Eastern Airways
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Eastern picked up the Hawarden/Filton contract from BAe J31's cos BAe couldn't organise a pee up in a brewery and insisted upon rostering crews on either split duties and/or minimum minimum rest periods thus any delays one day impacted a X2 delay the next day.
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Is there anyone on here who knows the future set up for the Cardiff base?ie crew numbers?And will there be any plans to base more than the one J41 here?Any info would be great.Thanks
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I believe they are looking to put 2-3 aircraft in at Cardiff, but as with all things Eastern you can never rely on "plans".
For anyone looking to join them, I would completely ignore any info about them not recruiting this year. The truth is they are nearly always short of crews, as they have been expanding and loosing people to bigger outfits. However, they have recently pulled the J41 out of MAN, NWI, and I have heard HUY as well, so they may have a little slack until those crews leave rather than relocate on turboprop pay to the other end of the UK.
Best advice is to keep sending regular updates of your experience to Steve Jenkins who runs the hiring side of things now. If you can get a recommendation all the better, but don't expect a quick response, as there is very little method in the madness of selection.
For anyone looking to join them, I would completely ignore any info about them not recruiting this year. The truth is they are nearly always short of crews, as they have been expanding and loosing people to bigger outfits. However, they have recently pulled the J41 out of MAN, NWI, and I have heard HUY as well, so they may have a little slack until those crews leave rather than relocate on turboprop pay to the other end of the UK.
Best advice is to keep sending regular updates of your experience to Steve Jenkins who runs the hiring side of things now. If you can get a recommendation all the better, but don't expect a quick response, as there is very little method in the madness of selection.
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Best advise for eastern is try really hard to find another job first. they are so clueless about pilot recruitment that he reckons pilots should do a stint as Cabin Crew or in Ops before being identified as a "good chap" worthy of the RHS.
additionally, I gather he makes people pay for the FNPT2 Sim during the job interview! Ha ha this is eastern airways for the RHS of a J41 on the worst T+C's....come on.
good luck guys and girls... by all means go for eastern but know what your getting into. Taking this job could cost you big £ in the long term!
additionally, I gather he makes people pay for the FNPT2 Sim during the job interview! Ha ha this is eastern airways for the RHS of a J41 on the worst T+C's....come on.
good luck guys and girls... by all means go for eastern but know what your getting into. Taking this job could cost you big £ in the long term!
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The stint as Cabin Crew is used very infrequently for pilots with no recognisable referees or track record. Where most employers would otherwise turn candidates away, Eastern offer the recipients a ‘foot in the door’. The individuals also constitute an effective Holding Pool WITH a salary. The facility also allows pilots to have a close look at Eastern before they commit to a Bond. They have a 100% success rate when they have employed this facility.
Regarding their recruitment process, they have recently taken on experienced pilots (Captains) from Flybe, BMI, Netjets, Jet 2 and Monarch.
Regarding their recruitment process, they have recently taken on experienced pilots (Captains) from Flybe, BMI, Netjets, Jet 2 and Monarch.
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So, what would motivate Captains from the above airlines to join Eastern? From people I know who have worked there Eastern, means lots of hours, relatively poor pay and unstable rosters. Am I missing something?
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To be frank, yes.
Eastern's business model gives the opportunity for recruits to enjoy a lifestyle of having most weekends and bank holidays off. Their wide national base structure allows most of their crews to be based close to where they want to live. They are also home most nights and rarely work past 10pm.
Some of their pilots with experience of larger aircraft and higher salaries have considered their options and seen great value in the above personal benefits.
I can see how wannabies would dismiss smaller turboprops in favour of Boeings, however once you have been round the block in this industry you realise there are not as many stereotypical pilots chasing big jets as you had originally thought.
What value lifestyle? That is a question only the individual can answer after considering his or her circumstances.
Eastern's business model gives the opportunity for recruits to enjoy a lifestyle of having most weekends and bank holidays off. Their wide national base structure allows most of their crews to be based close to where they want to live. They are also home most nights and rarely work past 10pm.
Some of their pilots with experience of larger aircraft and higher salaries have considered their options and seen great value in the above personal benefits.
I can see how wannabies would dismiss smaller turboprops in favour of Boeings, however once you have been round the block in this industry you realise there are not as many stereotypical pilots chasing big jets as you had originally thought.
What value lifestyle? That is a question only the individual can answer after considering his or her circumstances.
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Gettin in the door
Keltie, tell me, what is the secret about trying to get into East Flite? I have applied several times, expressing an interest in Scotland (where no one apparently wants to be based). I have many friends in the company, but it just doesn't seem to cut the mustard! The replies I get from the wee man say different things every other month. Your views??
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Whilst both of you state you want to be based in Scotland; this doesn't "create" a position for you. There is no "secret" to getting in to Eastern Airways. Recruitment, like any other airline, is geared around company crew establishment requirements on an ongoing basis.
I wish you the best of luck if you wish to continue applying to Eastern Airways for work. Persistence may pay off so don't give up!
Duir it would be naive of the company to recruit on personal recommendation alone. Factors such as experience must also be considered. Having friends who already work for Eastern is of course a benefit but not a certainty of a job offer. Don't be disheartened though.
Toastal with the greatest of respect I doubt your application would be taken seriously if you can't get the airline's name correct. Don't believe any of the rubbish about nobody wants to be based in Scotland. Scotland is no more difficult to crew than any other location. And who is Keltie?
