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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 5th Jan 2007, 20:06
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Thanks for the info, (although I can say they ARE still offering phase 2 re-sits)

Regards.

Originally Posted by pre3mhjt View Post
BR40737, You do not need to re-submit stage one at any point after initial application. There are no longer any re-sits if you fail stage two. I dont know exact figures, but there are plenty of people out here who gained a place after failing stage three first time round. Hope this helps, Good Luck
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Old 6th Jan 2007, 12:11
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yes to confirm they are still doing resits for stage 2. Does anyone know any good websites for maths revision esp currency conversion?
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Old 6th Jan 2007, 17:55
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If you can do division and multiplication, you'll be able to do currency conversion... that's all currency conversion is. There's nothing special or different about it, other than the fact the numbers have got a pound or dollar sign in front of them!
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Old 6th Jan 2007, 21:10
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Going to phase 3 soon

hello,

i've been invited for the stage 3 at the beginning of february and was just wondering how long does the day last approx. (for travel arrangements purpose).
Otherwise, how technical can the aviation questions be ? (i thought you could apply without any flying experience so what is the point of these questions ? )

thanks & ciao ciao

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(best wishes from GVA)
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Old 7th Jan 2007, 00:00
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The group work is all in the morning so its down to when youre scheduled for your afternoon interview. Mine was the last of the day finishing around 5.30 but the first lot were done by around 1. If you need to get off early it might be worth asking if its possible to have an earlier slot.

As for the techinical side I think they want to see more of an ability to figure things out and reason rather than an all out knowledge. If you have no flying experience make sure you read up on the principles of flight and the partner airlines. Its no more difficult than that
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Old 8th Jan 2007, 02:07
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thx

Ok Thank you 2close for your answer !
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Old 9th Jan 2007, 05:04
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|Gwidgery:

The only time in the course you dont get accomodation is during your weeks off either side of the two exam periods. you are in the uk at this time so it shouldnt be a problem. You are provided with vehicles in NZ at all times but not in the UK. Your expenses as far as living goes will be food, beer and petrol. All travell is paid for out to Newzealand and back to the UK as far as London Heathrow.

2close,

about the age limits im not sure. I am told it is a very gray area, i think even CTC and the airlines are a little unsure on this one. Obviously the massive cost and huge risk of sposoring somone from 0hrs to First officer means airlines and ctc will want some "mileage" out of thier pilots. I think the airlines are looking for pilots to progress through to training captains and run thier fleet as opposed to just filling an immediate gap in the roster. The oldest people out here are somwhere around 29/30. As far as which airline you would then go to im not sure but you will get sent to one if you complete the course.
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Old 9th Jan 2007, 10:07
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Hi Dragonfly,

I think you will find the clarity needed to move from the grey area into the black and white in The Employment Equality (Age) Regulations 2006 - Age Discrimination.

Did I actually make that claim - 'UK law' and 'black and white' in the same sentence?

Regulation 7 makes it unlawful for employers to implement any conditions on employment in relation to age and that includes the arrangements made for determining to whom employment shold be offered. This could make it difficult for potential employers to utilise 'middle-men' to impose conditions that would filter the employee stream

Regulation 20 is quite explicit regarding vocational training:

"20.—(1) It is unlawful, in relation to a person seeking or undergoing training, for any training provider to discriminate against him—"

and it goes on with the various parameters but I think you get the gist.

What I find really interesting is Regulation 19, regarding Qualifications Bodies, e.g. Aviation Authorities which offer professional licences. This time the discrimination is flip-flopped and youth becomes the issue. OK, feet on the ground, there aren't going to be many people younger than 18 wanting a CPL or younger than 21 wanting an ATPL but it is interesting that no exemptions have been introduced within the legislation.

Saying all the above, nevertheless, this is new legislation and it will be a while before it settles - there have been amendments already. I am interested to see which way the bed will be made on this occasion.

Cheers,

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Old 9th Jan 2007, 14:37
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Sounds like an auto-generated invoice, created by a computerised accounting system.

