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Old 5th Nov 2022, 12:00
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Originally Posted by A320LGW
You go onto the second officer contract. The pay depends on where youíre based and thereby what contract you are given. Anyway in the UK the second officer basic is £24,300 (+ £14/sbh). At 500 Ryanair hours you become a junior FO and the basic is £35,100 (+ £18/sbh). At 1,500 Ryanair hours you become a first officer and the basic is £45,000 (+ £9/sbh).

There is a £5,500 annual allowance too for medical, LOL, parking etc
Just to be clear this is before tax right? And "sbh" is the pay per hour?
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Old 5th Nov 2022, 12:14
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Originally Posted by richpea
The whole point of the bond is that the airline is making you responsible for their loss if you don't work for them for long enough.
I know guys who got laid off from Emirates weeks into their bonded MPL course due to COVID and were held liable for the whole bond. I would assume its the same deal anywhere, you agree that the training is worth X amount and you agree to reimburse the airline for investing that much in you if you don't work long enough for them to get the value from them, regardless of the circumstance of your departure.
I'd rather view it as a mutual commitment really. Don't really see at which point paying the lump sum out of your own pocket will ever be more beneficial than a bond.
Other than that I don't know whether backwards countries like the UAE are even comparable to the EU in terms of contract law etc.
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Old 5th Nov 2022, 17:37
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Originally Posted by hamburgerboy
I'd rather view it as a mutual commitment really. Don't really see at which point paying the lump sum out of your own pocket will ever be more beneficial than a bond.
Other than that I don't know whether backwards countries like the UAE are even comparable to the EU in terms of contract law etc.
I think you can view both ways around as a mutual commitment. If you "own" your TR and line training then they company has more incentive to keep you happy, or you bag your 1500 hrs and go on your way. If you're on a 4-5 year bond the company have made a commitment to take on the training risk, but then you're locked in regardless of being offered better terms and conditions somewhere else... unless of course you can afford to pay out the bond.
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Old 5th Nov 2022, 18:01
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It would be interesting to have some feedbacks from people who have been hired by Ryanair in the last year or 2. Are they happy with the training, conditions, salary, base etc..
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Old 5th Nov 2022, 18:12
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Originally Posted by Aviationpassion
It would be interesting to have some feedbacks from people who have been hired by Ryanair in the last year or 2. Are they happy with the training, conditions, salary, base etc..

yes me too
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Old 5th Nov 2022, 19:46
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Hi, Anyone for FR2303..??
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Old 6th Nov 2022, 08:14
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Originally Posted by 320fly
yes me too
hello everybody,
please which tasks we have to pass in online assessment for FO type rated b737. Thank you
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Old 6th Nov 2022, 11:16
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Hey guys,

Is someone here in the course FR2301?
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Old 6th Nov 2022, 11:54
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Originally Posted by richpea
I think you can view both ways around as a mutual commitment. If you "own" your TR and line training then they company has more incentive to keep you happy, or you bag your 1500 hrs and go on your way. If you're on a 4-5 year bond the company have made a commitment to take on the training risk, but then you're locked in regardless of being offered better terms and conditions somewhere else... unless of course you can afford to pay out the bond.
So imagine you're a taxi driver:
Company A: you'll need a Mercedes from our partner dealer, that will cost you 30K upfront. We'll offer you work for 6 months. If you do a good job we might offer you a contract afterwards.
Company B: you'll need a Mercedes, we'll buy you one. You'll have to pay us 30K back in installments. We'll offer you a 4 year contract with us. If you decide to leave us earlier you'll have to pay the remainder.

Then imagine that for company A there's a group lined up with each their own Mercedes, ready to work.


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Old 6th Nov 2022, 21:33
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Originally Posted by hamburgerboy
So imagine you're a taxi driver:
Company A: you'll need a Mercedes from our partner dealer, that will cost you 30K upfront. We'll offer you work for 6 months. If you do a good job we might offer you a contract afterwards.
Company B: you'll need a Mercedes, we'll buy you one. You'll have to pay us 30K back in installments. We'll offer you a 4 year contract with us. If you decide to leave us earlier you'll have to pay the remainder.

Then imagine that for company A there's a group lined up with each their own Mercedes, ready to work.
You're omitting the difference in t&c between A and B.
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Old 7th Nov 2022, 15:44
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Originally Posted by hamburgerboy
So imagine you're a taxi driver:
Company A: you'll need a Mercedes from our partner dealer, that will cost you 30K upfront. We'll offer you work for 6 months. If you do a good job we might offer you a contract afterwards.
Company B: you'll need a Mercedes, we'll buy you one. You'll have to pay us 30K back in installments. We'll offer you a 4 year contract with us. If you decide to leave us earlier you'll have to pay the remainder.

