CTC McAlpine/easyJet/JMC Sponsorship Selection
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Airlines signed up to the CTC Cadet scheme
Currently on the website only EasyJet and Thomas Cook are signed up to the CTC McAlpine Cadet scheme, as has been the case for the last year. With CTC starting a new course of 6 pilots every month, does anyone know if there any other airlines taking CTC Cadets?
Thomas Cook can't require that many Pilots, and EasyJet can't keep taking 6 new pilots a month despite their expansion plans. In the UK most of the main carriers have their own schemes (BY, BA, BMI, FlyBe).
Does anyone know anything more?
Thomas Cook can't require that many Pilots, and EasyJet can't keep taking 6 new pilots a month despite their expansion plans. In the UK most of the main carriers have their own schemes (BY, BA, BMI, FlyBe).
Does anyone know anything more?
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I was wondering just this question. How can one principle airline with one smaller airline, take in over 70 cadets a year, once everyone starts to graduate?
Perhaps they planned it expecting a lot more airlines to join, when so far they have not....
Perhaps they planned it expecting a lot more airlines to join, when so far they have not....
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Hi
This is my first post on Pprune, I heard about this website first at CTC, and now Ive got onto it, I thought I would pass my story on.
Being a 22 year old male, with a pretty poor set of A-Level results, and no degree, I never hoped that I would even get past the initial application process with CTC. But, made it through the form alright, did the written questions with my abilities (yes - i do have some, honestly!) and made it down to Stage 2 at Dibden.
Fantastic day there, the guys at CTC were amazing by sorting me out with accommodation in the Lyndhurst Park Hotel (paid for by me though) and I was sorted a lift there in the morning with a 733 pilot who was undergoing his training onto the a/c for EZY. (Talked to him about the first 319 that was received at LGW that weekend, he would never fly them he says!).
Been reading a few experiences about the tests, brought back some memories - was quite embarrassed myself though because I had finished everything about 20-30 min before everyone else, thought I had missed a part out! Long Lunch for me then - Corned Beef Hash, anyone remember that one? I think I was the only person who ate it all!!!
So, got the train back up to Sunny Newcastle, to get my e-mail, which said I was successful - so another sh*tload of cash to GNER and SW Trains later, I was back in Southampton, at the lovely Lyndhurst Park Hotel for the group work, and interviews.
That last word - Interview, I know that that is what let me down, as it was even commented by Mary and the Chief Pilot (I do forget his name) that my team work skills were good, so I knew it wasnt that.
So, for the question I was asked, what would you do as a new F/O with an overbearing captain, I think I got that one very wrong as I said I would make a decision how to react with him to maintain Flight Safety - not wanting another Tenerife so I said.
Anyways, will re-apply, should ring Mary n Sue to find out more about what went wrong.
All good fun though!
This is my first post on Pprune, I heard about this website first at CTC, and now Ive got onto it, I thought I would pass my story on.
Being a 22 year old male, with a pretty poor set of A-Level results, and no degree, I never hoped that I would even get past the initial application process with CTC. But, made it through the form alright, did the written questions with my abilities (yes - i do have some, honestly!) and made it down to Stage 2 at Dibden.
Fantastic day there, the guys at CTC were amazing by sorting me out with accommodation in the Lyndhurst Park Hotel (paid for by me though) and I was sorted a lift there in the morning with a 733 pilot who was undergoing his training onto the a/c for EZY. (Talked to him about the first 319 that was received at LGW that weekend, he would never fly them he says!).
Been reading a few experiences about the tests, brought back some memories - was quite embarrassed myself though because I had finished everything about 20-30 min before everyone else, thought I had missed a part out! Long Lunch for me then - Corned Beef Hash, anyone remember that one? I think I was the only person who ate it all!!!
So, got the train back up to Sunny Newcastle, to get my e-mail, which said I was successful - so another sh*tload of cash to GNER and SW Trains later, I was back in Southampton, at the lovely Lyndhurst Park Hotel for the group work, and interviews.
