows what are the chances of an mild anomalous trichromat to pass the Holmes Wright test?

Shunter

One word: bollocks.

I expect the "classes" are simply memorising the plates.

AMEandPPL

inverted123 - you might like also to investigate just why your posts linking to Sanjeevan's alleged "cure" were unceremoniously deleted, while post # 999 has now remained untouched for well over 24 hours.


Done. Thanks for picking that one up. I must have missed it. BM

Afraz

Can you wear glasses and still pass the class 1 medical? These were the most recent results from my eye examination at Vision Express (i dont think they are the best):

Dist Sph Cyl Axis

Right -4.50

Left -4.50 -02.5 45


Aided VA Dist

Right 6/6

Left 6/6

Hawk

Hi Afraz, thanks for your post. In terms of a formal answer to your question the best we can do on a website is quote the appropriate regulatory authority vision guidelines. The direct interpretation of your results is up to your AME of course. Nevertheless, there is some useful information and discussion on the Vision thread about eyesight in general.

Please be cautious about taking on face value any "expert" opinion.
Best wishes
Hawk