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I also got a AQC invitation which I declined.. they are a bunch of b*******
Almost 10k€ (i think it's close to 10k now?) for a MCC+JOC and "placement".
From what I read, there is no placement with any airline if you are a non-CTC candidate is that correct? (with non-CTC i mean you have not done your whole training at CTC).
OK and then, something i didn't know... you stay on the holding pool for 2 years whilst CTC cadets get interviews and you wait for your turn, and after 2 years if you were not lucky to get an interview they just kick your ass? haha what a joke.
A final question someone can answer, if you are on the holding pool.. you sign some kind of loyalty to them? that is you can not get/search anywhere else because you are on the AQC holding pool or you can? I ask because this kind of 'loyalty' contracts are sometimes weird, maybe it's a stupid question as i suppose you can search elsewhere as much as you want while you are on the AQC pool but i needed to ask.
Knew a mate who was on the pool, he was waiting for 2 years, don't know what happened to them.. i'm curious if he got his ass kicked-off the pool.
CTC only wants (your) moooooooooney.
Almost 10k€ (i think it's close to 10k now?) for a MCC+JOC and "placement".
From what I read, there is no placement with any airline if you are a non-CTC candidate is that correct? (with non-CTC i mean you have not done your whole training at CTC).
OK and then, something i didn't know... you stay on the holding pool for 2 years whilst CTC cadets get interviews and you wait for your turn, and after 2 years if you were not lucky to get an interview they just kick your ass? haha what a joke.
A final question someone can answer, if you are on the holding pool.. you sign some kind of loyalty to them? that is you can not get/search anywhere else because you are on the AQC holding pool or you can? I ask because this kind of 'loyalty' contracts are sometimes weird, maybe it's a stupid question as i suppose you can search elsewhere as much as you want while you are on the AQC pool but i needed to ask.
Knew a mate who was on the pool, he was waiting for 2 years, don't know what happened to them.. i'm curious if he got his ass kicked-off the pool.
CTC only wants (your) moooooooooney.
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Attended the course not so long ago.
Been offered two airlines so far, with more coming up some time (hopefully) soon. Fair amount of ATPs placed with EZY or other carriers. All the holding pools are expected to be near empty by the end of the year, if not before.
If you want my opinion, worth it.
Been offered two airlines so far, with more coming up some time (hopefully) soon. Fair amount of ATPs placed with EZY or other carriers. All the holding pools are expected to be near empty by the end of the year, if not before.
If you want my opinion, worth it.
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Well there appears to be some positive news here about the course so I contacted my friend who has been in the "pool" for ~3 years.
Her perception is somewhat different to the other recent posters.
She has been told that the ATP program will most likely close again soon as CTC have way too many ATPers and even normal Wings cadets and won't be able to place them.
The reason it was opened again was due to the Ryanair partnership which CTC anticipated would empty both pools quite quickly.....this has not happened. In fact far from it. Most Wings cadets are turning Ryanair down and a lot of the ATPers have already attempted an interview with Ryanair or also turned them down.
She has heard a few more CTC modular guys (these are the Wing Take-Off folks) have been sent to easyJet but doesn't know of a single standard ATP person getting an invite. Basically she has been offered the opportunity to send her "interest" into CTC for the Ryanair or flybe programs and that is it. Unfortunately she couldn't apply for Ryanair again and has been waiting to hear back about flybe since last year.....without any update.
On the plus side she does know a few ATP guys getting into Ryanair this year. A bit of an expensive way to get an interview which you can get yourself anyway!
@flyingbonnet. My friend is very interested in your situation as she has always been told you can only go for one airline at a time and all other applications would be cancelled or put on hold at that time. Are you saying that you have been offered 2 jobs (i.e. successful at interview and have contract in hand)? Or have (like her) you been offered the opportunity to register your "interest" in these airlines...quite different?
Her perception is somewhat different to the other recent posters.