That last word - Interview, I know that that is what let me down, as it was even commented by Mary and the Chief Pilot (I do forget his name) that my team work skills were good, so I knew it wasnt that.
So, for the question I was asked, what would you do as a new F/O with an overbearing captain, I think I got that one very wrong as I said I would make a decision how to react with him to maintain Flight Safety - not wanting another Tenerife so I said.
Anyways, will re-apply, should ring Mary n Sue to find out more about what went wrong.
All good fun though!
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Well done for making it that far david! I don't have the strongest application either but have been invited for stage 2. Not looking forward to the numeracy test. How hard are the tests?
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Hi Sally, good job getting onto SII
Now is my time to comment on the numeracy tests, without sounding like I am blowing my own trumpet too much.
I've got a good head for numerical mathematics, and all the mental arithmetic involved, so I found the Numercial testing rather easy. For what I recall (it was last September...) they mainly involved calculations using the four standard operators (multiply, divide, add and subtract), on 25 (I think!) questions, starting out rather basic, before getting more abstract, including the previously mentioned Celsius/Farenheit Conversion (Try using the scrap paper, and drawing something - that helps a lot)
Anyways, just keep your cool, as there is really no preparation you can take for any of these tests. I went there with some idea of what to expect, going through Cranwell when I was 16 when again the interview let me down. But aptitude is not something which can be learned by "rote", by definition it is your pre-determined ability for something - you have it or you dont (another thing I gleaned from Cranwell)
Now it is my turn to request - does anyone have any hints or tips on how to act/respond best in an interview, because I did not have a great one down there.
Thanks all!
David
Now is my time to comment on the numeracy tests, without sounding like I am blowing my own trumpet too much.
I've got a good head for numerical mathematics, and all the mental arithmetic involved, so I found the Numercial testing rather easy. For what I recall (it was last September...) they mainly involved calculations using the four standard operators (multiply, divide, add and subtract), on 25 (I think!) questions, starting out rather basic, before getting more abstract, including the previously mentioned Celsius/Farenheit Conversion (Try using the scrap paper, and drawing something - that helps a lot)
Anyways, just keep your cool, as there is really no preparation you can take for any of these tests. I went there with some idea of what to expect, going through Cranwell when I was 16 when again the interview let me down. But aptitude is not something which can be learned by "rote", by definition it is your pre-determined ability for something - you have it or you dont (another thing I gleaned from Cranwell)
Now it is my turn to request - does anyone have any hints or tips on how to act/respond best in an interview, because I did not have a great one down there.
Thanks all!
David
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Sally?!? Lol, im not even female. Thanks for the advice on the numeracy test. What are the other tests like? How many people are in each group discussion and how long does the discussion last for? Sorry to keep asking questions.
As for interviews I guess unlike the tests they are somthing that you can practice and prepare for. Have a look on the net there's loads of handy sites with hints and tips. Think about the kinds of questions they'll ask you and how you'll respond.
As for interviews I guess unlike the tests they are somthing that you can practice and prepare for. Have a look on the net there's loads of handy sites with hints and tips. Think about the kinds of questions they'll ask you and how you'll respond.
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Well, as I had said, most of the tests are all self-explanatory and good fun (well I thought so!!!)
The Group Discussions are a different kettle of fish, as they do require you to make a lot of input, basically if you say nothing you are out of the programme. Wont go into too much detail, might not get back in with them myself if I reveal too many of their trade secrets before you get there!!!
Honestly, all the time I spent with CTC was great fun, even if the result was heart-breaking (yes, I want to be a Pilot and full Ppruner that much), so just relax, look forward to it, and put in your input, ask questions, whatever you need, they will most likely help you with.
David
The Group Discussions are a different kettle of fish, as they do require you to make a lot of input, basically if you say nothing you are out of the programme. Wont go into too much detail, might not get back in with them myself if I reveal too many of their trade secrets before you get there!!!