All phases of selection are entered separately into the system and a £0.00 charge is entered against that particular item. However, the system still chucks out the invoice and if you have an automated mailing system or an accounts assistant who isn't paying particular attention the invoices get sent out.

I used to have a similar problem with my accounting software but I wasn't so advanced to have things automatically posted so I simply binned those invoices.

My favourite cheque was from the Social Security for £ 0.01. I should have framed it but just for the hell of it I paid it into my bank account.

I wouldn't worry but if you're concerned give them a call.

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Old 9th Jan 2007, 14:56
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Hey, I was worried about the same thing, but I soon got an email saying they received my payment for the booking...which did confuse me at the time because I didn't send anything, but I think the website just hasn't been updated yet.

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Old 9th Jan 2007, 18:49
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Im due to go to stage2 reassesment and after looking through the threads i was wondering if there are group exercises at stage 2 like there were 4 years ago when i did it? The email only states aptitude tests.
Thanks
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Old 9th Jan 2007, 19:44
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Hey,

I did phase 2 in December and I can confirm it is just 15 maths questions and the PILAPT test.
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Old 9th Jan 2007, 20:32
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Wouldn't be much of a test if they let you use a calculator

Good luck with selection
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Old 9th Jan 2007, 20:41
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Fair enough! Well it was a few years ago that I did CTC maths tests so I'm not much use to you. I'd be very suprised if you got a calculator, they don't usually give much away for free
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Old 9th Jan 2007, 22:25
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Thanks for the answer to my previous question.... i've now got another!

How long (ish) does it take from when you send off your initial application form, until they contact you about Stage 2?

CTC say on their website it takes a few months from the very beginning to the very end, but not until S2.

Thanks
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 00:26
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GWidgery it took around 7 weeks from faxing the answers to CTC for stage 1 to getting a date for stage 2. Bearing in mind as well it was over the Christmas/New year period so it could well take less time normally.

Question

I have looked at amazon for books to brush up on my maths for the test but there are so many of them. Which ONE have most people found the most useful? i.e had the most relevant type of maths in when they went for there test. I have already ordered the Cockpit web program for the aptitude test just now looking for a relevant maths book.

Cheers
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 01:16
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Originally Posted by ppl_student View Post
Thanks CraigB,

Do they let you use a calculator or is it mental arithmetic?

No you may not use a calculator... 15 MENTAL arithmatic questions... and it is possible to get 15/15
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 13:44
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cpt spam can

7 weeks??? Are you serious? I was starting getting worried because I sent mine off on 23/12/06 and only had two identical emails (1st on 27/12/06, 2nd on 2/1/07) to let me know that they've recieved it. And I haven't heard anything since. But I guess I can calm down if it took them 7 weeks with you!

About your question, I purchased 'Speed Mathematics' by Bill Handley because somebody recommended it somewhere here on either this or the old ctc threat and I think it's brilliant. I could imagine it's not everybody's piece of cake but I'm finding very helpful indeed.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 09:40
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Originally Posted by Dolley View Post
cpt spam can
7 weeks??? Are you serious? I was starting getting worried because I sent mine off on 23/12/06 and only had two identical emails (1st on 27/12/06, 2nd on 2/1/07) to let me know that they've recieved it. And I haven't heard anything since. But I guess I can calm down if it took them 7 weeks with you!
About your question, I purchased 'Speed Mathematics' by Bill Handley because somebody recommended it somewhere here on either this or the old ctc threat and I think it's brilliant. I could imagine it's not everybody's piece of cake but I'm finding very helpful indeed.
Yes, CTC seem to take varying degrees of time processing the initial applications so I wouldn't be worried at all. I also got the 'Speed Mathematics' book by Bill Handley. Very good for sharpening up your mental arithmetic! Definitely recommended.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 11:32
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what have people done who have failed stage 2 of CTC? Have you gone elsewhere like oxford or cabair and passed? I thought I would have passed as my scores on the hand eye coordination were high, must be the multi tasking i failed on! Bit stuck on what to do next ie get my ppl and try elsewhere..
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