She has been told that the ATP program will most likely close again soon as CTC have way too many ATPers and even normal Wings cadets and won't be able to place them.
The reason it was opened again was due to the Ryanair partnership which CTC anticipated would empty both pools quite quickly.....this has not happened. In fact far from it. Most Wings cadets are turning Ryanair down and a lot of the ATPers have already attempted an interview with Ryanair or also turned them down.
She has heard a few more CTC modular guys (these are the Wing Take-Off folks) have been sent to easyJet but doesn't know of a single standard ATP person getting an invite. Basically she has been offered the opportunity to send her "interest" into CTC for the Ryanair or flybe programs and that is it. Unfortunately she couldn't apply for Ryanair again and has been waiting to hear back about flybe since last year.....without any update.
On the plus side she does know a few ATP guys getting into Ryanair this year. A bit of an expensive way to get an interview which you can get yourself anyway!
@flyingbonnet. My friend is very interested in your situation as she has always been told you can only go for one airline at a time and all other applications would be cancelled or put on hold at that time. Are you saying that you have been offered 2 jobs (i.e. successful at interview and have contract in hand)? Or have (like her) you been offered the opportunity to register your "interest" in these airlines...quite different?
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I can validate what John Dexter's friend has stated. Just invitation for expression of interest for Flybe and Ryanair as far as ATP are concerned. Been in the "database" 5 years now.
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I suppose you did not understood my words, @john_smith
I'm just giving AN ADVISE for anyone thinking about going for the AQC Course so they can know before hand what they will face if they choose to go. Not moaning about nothing, just posting my opinion by real experiences.
I'm just posting some information i know from fellow pilots colleagues who have gone through this course in the past, not whining and moaning about it, OK?.
And as far as I know, I know at least 2 guys who did the AQC and are still waiting on the pool, and there a lot of people on this thread posting their personal experience about the AQC course, there's a lot of example of people that have been waiting 3, 4 or 5 years in the holding pool. So that's only TRUE information by real experiences about this scheme, which by the way it's the REAL TRUTH, no the "truth" the CTC sales folk will tell you before enrolling about getting a job in a short period after finishing the AQC (not true).
If you have completed the AQC and have already a job in the airlines who work with CTC, then good for you, but it's not the general trend.
I'm just giving AN ADVISE for anyone thinking about going for the AQC Course so they can know before hand what they will face if they choose to go. Not moaning about nothing, just posting my opinion by real experiences.
I'm just posting some information i know from fellow pilots colleagues who have gone through this course in the past, not whining and moaning about it, OK?.
And as far as I know, I know at least 2 guys who did the AQC and are still waiting on the pool, and there a lot of people on this thread posting their personal experience about the AQC course, there's a lot of example of people that have been waiting 3, 4 or 5 years in the holding pool. So that's only TRUE information by real experiences about this scheme, which by the way it's the REAL TRUTH, no the "truth" the CTC sales folk will tell you before enrolling about getting a job in a short period after finishing the AQC (not true).
If you have completed the AQC and have already a job in the airlines who work with CTC, then good for you, but it's not the general trend.
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Hi Guys, Ive read most of the last post about the CTC ATP scheme.
I am attending the assessment (the step before AQC) on 16th of July. Is there anybody else going? And is there anybody who can tell my something about it? I have no idea what will happen....
Thanks.
I am attending the assessment (the step before AQC) on 16th of July. Is there anybody else going? And is there anybody who can tell my something about it? I have no idea what will happen....
Thanks.
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Hey folks did any ATP swimmers attend the presentation yesterday by David Froggatt from easyJet down at CTC?
Would love to know his take on the hiring potential in the near future.
Would appreciate any info from ATP or Wings guys/gals.
Cheers
Would love to know his take on the hiring potential in the near future.
Would appreciate any info from ATP or Wings guys/gals.
Cheers
easyJet
Hey folks did any ATP swimmers attend the presentation yesterday by David Froggatt from easyJet down at CTC?