Honestly, all the time I spent with CTC was great fun, even if the result was heart-breaking (yes, I want to be a Pilot and full Ppruner that much), so just relax, look forward to it, and put in your input, ask questions, whatever you need, they will most likely help you with.
David
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DavidFuturePilot:
did he say why he would not fly an airbus because im guessing that most of the easy cadets will be going onto the airbus as easyjet have a 120 on order!!!
733 pilot who was undergoing his training onto the a/c for EZY. (Talked to him about the first 319 that was received at LGW that weekend, he would never fly them he says!).
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Don't underestimate Stage 1!
Hey guys,
It's been a while since I posted anything on the PPRuNe forums, but I haven't forgotton about this place!
I applied for selection on CTC-McAlpine's cadetship in May last year and (thanks to my own corporate cynicism) completely underestimated the effort required to succeed at stage 1a.
I assumed that CTC were cramming as many people into Stage 2 as they possibly could in order to make a lot of money (£164 a pop, go figure)... I was very wrong.
Assuming I could put little effort into my form and thinking Stage 1 was "in the bag" was a hugely disasterous plan.
Obviously, I shouldn't have assumed anything. Full stop.
Anyway, I've been in contact with Mary and she might let me re-apply in 3 months time.... 12 months after my original application.
So remember, guys, do your research thoroughly and really concentrate hard on success at Stage 1 - lay the foundations for how you want to proceed, and hopefully succeed.
Hope this helps,
Craig.
It's been a while since I posted anything on the PPRuNe forums, but I haven't forgotton about this place!
I applied for selection on CTC-McAlpine's cadetship in May last year and (thanks to my own corporate cynicism) completely underestimated the effort required to succeed at stage 1a.
I assumed that CTC were cramming as many people into Stage 2 as they possibly could in order to make a lot of money (£164 a pop, go figure)... I was very wrong.
Assuming I could put little effort into my form and thinking Stage 1 was "in the bag" was a hugely disasterous plan.
Obviously, I shouldn't have assumed anything. Full stop.
Anyway, I've been in contact with Mary and she might let me re-apply in 3 months time.... 12 months after my original application.
So remember, guys, do your research thoroughly and really concentrate hard on success at Stage 1 - lay the foundations for how you want to proceed, and hopefully succeed.
Hope this helps,
Craig.
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I did think that most EZY cadets would be going to the 319, but this pilot was of many years experience (SQ744/772/773 etc) and he was going in as a 737 F/O since CTC do the type rating training for EZY aswell as the cadetships.
Hope that clears it up a bit!
David
Hope that clears it up a bit!
David
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well it seems like that pilot is a boeing fan dont blame him really,
there nothing wrong with airbus except that it is very automated and boeings involve alot more raw flying which would be better in the early stages of a career, not that i would complain if i got through. Cheers anyway!!!
there nothing wrong with airbus except that it is very automated and boeings involve alot more raw flying which would be better in the early stages of a career, not that i would complain if i got through. Cheers anyway!!!
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Hi all
Sorry if this is a bit off the thread.
I'm asking for advice really. I'm deciding what to do when I leave school. I don't really want to go to uni as spending 4 years doing a degree that will only lead to me leaving with at least 10K debt and qualifications for a job I really wouldn't want to do seems a bit of a waste of time.
At the moment I can find funding to do pilot training (up to fATPL). Something I probably couldn't do after leaving uni. However, I don't know if the airlines would really look at me without any degree, and being only around 19-20 years old. I may take one year out, however any longer and you have the old problem of being out of the way of learningand it's harder to get back into.
I should say I do currently have my PPL and a really could set of exam results. But I don't know if this will be enough to carry me through.
Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Sorry if this is a bit off the thread.
I'm asking for advice really. I'm deciding what to do when I leave school. I don't really want to go to uni as spending 4 years doing a degree that will only lead to me leaving with at least 10K debt and qualifications for a job I really wouldn't want to do seems a bit of a waste of time.
