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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 11:46
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I've got to agree with Northern Flyer ! It may actually precipitate more early departure to higher paid positions with a 12.5k debt to service on a low salary - whcih I'm sure Eastern wouldn't want either !!

So, Cptn Chaos - do you know what the scoop is wrt the SSTR (or anyone else for that matter) ?

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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 16:52
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Eastern's New Policy

Well, this is knew. It's all news to me, sorry I can't help with the latest news.

I know it was mentioned but I did not think it would happen, for the reasons discussed. J41 - or - B737/A321 ??

Can't see it working or solving any problems, but who am I to question?
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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 20:16
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Looks like they are indeed charging for type ratings.

http://jals.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4828
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Old 25th Mar 2007, 21:28
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Oh well... it's nothing like the good old days of a friendly chat with Chris Haysom!
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Old 26th Mar 2007, 02:12
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But there was a time, at the turn of the century, when one could have a friendly chat with RL himself! Perhaps a much more entertaining prospect?
The bottom line on shelling out for a J41/B737 conversion surely boils down to where, having spent the dollars, one is going to pick up the five hundred or so hours 'airline' experience? One could argue perhaps that a J41 type rating is pretty useless but that what one is really buying here is an entry ticket to multi crew flying?
Just another stepping stone on the road of slavery and bondage?
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Old 26th Mar 2007, 07:34
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I've got to agree with Northern Flyer ! It may actually precipitate more early departure to higher paid positions with a 12.5k debt to service on a low salary - whcih I'm sure Eastern wouldn't want either !!
I don' think Eastern will give a stuff how many guys leave and how fast; as long as they can find someone to put in the right hand seat. They might even make some money out of their labour turnover, Ryanair have. And if you don't like Eastern what are you going to do then. Go get a nice paid for type rating with a jet operator? No, you'll be paying for another SSTR.
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Old 26th Mar 2007, 09:30
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So you pay for your own type rating, out of your own pocket - yet they still bond you (from the JALS link). For what exactly? If they've paid for my type rating - a bond is, I would say, reasonable - but if I've paid for my rating myself. S** Off.
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Old 26th Mar 2007, 09:39
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Its very interesting looking at Flatbrokes link to the BGS site regarding the sponsorship:

"For an Application Form and Scheme details, state in you ownhandwriting, in 400 words, “What do you consider are the qualities expected in a Professional Pilot by a regional airline related to an assessment of your own abilities to satisfy them” --- apply to: Capt. M. P. Briggs, Triple ‘A’ Flying, The Flight House, Kirmington Vale, Barnetby, North Lincolnshire, DN38 6AF".

This is for Eastern Airways, but it seems that CAPTAIN Briggs is doing the assesment here. Excuse me, but what does he know about flying for a regional airline and more particulary Eastern? Surely this should be done by the guys at Eastern, then the successfull candidates be passed to CAPTAIN Briggs!!

Something doesnt sound right to me here!!
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Old 26th Mar 2007, 09:41
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And if you don't like Eastern what are you going to do then. Go get a nice paid for type rating with a jet operator? No, you'll be paying for another SSTR.
With a company who will at least pay a living wage and / or a lump sum to help pay the cost of the TR back. (excluding a certain irish airline obviously)

I don' think Eastern will give a stuff how many guys leave and how fast; as long as they can find someone to put in the right hand seat. They might even make some money out of their labour turnover, Ryanair have.
Sounds like the nail being hit well and truly on the head.
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Old 26th Mar 2007, 12:39
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I'm sure Mike is more than capable of picking the right candidate for the job, having been trained by him I can say that his attitude toward flight training and ultimately a job with a regional or any airline, is second to none!

Plus you only need to go to the Triple A website, take a look under "news" to see how many pilots have gone there from the school...and so far it would seem Eastern are happy with them..so if it ain't broke...don't fix it!
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Old 26th Mar 2007, 12:45
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Plus you only need to go to the Triple A website, take a look under "news" to see how many pilots have gone there from the school...and so far it would seem Eastern are happy with them..so if it ain't broke...don't fix it!
Sounds like Mr Briggs has got himself a sweet deal!
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Old 29th Mar 2007, 21:22
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I'm sure Mike is more than capable of picking the right candidate for the job, having been trained by him I can say that his attitude toward flight training and ultimately a job with a regional or any airline, is second to none!
Still crying from laughing so hard! I would recommend anyone interested in this scheme to do ALOT of research on this school, the UK has more professional and value for money options available. And the list of dissatisfied students is more comprehensive than what's listed on AAA's website!

Please feel free to PM me for my personal experiences of doing a CPL at AAA. I won't list them here as Mr Briggs tends to threaten you with his big bruvva!
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Old 29th Mar 2007, 21:39
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Are Eastern a TRTO? In which case, as they own the J41 sim, I guess it makes some buisness sense. Loganair started this last year too.

But the Triple 'A' thingy??!!! - Give me strength...I had the pleasure of Captain Briggs for a CPL, The Doctor said i've made good progress, i've stopped screaming at the sound of his name at least!!! Now it just makes me smile at FL380 - even in the middle of the night to Turkey!!!

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Old 30th Mar 2007, 07:51
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I considered training at Captain Briggs school. Then I read a thread on pprune called "Triple A = Triple the Cost" that detailed the owners eccentric, perfectionist nature. Let,s just say that after reading that I was less enthusiatic. How did Eastern come to let this school and individual act as the gateway to the RHS of a J41? I'm assuming AAA and Captain Briggs have more going for them than just being local.
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Old 1st Apr 2007, 13:36
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Mr Briggs seems to get a lot of negative comments here and people with personal issues are voicing their views again. I also did my cpl/ir at AAA and yes it is more expensive than other schools and Mr Briggs does seem to have only one method of teaching which does and will not suit everybody, but I believe that you leave AAA as a prospective productive FO as opposed to someone who can fly an ILS. A few recent FO's have really struggled making the transition to RHS at Eastern and others who have been there a while with instructing experience are under performers. All this boils down to the quality of training you have received before hand. I know AAA hurts in the pocket but when those LPC/OPC's come around, you know where that extra money went. As for what does Mr Briggs know about being a First Officer... He's probably forgotten more about flying than most people on here will ever know
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Old 17th May 2007, 11:08
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Eastern Airways recruitment info

Has anyone got any information on

1. Eastern airways in general.

2. Their recruitment process and any tips.


Thanks
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Old 17th May 2007, 11:26
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15k bond I believe for the wet-dream

check PPJN

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Old 17th May 2007, 11:55
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Thanks.

Thats one of the things I am wondering about. Weather it is a bond or money up front.
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Old 18th May 2007, 00:37
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triple aaaa selection

A mate and I did one 'Capt Brigg's selections last year at Triple AAA, If you want the Heads up on it, PM me and i'll let you know my thoughts.

As for Eastern, they seemed a nice bunch of people whom i met.
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Old 20th May 2007, 09:34
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Angry Eastern Airways TECHNICAL questionaire

Has anyone any info on the technical question paper they set.

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