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RYANAIR

La Ryanair è l'unico vettore Europeo ad avere delle basi in Italia e allo stesso tempo a non osservare le regole del Contratto Collettivo Nazionale di Lavoro e dell'ENAC: per questo motivo la legittimità della sua presenza in Italia è dubbia. Ad oggi sono stata intentate diverse cause da parte di lavoratori, che chiedono che sia rispettato il loro diritto ad avere un trattamento pari ai loro colleghi italiani.

Non lo dico io, ma contento te Pilotaryan!
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Quindi in Italia ci sarebbe un CCNL per piloti ed AV?

E quali sarebbero le regole ENAC che Ryanair violerebbe?
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23 marzo 2006 - Un Boeing 737 proveniente da Londra Gatwick e diretto a Knock (Irlanda) ha effettuato un mancato avvicinamento in prossimità del suolo a causa di un'errata procedura eseguita dai piloti. In vicinanza del terreno, il sistema EGPWS (Enhanced Ground Proximity Warning System), ha mandato il segnale di allarme (prossimità al suolo). Subito dopo l'aeromobile ha effettuato una nuova procedura e l'atterraggio in sicurezza.
21 marzo 2008 - Un Boeing 737 proveniente da Bruxelles-Charleroi è finito fuori pista durante l'atterraggio a Limoges (Francia centrale). Sei persone sono rimaste ferite in modo lieve. Sul velivolo viaggiavano 186 passeggeri e membri d'equipaggio. Il Boeing è stato evacuato con gli scivoli dopo essere uscito di pista , con pioggia e vento.
25 agosto 2008 - Un Boeing 737 proveniente da Bristol e diretto a Girona con 168 passeggei e 6 membri di equipaggio a bordo, ha subito un'improvvisa depressurizzazione durante il volo, che ha costretto i piloti ad effettuare una rapida discesa e poi un atterraggio di emergenza a Limoges. Dopo l'atterraggio 26 persone sono state ricoverate per accertamenti. Le cause della decompressione non sono state rese note
24 maggio 2010 Sfiorata Collisione Tra Velivoli a CagliariSi e’ sfiorato l’incidente in pista all’aeroporto di Cagliari Elmas fra un aereo Ryanair e uno diAlitalia/AirOne. Un velivolo della compagnia irlandese proveniente da Roma-Ciampino, in fase di rullaggio, non seguendo le indicazioni della segnaletica del piazzale – riferisce la societa’ di gestione dello scalo, la Sogaer - ha effettuato una manovra che avrebbe potuto provocare una collisione con un aereo di Alitalia/Airone, in partenza per Fiumicino, posizionato regolarmente nel punto indicato dalla torre di controllo.

29 settembre 2011 - Poco prima della partenza del Boeing 737-800 sulla tratta Londra-Riga, l'aereo è dovuto tornare all'aeroporto di partenza, poiché il vetro della cabina di guida («riparato» dal personale di terra con del nastro adesivo) ha ceduto.

Questi sono solo alcuni dei fatti,..ma non voglio giudicare l'operato di nessuno!--solo forse a mio avviso servirebbe ancora un po piu di esperienza e molto CRM da mettere in pratica-
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bedix,
ma tu vuoi fare il pilota da grande oppure il giornalista di novella 2000?

Ti ho chiesto se in Italia esista un CCNL per piloti d'aereo ed AV e quali siano le regole ENAC che Ryanair violerebbe.
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da grande...

mah..come hai detto tu..che ne sò io che sto fuori...dimmelo piuttosto tu che ci sei dentro??
che cosa noti..==?? nulla..?? sono tutti contenti e felici??...si..allora beato te..correremo tutti da Ryan!..anzi io ci tornerò!
Allora se non sai nemmeno come ruota il mondo attorno a te..posso anche capire il perche di tante tue cose scritte qui..sei quasi "perdonato"...ma meno invece per quanto riguarda la tua arroganza..
Qualcosa mi dice, visto che l'hai usata quasi subito tu questa parola "arroganza"..che ti è molto familiare....non è che anche nel tuo ambiente ti descrivano cosi?!
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bla bla bla.....

