Luton is likely to be internal only for a while yet.

How could internal transferees get permission to work in the UK? (unless they happened to have a British passport). I doubt there are many Brits in the company who are currently based away from the UK.

It's not really hard to come over to the UK if your employer is sponsoring you for that position or you have a job offer.

Well it should be hard, for as long as there are unemployed pilots in the UK (irrespective of whether they are rated or not). A standard condition of granting a work permit, is that the worker cannot be sourced from the domestic market (even if they need type training). All unemployed pilots should be onto the DWP and home office and nip this in the bud; I do hope balpa are on the case (some chance)!

Check the UK point based immigration system. It's quite easy .

If you don't like it, call BoJo.

Maybe, but ""airline pilot" is not on the list of shortage workers (although it is on the list of skilled workers). That's not a complete stopper, but wizz would have to be a licensed sponsor, pilot would have to be > RQF3, and wizz would have to pay more than £60,800 to make it eligible.

You have either the Tier 2 Skilled for permanent crew, or the Intra-company transfer, which would allow a transfer from WZZ to WUK for up to 9 years. That's more than enough to sort mid-term crewing issues.

Yes, I do agree it looks easier than I had imagined (I thought airline pilot wasn't on the skilled worker list (formerly tier 2), and a transfer is also a work around). I think Brits looking for work will be well aware how easy, or NOT!, it is to find a job in the EU without an EU passport. (I applied for an internal transfer within my company to the EU, and was told it couldn't even be considered without an EU passport). Post Brexit, I have seen quite a few job adverts for UK positions open to EU passport holders, but precisely zero EU positions advertised as open to UK passport holders. What with useless UK licences, an unequal wet leasing Brexit deal, devastated airlines, confined to domestic recruitment and continuation of EU nationals being hired or transferred into UK based seats, I really feel for unemployed British pilots; they're in a lose/lose scenario

It's not quite as simple as this, it would be on an hour rate, which if Wizz were to guarantee would make even a F/O position eligible, based on 650km/h, average base to base of 7 hours, flight time of 5 hours and 10 hours of recurrent training every 6 months. The £60,800 is of course valid for a 39 hour week (2028 hour year with 218 hours, 12 minutes of paid leave).

i completely agree with you at the moment (but may or may not in better times depending on the contracts on offer), but am merely pointing out how it is. Equally if you want an EU base, the same visas paired with a sponsor could help you with this, as the EU isn't actually that difficult to get to either for work visas, especially highly paid skilled workers, it simply becomes a bigger problem if you're sent out of base for extended periods due to the work visa being a national visa, not a Schengen-wide one.

The UK is not being treated realistically any differently from Moldova, Georgia etc in this regard.

What are the chances of getting a Gatwick base with this lot? That's the only way I'd dream of taking up an offer from them. What's their employers pension contribution? Any private healthcare/LOL/DIS/travel benefits etc in addition to the £18k pa salary paid to First Officers?

de fumo in flammam

And which company are you with?

Did British nationals not vote for this? I voted Remain (and this isn't the forum to discuss this, I have UK/EU dual nationality so am not affected by this), but you cannot leave the EU and expect to have the same benefits as before. If you want EU job, that's fine, but you won't be looking at most LCCs for this, some legacies may consider it, but expect to leave as an experienced SFO with an EU passport if going down this route.

Blame the British government, as the preferred option of Guy Verhofstadt (which I hold in e-mail form) was for the UK to remain in the single market, but this was refused due to the free movement 'red line', and therefore the choice to strip you of your rights was a British government decision, not one of the EU.

carbheatout

It's not what the company can do or offer for you, it's what you can do for the company....

We're talking about Wizzair here and £18k basic a year. Not a legacy carrier.

We are talking about what their approach is towards their employees. Don't be a bad apple. :)

Let nobody enlist for an interview and you will see HR desperately calling you to offer a slot....

That won't put food on the table for a long time though.

I wish they wouldn't call anyone from the outside before all the 265 pilots get their jobs back...

Everybody who went to the interview in August 2020 received the job offer more than a month ago. They didn't call anyone from the outside before the ex-employees were offered positions.

Not entirely true. At least 100 of the "bad apples" were never called back for an interview last September nor since.

The red list.