Would love to know his take on the hiring potential in the near future.
Would appreciate any info from ATP or Wings guys/gals.
Cheers
Would love to know his take on the hiring potential in the near future.
Would appreciate any info from ATP or Wings guys/gals.
Cheers
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( very slightly off topic but..)
I've just finished the GroundSchool with a > 90% average and am currently looking for training providers for the ( Modular) CPL/ME/IR & JOC/MCC
CTC do see to have that advantage regarding the FlexiCrew Pool and their relationship with Easyjet, a company I'm seriously interested in working for.
However... I'm 40 years old.....
Does anyone know if this is a well know show stopper for EZY ? If anyone has any concrete examples in either direction, it would be greatly appreciated !
Many thanks
I've just finished the GroundSchool with a > 90% average and am currently looking for training providers for the ( Modular) CPL/ME/IR & JOC/MCC
CTC do see to have that advantage regarding the FlexiCrew Pool and their relationship with Easyjet, a company I'm seriously interested in working for.
However... I'm 40 years old.....
Does anyone know if this is a well know show stopper for EZY ? If anyone has any concrete examples in either direction, it would be greatly appreciated !
Many thanks
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I wouldn't let your age deter you too much. I often see fellow two stripers late 30s/early 40s who are doing training. They're very much the minority however they certainly don't seem to have a cut off. What I don't know however is if they're direct entry experienced FOs.
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Hi guys, I've received invitation from CTC but don't know what to expect.
Someone had been there for the selection as a qualified pilot ?
If yes, I would love to have your feedback .
I've read all the comments about the holding pool etc... so sad to hear that !
Be positive guys ! the career will come to you soon.
Someone had been there for the selection as a qualified pilot ?
If yes, I would love to have your feedback .
I've read all the comments about the holding pool etc... so sad to hear that !
Be positive guys ! the career will come to you soon.
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Anyone else going to the assessment on December 14th?
As a frozen ATPL holder I feel reluctant as most would after reading some of these posts, but then again, how would you feel if you had the chance and you didn't even try?!
Truth of the matter is, there aren't many training organisations working directly with aviation companies and providing placement for its students even if it is 2,3 or even 5 years after. At some point you have to face the fact that nowadays if you want to make a living flying you have to pay first...unless your father is a captain somewhere or you're married to the company's CEO's daughter...
That being said, after a year of emailing and delivering CVs personally (+1000 sent is not an exaggeration) on most aviation companies on a 1000km radius I'm going to try my luck at CTC's flexicrew scheme...solid FTO with actual proven results however expensive it is...
As a frozen ATPL holder I feel reluctant as most would after reading some of these posts, but then again, how would you feel if you had the chance and you didn't even try?!
Truth of the matter is, there aren't many training organisations working directly with aviation companies and providing placement for its students even if it is 2,3 or even 5 years after. At some point you have to face the fact that nowadays if you want to make a living flying you have to pay first...unless your father is a captain somewhere or you're married to the company's CEO's daughter...
That being said, after a year of emailing and delivering CVs personally (+1000 sent is not an exaggeration) on most aviation companies on a 1000km radius I'm going to try my luck at CTC's flexicrew scheme...solid FTO with actual proven results however expensive it is...
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The problem in this Forum is : When somebody needs to complain about no jobs P2fly, time to loose, here he comes "bla bla bla, i got time to loose"
But when they find jobs, nobody come to testimony about schools and some programs
that's a pity
But when they find jobs, nobody come to testimony about schools and some programs
that's a pity
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Books to prepare CTC
Hi everyone,
From what I have understood during the interviews we can be tested on our aeronautical general knowledge.
Would you have any book you would recommend? (for basics knowledge)
Thank you very much in advance.
From what I have understood during the interviews we can be tested on our aeronautical general knowledge.
Would you have any book you would recommend? (for basics knowledge)
Thank you very much in advance.