Il CCNL per piloti d'aereo ed AV in Italia NON ESISTE, quindi l'accusa iniziale con la quale hai aperto la discussione e' falsa e tendenziosa.
Se Ryanair, come qualsiasi altra compagnia aerea, violasse le procedure ENAC allora verrebbe sanzionata.
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Ryanair – Eindhoven – 2011
Unreliable Airspeed
On Tuesday, December 6th 2011, a Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-EFE performing flight FR-5268 from Seville,SP (Spain) to Eindhoven (Netherlands) with 156 passengers and 6 crew, was on approach to Eindhoven about 15 minutes prior to estimated landing when the crew reported unreliable airspeed. The aircraft continued for a safe landing on Eindhoven’s runway 22 at a higher than normal speed about 13 minutes later. Police reported an airspeed indication system failed.
Ryanair B738 near Eindhoven on Dec 6th 2011, unreliable airspeed

Ryanair – Dublin – 2011
Slat problem
On December 5, 2011, a Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-DCL performing flight FR-771 from Prestwick,SC (UK) to Dublin (Ireland), aborted the approach to Dublin’s runway 28 reporting leading edge slat problems and entered a holding at 3000 feet for about 30 minutes. While the crew initially indicated they would not need services on stand by, the crew subsequently declared PAN, requested services on stand by and indicated they would need to land at a minimum speed of 180 KIAS and could do only shallow turns. The aircraft continued for a safe landing on Dublin’s runway 28 at a higher than normal speed about 40 minutes after aborting the first approach.
Ryanair B738 at Dublin on Dec 5th 2011, slat problem

Ryanair – Stansted – 2011
Duct Tape,
On October 24th, 2011, a Ryanair flight, travelling from Stansted to Riga in Latvia, was aborted 20 minutes after takeoff when tape used to mend a cockpit window came unstuck and started to make alarming noises, a passenger has said. The tape had been fastened around the edges of the windscreen in the cockpit by ground crew shortly before take-off, he claims. According to the Irish Aviation Authority (IAA), it was being used as an extra precaution to secure a new window seal on the plane.
Ryanair flight aborted after ‘taped window comes loose’

Ryanair – Zaragoza – 2011
Vehicle
On October 1st, 2011, a Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-EFG performing flight FR-5275 from Zaragoza,SP to Sevilla, SP (Spain) with 80 passengers and 6 crew, was accelerating for takeoff on Zaragoza’s runway 30R when the crew noticed a vehicle stopped on the left side of the runway. Considering the distance to the vehicle and the speed of the aircraft the crew elected to continue the takeoff and cleared the vehicle overflying it in about 120-150 feet. The aircraft continued for a safe landing in Sevilla. Spains CIAIAC opened an investigation into the serious incident.
Ryanair B738 at Zaragoza on Oct 1st 2011, takeoff with vehicle on runway

Ryanair – Madrid – 2011
Flaps
On September 27th 2011, a Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-EKH performing flight FR-5308 from Santander,SP to Madrid,SP (Spain), was on approach to Madrid when the crew received an indication of a flaps asymmetry. The aircraft continued for a safe landing on runway 33L at a higher than normal speed.
The aircraft was able to resume service 6 hours later.
Ryanair B738 at Madrid on Sep 27th 2011, flaps asymmetry

Ryanair – Stockholm – 2011
Egine Shutdown
On September 10th 2011, a Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-DLD performing flight FR-9791 from Brussels Charleroi (Belgium) to Lappeenranta (Finland) with 127 passengers and 6 crew, was enroute at FL360 about 100nm south of Stockholm (Sweden) when the crew needed to shut an engine (CFM56) down. The aircraft diverted to Stockholm’s Skavsta Airport for a safe landing on runway 26 about 30 minutes later.
A replacement Boeing 737-800 registration EI-EKE departed Skavsta Airport about 2:45 hours after landing and reached Lappeenranta with a delay of about 3 hours.
Ryanair B738 near Stockholm on Sep 10th 2011, engine shut down in flight

Ryanair – Dublin – 2011
Lightning
On tuesday 6th of September 2011, a Ryanair flight was forced to return to Dublin airport shortly after take-off yesterday after the aircraft was struck by lightning. Ryanair flight FR554 from Dublin to Manchester had just taken off shortly after 4pm when the crew contacted air traffic controllers to advise them the aircraft had been hit by lightning. The flight landed safely about 30 minutes after take-off and did not require any emergency services to be on standby.
Ryanair flight hit by lightning

Ryanair – Cologne – 2011
cabin pressure
On August 30th, 2011, a Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-DCI performing flight FR-9879 from Poznan (Poland) to Madrid,SP (Spain), was enroute at FL360 about 10nm northeast of Cologne (Germany) when the crew reported problems with the cabin pressure and initiated a normal descent. While descending through FL310 the aircraft changed course to divert to Frankfurt/Hahn Airport (Germany) where the aircraft landed safely about 30 minutes later. A replacement Boeing 737-800 registration EI-DYE reached Madrid with a delay of 5 hours. The airline reported the indication was false. The indicator was replaced.
Ryanair B738 near Cologne on Aug 30th 2011, cabin pressure problems