At the moment I can find funding to do pilot training (up to fATPL). Something I probably couldn't do after leaving uni. However, I don't know if the airlines would really look at me without any degree, and being only around 19-20 years old. I may take one year out, however any longer and you have the old problem of being out of the way of learningand it's harder to get back into.
I should say I do currently have my PPL and a really could set of exam results. But I don't know if this will be enough to carry me through.
Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
From what I can see, advice is one of the reasons this forum exists, so no worries about being off-topic.
It sounds to me as if the CTC McAlpine scheme could be for you, in so far as you want to be an airline pilot and don't particularly want to go and do the whole Uni thing (I was in a similar position, though I should mention that I thoroughly enjoyed the time I was at Uni).
You said that "a degree that will only lead to me leaving with at least 10K debt and qualifications for a job I really wouldn't want to do seems a bit of a waste of time". I suppose this is true on the face of things, but I think you would be gaining in life experience and growing as a person more than wasting 4 years. Like I said, this is pure speculation.
From what I know, I think you need to be a reasonably well-rounded individual (not necessarily with a degree, though 4 years at Uni could arguably be what makes some people well-rounded individuals) who shows dedication in what they do - a 'go-getter', if you like. Certainly that over a 'I can't be bothered, gimme the easy route' attitude - again, I'm not talking about you as I don't know you, I'm just speaking in general :-)
A PPL is one way of proving commitment, incidentally, but no single thing assures you of success, the whole package counts.
If you can avoid funding the fATPL I would, though not for the obvious financial reasons. Any flying school will happily sell you a fATPL course, and in terms of job prospects at the end that's pretty much all it proves (I'm deliberately putting that in black and white; it does show more as not everyone could succeed etc etc). So £XX,000 down the line worse off, you might be kicking yourself - worth considering all such possibilities anyway, even the harsh but potentially true ones.
That said, with real dedication and the right attitude I'm sure you won't encounter any insurmountable problems. And if you feel ready for CTC or any other sponsorship then go for it - and GOOD LUCK!
Rach
From what I can see, advice is one of the reasons this forum exists, so no worries about being off-topic.
It sounds to me as if the CTC McAlpine scheme could be for you, in so far as you want to be an airline pilot and don't particularly want to go and do the whole Uni thing (I was in a similar position, though I should mention that I thoroughly enjoyed the time I was at Uni).
You said that "a degree that will only lead to me leaving with at least 10K debt and qualifications for a job I really wouldn't want to do seems a bit of a waste of time". I suppose this is true on the face of things, but I think you would be gaining in life experience and growing as a person more than wasting 4 years. Like I said, this is pure speculation.
From what I know, I think you need to be a reasonably well-rounded individual (not necessarily with a degree, though 4 years at Uni could arguably be what makes some people well-rounded individuals) who shows dedication in what they do - a 'go-getter', if you like. Certainly that over a 'I can't be bothered, gimme the easy route' attitude - again, I'm not talking about you as I don't know you, I'm just speaking in general :-)
A PPL is one way of proving commitment, incidentally, but no single thing assures you of success, the whole package counts.
If you can avoid funding the fATPL I would, though not for the obvious financial reasons. Any flying school will happily sell you a fATPL course, and in terms of job prospects at the end that's pretty much all it proves (I'm deliberately putting that in black and white; it does show more as not everyone could succeed etc etc). So £XX,000 down the line worse off, you might be kicking yourself - worth considering all such possibilities anyway, even the harsh but potentially true ones.
That said, with real dedication and the right attitude I'm sure you won't encounter any insurmountable problems. And if you feel ready for CTC or any other sponsorship then go for it - and GOOD LUCK!
Rach
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Cloud 9,
I seriously advise that you go to university. You will have an amazing time. Thousands of piss-ups, lots of pretty girls to...do whatever you want with.
Brilliant. I love uni, but it is coming to a swift end, only a few months left. However I did do a degree which didnt teach me anything interesting, but I have matured a lot and had an excellent time. Make the most of your youth, is what I say. Don't grow up to fast.
