FutureCommander

I'm in the exact same position, with the online assessment passed on February and now that I've just received the email, wondering the same. I don't think anyone is willing to pay 30k for not having any guarantees of being hired by ryr. I hope someone can help us clarifying this.

Detrol5

presumably you will be provided with Ts&Cs prior to paying that large a sum and it would be set out there.

PilotLZ

The thing is that RYR is also the airline that everybody loves to hate. It's RYR, it has to be bad.


The guy survived Qatar, not Ryanair, but the host is so clearly biased and he makes it very clear in the interview itself.

Detrol5

No job is guaranteed at the end of the course. It's subject to business demand which at the moment equals zero. This is just a ploy from Ryr to get build up some cash and reserves. Don't be fooled.

Everyone seem to have forgotten the timeline in the initial advertisement. And that is - training starting in the summer of 2021, aiming for the planned summer 2022 expansion. Nobody is offering anything right now. You're looking at a timeline of 12-18 months total. Mind it, this wasn't uncommon even during far more successful years. The whole process of application, assessment, type rating, base training and line training took over a year for many applicants.

They were told Spring 2021 and payment is needed then. It's very risky with all things considered. Again, there's zero guarantee of any full time job with Ryanair after line training.

The only way to do it is with the 30K up-front? there is no bond over a period? and also in the ryanair program says:
Phase 4: Base and Line Training

• After successful completion of the training qualification course, circuits will be flown on a Ryanair B737-800
• Line training will take place from one of our many bases. The number of sectors required to complete Line Training varies with the experience level of the pilot.

So they will wait until you finish the Line Training and after that the fire you?

Usually not - then your training contract gets terminated and you get a new contract. At least that's been their way for the last few years.

Detrol5

There is no bond because they don't want pilots they want money. And I have more than enough reason to believe that there is no job attached to this. It is a future expansion which can be delayed and maybe not even materialize. Why would they risk putting you in a job contract when everyone is more than happy to bear the costs entirely on their own.

Just ask the plenty of guys now on the street since they are on self-employed contracts by a single employer, services not needed.

If it can happen to people that were working and their bonds essentially written off don't think it can't happen to anyone that joins and are straight up paying for training only.

New assessment info
 

Hi everyone,
just a single question: do anyone of you know what is the new assessment mentioned in AFA email?

Thanks in advance!

Hi,
I only received a form to fill out from AFA but nothing related to the new assessment, did you receive something else ?

well... there’s written in the email... at least... in mine there’s written that after filling the form they’ll invite me for a new assessment

I think it’s an assessment based on common sense. Those without it will be accepted with open arms.

However in my case, I've already did once and passed it, but they say I need to do a new one, it will be the same, or just some specific parts?

You just need to read the email again properly and you’ll have your answer.

Hi guys, how long after the AFA application did you receive the email?

For me it took 2 months following my application

FlyingGreek

It said a further online assessment, don't mention anything just with free cost, the thing is a further assessment about what? what it's included

Just study and get ready for whatever they might throw at you. Do you want to get in the sim for the rest of your career every 6 months already knowing the script?

Come on, guys.

If you guys check the regulation reference regarding this further assessment (something we learnt during the ATPLs.), you will see that it's a psychological assessment. Nothing more. Everyone at every stage of the selection (from the beginning of the process to already selected candidates) got this information about this assessment. It's regulation related and to me it has nothing to do with a new selection aiming at getting people out of the system.