Ryanair – Gatwick – 2011
fumes
On Tuesday, August 31, a Ryanair flight from Girona to Stansted was originally forced to land at Nantes, in France, after a passenger smelt an “unusual odour”. The plane was cleared by engineers at the airport, but other passengers began to complain on the flight forcing the plane to land at Gatwick just after 5pm.
Low Cost Carriers Accidents or Incidents user Lisa Smallman reteels:
“We had the same problem today (30th August 2011). We took off from Gerona at 10.35 bound for Stansted. Passengers complained of smelling burning at the rear galley of the 737. We made an emergency landing at Nantes after about 40mins flying time. We were told that an engineer would be flown out to resolve the issues and that we would be provided with food/drink vouchers. At circa 3.30pm the engineers flight arrived and shortly afterwards we reboarded the plane, having been told by the captain that the engineer had resolved the technical issues and that the plane was safe to fly. Needless to say, we received no vouchers. The ground crew at Nantes advised that they had put in the request to Ryanair, but did not hear vack from them!
Shortly into the second flight, there was further evidence of smoke to the point where the galley crew had to wear oxygen masks! We made a second, more drastic emergency landing at Gatwick.
Ryanair had clearly not fully repaired the technical issues and were negligent in allowing us to continue on the same plane. Furthermore, they failed to provide any information on respect of compensation!”
Ryanair B738 near Nantes and London on Aug 30th 2011, odour on board

Ryanair – Riga – 2011
landing gear
On August 22nd 2010, a Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-DWT performing flight FR-8085 from Brussels Charleroi (Belgium) to Riga (Latvia), was on approach to Riga when the crew reported a gear unsafe indication, performed a low approach which confirmed one of the main gear struts was not down. The aircraft climbed back to 6000 feet and entered a holding to trouble shoot the problem. About 45 minutes after aborting the first approach the crew managed to lower and lock all gear and landed safely on Riga’s runway 18.
Ryanair B738 at Riga on Aug 22nd 2011, unsafe gear

Ryanair – Cochstedt – 2011
bird strike
On August 21st 2011, a Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-DLV performing flight FR-3042 from Magdeburg/Cochsted (Germany) to Las Palmas,CI (Spain), was climbing out of Cochstedt when the crew reported some technical problems and stopped the climb at 2500 feet. A following runway inspection revealed a number of dead birds on the runway. The aircraft subsequently climbed to FL070, burned off fuel and diverted to Weeze (Germany) for a safe landing about one hour after departure.
Ryanair B738 at Cochstedt on Aug 21st 2011, bird strike

Ryanair – Bristol – 2011
loss of cabin pressure
Late on Monday evening, July 25, 2011, A Boeing 737-800 operated by Ryanair as Flight FR-9336 experienced a loss of pressurization while traveling at 34,000 feet on a route from Bristol Airport (BRS) in South West England to Girona-Costa Brava Airport (GRO) outside of Barcelona, Spain, causing the aircraft to divert to Limoges – Bellegarde Airport (LIG) near Limoges, France.
Some passengers, including British Arctic explorer Pen Hadow, who was on the flight, complained that their masks were not functioning.
Loss of cabin pressure forces Ryanair fligth to divert

Ryanair – Dublin – 2011
emergency descent
Ryanair flight FR-449, a scheduled service between Liverpool and Dublin, was flying at a height of 18,000 feet when the flight crew initiated the emergency descent. The flight was about 55 miles east of Dublin when the crew declared an emergency. The crew carried out a “controlled descent” to 10,000ft, initially reporting problems with cabin pressure. The flight was then cleared to descend to 6,000ft, where the crew entered a holding pattern for about 20 minutes. The AAIU has confirmed that: “an investigation is under way.”
Investigators probe emergency descent by Ryanair flight

Ryanair – Dublin – 2011
engine damage
The crew of a Ryanair flight failed to realise that the left engine had touched the runway when landing at Dublin airport, a report by the Air Accident Investigation Unit has found.
The damage caused to the left engine nacelle (cover) went unnoticed for two subsequent flights, the report found. However, the damage was minor and there were no injuries.
Ryanair crew failed to notice damage

Ryanair – Skavsta – 2011
instrument failure
A Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-DAD performing flight FR-950 from Stockholm Skavsta (Sweden) to Paris-Beauvais (France) with 173 passengers, experienced the failure of a number of instruments shortly after takeoff, the transponder did not transmit any valid altitude data, too. The crew decided to return to Stockholm’s Skavsta Airport and landed safely about one hour after departure.
Ryanair B738 near Stockholm on Apr 25th 2011, instrument failure

Ryanair – Charleroi – 2011
tyre blown
On Saturday Marh 19th, a Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-EFZ performing flight FR-6443 from Fuerteventura,CI (Spain) to Brussels Charleroi (Belgium) with 170 passengers, burst a tyre on takeoff from Fuerteventura but continued the flight to Brussels Charleroi Airport, where the crew declared emergency on approach. The airplane continued for a safe landing on Charleroi’s runway 07 about 5 hours after departure from the Canary Islands.
Ryanair B738 at Fuerteventura and Brussels on Mar 19th 2011, blew tyre on takeoff