You could also join a UAS and fly for free for a few years, plus have a good time and again loads of piss-ups with them.
Dont waste the uni opportunity, its fanatastic
I seriously advise that you go to university. You will have an amazing time. Thousands of piss-ups, lots of pretty girls to...do whatever you want with.
Brilliant. I love uni, but it is coming to a swift end, only a few months left. However I did do a degree which didnt teach me anything interesting, but I have matured a lot and had an excellent time. Make the most of your youth, is what I say. Don't grow up to fast.
You could also join a UAS and fly for free for a few years, plus have a good time and again loads of piss-ups with them.
Dont waste the uni opportunity, its fanatastic
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Hey all
Thought I'd finally post my first message!! Hi everyone!!
Well, it's been my ambition since I was about 5 to become a pilot. My first choice was the RAF, however at 16 I found my eyesight was JUST below standards and so couldn't get in!! I was devastated, but got my act together and made some plans. Since then I've worked as hard as possible to gain a high enough salary to put myself through university. It was hard because to get the degree done in a sensible time (3 years) I had to study and work full time. However I got through it and have just graduated with a 2:1. Whilst studying I saved enough to allow me to book my PPL on graduation, which I started 2 weeks ago. It's all booked and can't wait to get into it. I've got my first exam in a couple of weeks.
To get to the point of this post, being 25 I was running desperately short of time to apply for the CTC scheme. I managed to get my application off a few weeks ago, as soon as I found out what grade I got from uni. Anyway I've just received a reply to say I've passed the first stage!!! To say I'm chuffed is an understatement. I know a lot of people get through, but I'm happy!! After 8 years, things are starting to come together. If I don't get in to CTC I guess I'll have to fund training to fATPL myself, but the end result will be well worth it.
Sorry to ramble on peeps. I'll just add the advice on here is excellent and a great knowledge source. Thanks everyone
Thought I'd finally post my first message!! Hi everyone!!
Well, it's been my ambition since I was about 5 to become a pilot. My first choice was the RAF, however at 16 I found my eyesight was JUST below standards and so couldn't get in!! I was devastated, but got my act together and made some plans. Since then I've worked as hard as possible to gain a high enough salary to put myself through university. It was hard because to get the degree done in a sensible time (3 years) I had to study and work full time. However I got through it and have just graduated with a 2:1. Whilst studying I saved enough to allow me to book my PPL on graduation, which I started 2 weeks ago. It's all booked and can't wait to get into it. I've got my first exam in a couple of weeks.
To get to the point of this post, being 25 I was running desperately short of time to apply for the CTC scheme. I managed to get my application off a few weeks ago, as soon as I found out what grade I got from uni. Anyway I've just received a reply to say I've passed the first stage!!! To say I'm chuffed is an understatement. I know a lot of people get through, but I'm happy!! After 8 years, things are starting to come together. If I don't get in to CTC I guess I'll have to fund training to fATPL myself, but the end result will be well worth it.
Sorry to ramble on peeps. I'll just add the advice on here is excellent and a great knowledge source. Thanks everyone
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Well done on your 2:1, silentwitness.
I'm in the same boat, graduated and travelled for a bit and am now stashing away the pennies while applying for CTC and other fATPL schemes. Also 25, so don't want to miss the CTC boat!
Got my Class 1 last week so was pretty chuffed as I thought this could stop my dream dead in the water.
Sent off CTC part 1a today so hoping to get a stage 2 invitation soon. Maybe see you at the selection day?
Best of luck and welcome to Pprune.
K2
I'm in the same boat, graduated and travelled for a bit and am now stashing away the pennies while applying for CTC and other fATPL schemes. Also 25, so don't want to miss the CTC boat!
Got my Class 1 last week so was pretty chuffed as I thought this could stop my dream dead in the water.
Sent off CTC part 1a today so hoping to get a stage 2 invitation soon. Maybe see you at the selection day?
Best of luck and welcome to Pprune.
K2