Pipertommy if you want a response try deleting some of your stored PMs.
I wish you the best of luck if you wish to continue applying to Eastern Airways for work. Persistence may pay off so don't give up!
Duir it would be naive of the company to recruit on personal recommendation alone. Factors such as experience must also be considered. Having friends who already work for Eastern is of course a benefit but not a certainty of a job offer. Don't be disheartened though.
Toastal with the greatest of respect I doubt your application would be taken seriously if you can't get the airline's name correct. Don't believe any of the rubbish about nobody wants to be based in Scotland. Scotland is no more difficult to crew than any other location. And who is Keltie?
Pipertommy if you want a response try deleting some of your stored PMs.
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Any Job Any Base
Hey guys I am an older type looking for my first job to get away from this horrid 
desk........will fly for food from any base and to be honest if Eastern offered me a job I would most likely stay with them and not run of to a brash Mr Boeing or sexy Madam Airbus...GOD I HATE THIS DESK!!!!!!!!
desk........will fly for food from any base and to be honest if Eastern offered me a job I would most likely stay with them and not run of to a brash Mr Boeing or sexy Madam Airbus...GOD I HATE THIS DESK!!!!!!!!
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Well I must be moving up the queue I have had my fATPL for a while now....is that light at the end of the tunnel or train comming towards me!!
I know getting a job in this industry is all about..who you know and not what you know...being in the right place at the right time... and waiting for the food chain to move which it would appear to be doing now. I only hope that the likes of Eastern keep up the good work and employing us older modular types. KEEP IT UP EASTERN......and I am in a pile cv's on someones desk there!!!!! lol
I know getting a job in this industry is all about..who you know and not what you know...being in the right place at the right time... and waiting for the food chain to move which it would appear to be doing now. I only hope that the likes of Eastern keep up the good work and employing us older modular types. KEEP IT UP EASTERN......and I am in a pile cv's on someones desk there!!!!! lol
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One for the Skirted man
KILTIE,
Sorry if I ruffled your sporran, there was absolutely no intention, and the info I received about Scottish bases may well be incorrect. A person should in no way expect automatic employment because they have a certain post code, i'm not saying that. I also agree that personal recs alone are not enough to secure a job. What I am saying however is that there is no rhyme or reason to the recruitment policy. I have had several pleasant, encouraging e-mails from HQ. When I address my currency, re-newals, build hours etc etc, the correspondant changes the goal posts. I know they're a good outfit, and I would be very keen to work for them. I guess there's a fine line between showing keeness and being a pain in the arse.
With reference to East Flite, I was just using their caller handle, much and such the same as "Pig Pen" and "Rubber Ducky"
Sorry if I ruffled your sporran, there was absolutely no intention, and the info I received about Scottish bases may well be incorrect. A person should in no way expect automatic employment because they have a certain post code, i'm not saying that. I also agree that personal recs alone are not enough to secure a job. What I am saying however is that there is no rhyme or reason to the recruitment policy. I have had several pleasant, encouraging e-mails from HQ. When I address my currency, re-newals, build hours etc etc, the correspondant changes the goal posts. I know they're a good outfit, and I would be very keen to work for them. I guess there's a fine line between showing keeness and being a pain in the arse.
With reference to East Flite, I was just using their caller handle, much and such the same as "Pig Pen" and "Rubber Ducky"
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eastern is a good airline to work for. I can assure you that there a lot of peoples cv arriving on the ops managers desk from scotland, so therefore quite a few people want to be in scotland... the iom another matter lol
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Kiltie, taking on Captains from Monarch, BMI, etc sounds great but these are guys whom have retired from the majors. I gather an Eastern Captain earns far less than a Monarch First Officer (circa £50 000p.a)
Make no mistake every airline has its problems; Eastern could be a world beater of a company to work for if only they managed the Airline in a sane and sustainable way I gather it is going from bad to worse in various Pilot related departments.
Make no mistake every airline has its problems; Eastern could be a world beater of a company to work for if only they managed the Airline in a sane and sustainable way
I gather it is going from bad to worse in various Pilot related departments.
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Actually boys, I think all of the above is tosh. When I worked for Eastern it was very friendly and I'm told its the same now. They don't put up with tossers though. Standards were high and still are, which is why they are attractive to the jetset. Very few pilots got anywhere near 900 hrs, except in ABZ when several FOs failed their Command Conversions and the existing captains had to put the hours in. I think they have a recruitment tickover but thousands of applicants. Rumour has it they are taking on experienced jet jocks who want to return to being pilots rather than autopilot monitors, get home at weekends, enjoy high standards and pride in customer care. Tand C were average for turboprop ops. Overall, good bunch. The bad press you may see on Prune usually emanates from the aforementioned.
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Before you have a pop at eastern again Global, you ought to know that all their pilot managers fly regularly, they don't have a seperate recruitment department or even PAs. The whole HR department is two people! If you've had acknowledgement of your CV you should be grateful: you don't even get a response from much bigger airlines! I agree with Kiltie: I know Eastern have thousands of applicants and its a case of right place - right time. They do place great emphasis on recruiting nice people which is why it is such a friendly company. Rumour has it that the whinging minority have left or are leaving. The few that are left can't get jobs elsewhere presumably.