Ryanair – Compostella – 2011
On Feb 20th 2011, A Ryanair B737-8 flying from Madrid had to perform an emergency landing in Compostella Lavacolla after suffering damages while flying through a heavy storm. The plane will remain on the airport until technicians are sent from London to repair it.
Un avión lleva 3 días ‘tirado’ tras ser alcanzado por un rayo al aterrizar

Analizzando un po il tutto..(questi sono i piu salienti) non noti molte cose ricorrenti??
Tutti sbagliamo...ma qui è ricorrente molto spesso vedo!
sbagliare procedure di avvicinamento, non seguire le indicazioni sulle vie di rullaggio, atterrare su TWY anzichè sulla RWY, atterrare senza clearance,atterrare toccando un motore senza nemmeno accorgersene!!

Comunque sembra anche che Ryan non stia simpatica nemmeno alla meteo e ai volatili d'Europa o siete voi che andate a cercarvele!..o forse dovete per non perder tempo e partire on time!
ah altra cosa...sembra che ultimamente anche la MANUTENZIONE abbia dei piccoli problemi!
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Meglio disoccupato che pagare 27k e perdere la dignità diventando schiavo di un'azienda che pensa agli esseri umani come una fabbrica di soldatini che non possono pensare e devono eseguire con fretta e sotto pressione a discapito della sicurezza.
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Ecco l'ennesima crociata contro Ryan, francamente mi ricorda la storia della volpe che non arriva all'uva....

FR non è la migliore compagnia del mondo, neanche la peggiore...se non ti stanno bene le condizioni nessuno ti obbliga ad andarci.
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Bendix, mi sembra tu stia perdendo parecchio punti con questa tua ossessione con Ryanair(e Pilotryan)

Nessuno ti obbliga ad andarci.

Ognuno fa le proprie scelte

P.S. è facilissimo fare una lista di problemi simile alla tua per qualsiasi compagnia.
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bedix84,

hai fatto un elenco e sei arrivato a conclusioni degne dei migliori giornalisti di novella 2000.
Se mi metto io a fare un'analisi come la tua del ultimo paio d'anni di Air France dovrei arrivare ad una conclusione da black list, invece io sono un professionista e mi attengo ai risultati ed alle raccomandazioni delle inchieste ufficiali e non traggo conclusioni da opinionisti o blogger.
Ma certe cose le imparerai solo quando e se mai ci arriverai ad essere un pilota professionista.
P.S.: io qui ci lavoro da qualche anno e schiavo non mi sono mai sentito, nonstante ci siano problematiche da risolvere come in ogni altra realta' aeronautica. Schiava, quindi, dillo a tua sorella.
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Evviva i piloti professionisti!
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facciamo un applauso tutti insieme al pilota professionista

Certo che in Ryan davvero ti esaltano di piu che nei Parà della Folgore
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Billy,
nella Folgore ci sono stato per 20 anni...non ti esaltano cosi credimi
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certo che voi di argomenti tecnico/professionistici zero eh?
Applausi, folgore, link da wikipedia e tante altre interessantissime questioni professionali
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no caro ti stiamo solamente prendendo un po per il kulo visto che sei un soggetto talmente esaltato e arrogante dal tuo essere superiore che è inutile parlare di argomenti professionali....... te ne sapresti sicuramente piu di noi
Bacio le mani sua santità
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In FR siamo abituati ad essere presi di mira, la cosa non ci tocca + di tanto.
Quando avrai finito di prendere per il kulo mi piacerebbe sentire un tuo commento sull'argomento di apertura di questa discussione.
Altrimenti possiamo continuare con la chiacchierata da bar.
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Scusa pilotaryan,
vorrei davvero fare un commento su quello che era il thread iniziale, ma dato che volo solo un Caravan e non ho neanche 1000 total, mi astengo da commenti e opinioni. Quando avrò il type rating sullo Space Shuttle (tra l'altro andato in pensione), 1000 ore on type da aggiungere alle mie restanti 35mila forse potrò confrontarmi allo stesso livello..

Fino ad allora me ne starò zitto e buono, dato che non volando su un multi jet sopra le 12 tonnellate credo non possa nemmeno essere annoverato tra i 'piloti professionisti', nonostante venga pagato per volare e i miei check semestrali li faccio anche io.
Perdonate l'intrusione nell'olimpo, giuro che rimarrò schiscio e in disparte fino a che non avrò le qualifiche sopra citate.
Happy Landings a tutti
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ingdisa,
avevi l'opportunita' di fare un commento da dulto ed invece hai aggiunto l'ennesima bambinata alla lunga lista di minkiate.
Per me possiamo pure continuare cosi.
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Ciao Ingdisa
Auguroni a tutti voi laggiu'
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