Then imagine that for company A there's a group lined up with each their own Mercedes, ready to work.
So your point is that it's unfair to the people who don't have or can't afford a Mercedes upfront? I get that and I'm not disagreeing with that point. What I am saying is that option A is, on a comparison of just value for costs (whether they be upfront or spread over a number of years being locked into a certain contract), not that different from option B. People taking option A are not being particularly exploited. Company B can also choose to screw you over any number of ways if they suddenly realize they don't need you, and they can keep you on whatever money they want for longer with the expectation that you'll not be able to pay out your bond.
I'm not saying that A is a lovely, fair and equitable way to go about bringing on new pilots, but I do think it has an upside for the pilots concerned, and in a world where no one is doing anyone down at the bottom of the pyramid any favors, I can't see why anyone should be blamed for taking the A option if they can.
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 17:33
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Hi guys, just wondering about the application process for Afa cadet on Ryanair website? I applied over a month ago for online assessment but nothing yet! I’m just doubting myself if I forgot to hit a button or something simple as I have my profile up to date, and I have all my documents uploaded under my documents tab and applied to the cadet afa type rating, I can see all the documents I uploaded on the page and clicked submit, but the page still has the submit option available and I’m afraid to hit it again in case I mess it up, is there anyway of knowing or confirming that everything has been uploaded correctly?
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Old 11th Nov 2022, 14:49
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Also when you apply for the online assessment should you get en email response to confirm your application online?
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Old 11th Nov 2022, 16:54
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mate sorry to hear this but if I tell you since when I have been waiting for an answer you will not believe it. I've been waiting patiently since 2019 and I didn't get a single word from them. so I decided to put my hopes somewhere else, luckily I found something which kept me current during covid.
Don't give up hope. There are other opportunities out there. Look out of the BOX.
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Old 12th Nov 2022, 10:57
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Originally Posted by Toro103r
Also when you apply for the online assessment should you get en email response to confirm your application online?
yes you should, if you didn't get that email then they don't have your application
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Old 12th Nov 2022, 12:06
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Ok thanks, i acyually did get an email from the recruitment crowd just asking me to upload my documents, so guess i will just wait and see.
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Old 13th Nov 2022, 05:39
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Hello everyone,

I would like some feedback to help deciding which interview preparation I should book.

Iíve heard of UPILOT and AFA packages but would like more details from people who actually use them or even researched them. Which is the best option?

Appreciate the help
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Old 13th Nov 2022, 09:22
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Originally Posted by horus23
Hello everyone,

I would like some feedback to help deciding which interview preparation I should book.

I’ve heard of UPILOT and AFA packages but would like more details from people who actually use them or even researched them. Which is the best option?

Appreciate the help
Hi there, I passed my assessment earlier this week and used uPilot and VA. I wholeheartedly recommend both.

As you asked for upilot, uPilot's sim is ever so slightly different, to the tune of about 5% in my opinion to VA/RYR's sim. The cockpit is all the same which matters the most, but there is slightly less feel in the controls in the trim sense, not by much. It means it can take a *little* longer to recognise for me that I needed to trim the aircraft but it's easier to spot in the assessment. I'd rather this than the other way around. Also, the visuals are slightly different, but your assessment will have you flying on the instruments 90% of the time so this is almost completely irrelevant. The centreline reference (visually) in the upilot sim is different but at RYR assessment you're not even judged on the landing.

Note... its almost half the price? The value at uPilot is excellent! - I would even be tempted to say spend what you would, at uPilot. If you're lucky enough like me to be paired up with someone else looking to sim prep, you get double the hours as PM, which I honestly believe you are assessed on just as much. my instructor was a Godsend, I learned stuff the day before my assessment regarding manual flying that I literally did not know on my APSMCC. Included in their price is 1-hour theory where they grill you with questions essentially. I saw a couple of posts on uPilot here that dissuaded me until I had a change of heart and I don't regret going at all. Good luck and try biggest recommendation is to find a partner too! Good luck.

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Old 13th Nov 2022, 16:51
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Hi, anyone at FR2305? on 16th Jan 2023? Send private message!
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Old 13th Nov 2022, 21:13
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Hi Mate, one question please: how many days did you wait before receiving a response after the interview?
Hi! I did the interview on a Tuesday and got the answer in 4 working days, so on Monday.
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