Ryanair Interview and Sim Assessment (merged)
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I would like to ask those who actually have been called up for whatever is the next stage after CAE initial application (or is it a case of everyone being called at this stage), what have you inserted in "additional info - step 6"
One more thing... In step 5 - work profile, would you insert dates for interview and TR as immediate (showing that you are very flexible) or realistic dates as some people do actually work
Does it all matter at this stage!?
Thank you!
One more thing... In step 5 - work profile, would you insert dates for interview and TR as immediate (showing that you are very flexible) or realistic dates as some people do actually work
Does it all matter at this stage!?
Thank you!
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Sid-South,
No cadet is offered a Ryanair contract, it's either Brookfield or Storm.
You will not end up in Marrakech as the only people that fly there are on floating contracts. They ask you on the interview but it is just an indication for them to see how flexible you are (my guess). You can end up in a sh
hole or you can end up at home or at some beach with 25° all year around flying 5-6hr ''longhaul'' flights to scandinavia.. Nobody has figured yet how this works! You can apply for a base after your Line training is complete but still this will only affect their decision if they have a need at that particular base.
Yes. After a successful interview Storm or Brookfield will call you for the details..
AT3,
If you can't find anything better, make a brief, compact synopsis of the best parts in your cover letter. Anyhow do not leave it blank!
Immediate!
Does anyone know if there are any Ryanair contracts available this time or is it Brookfield or nothing?
How likely are the new cadets to end up somewhere like Marrakech? Is that negotiable in the interview/if or when a contract is offered?
hole or you can end up at home or at some beach with 25° all year around flying 5-6hr ''longhaul'' flights to scandinavia.. Nobody has figured yet how this works! You can apply for a base after your Line training is complete but still this will only affect their decision if they have a need at that particular base.
Are you offered a contract of employment before you start your self funded type rating?
AT3,
I would like to ask those who actually have been called up for whatever is the next stage after CAE initial application (or is it a case of everyone being called at this stage), what have you inserted in "additional info - step 6"
In step 5 - work profile, would you insert dates for interview and TR as immediate (showing that you are very flexible) or realistic dates as some people do actually work
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next cae e mail
It depends... when did you apply? did you just send your cv after having submitted the first application? it all depends on the time you applied and the following steps...
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do you get a choice regarding Brookfield or Storm?
Also, could you tell me what is meant by 'floating contract'?
may I ask how you found the terms and in the first months post TR?
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Flight hours
I submitted my application for a couple of days ago but I was not sure regarding the flight hours which need to be entered whether the sim and FNPT II time shall be inclduded or not.
I just graduated from flying school with a total flight time of 152 hours excl. sim time and 220 hours incl. sim time.
Can anybody tell me which number needs to be entered?
I just graduated from flying school with a total flight time of 152 hours excl. sim time and 220 hours incl. sim time.
Can anybody tell me which number needs to be entered?
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Re cae mail
I applied for three weeks ago, same day as they reopened. And yesterday I recived an email that cae wanted my cv. So i mailed them, and after a few hours I recived an email that my cv has been sent to Ryan for approval.
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Ah the ol' divide and conquer. Give more hours to the storm guys as they're cheaper. Next year introduce a new contract which guaranties 25 hours a month but for €20 less per hour, reduce the storm contract to zero hours....rinse and repeat.
I remember reading PPrune back in 2008 with guys justifying accepting Brookfield as T&Cs will have to improve eventually.
I remember reading PPrune back in 2008 with guys justifying accepting Brookfield as T&Cs will have to improve eventually.
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I'd suggest those who don't think its possible to have less than 30 hours a month to look at UK base rosters at the moment. 20 is common in some for November. Some are lucky to get a week out of base like TFS but if not you're screwed if you haven't saved in summer and have loan repayments.
Expect to hit 500hrs about 1 year after starting the rating if you're lucky enough to be line training in winter (if line training you'll do 70+hrs a month irrespective of the season). If you do line training in summer then I'd estimate up to 15 months from week 1 at EMA to hit 500.
Expect to hit 500hrs about 1 year after starting the rating if you're lucky enough to be line training in winter (if line training you'll do 70+hrs a month irrespective of the season). If you do line training in summer then I'd estimate up to 15 months from week 1 at EMA to hit 500.
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Hi Guys,
In my opinion the above poster is not as correct as he thinks.
I joined roughly this time last year. And now I have 600hrs on type. The TR course was slightly extended due to Christmas and a few other factors.
I started line training in April, and finished in May. And as I said to date I've 600 on the 738. Going by my course mates, they have roughly the same as I, give or take 20-30hrs. Average was 75hrs pm during the summer and at the moment that's going down to 50-55.
What you need to know going into FR is, you pay for everything. They really don't care about you to a degree. I mean if you have personal issues or you stumble into problems with your training they'll certainly go out of their way to help you. On a everyday basis they won't. If we were in the states it would take at least 10yrs to get in a jet like this. And the training is fantastic. So there are positives. Any job you get after FR will only be because you needed jet time. Look at it as a stepping stone or a flight school!
That said its a concern that they're recruiting 500 next year the same the year after and 300 the year after that. And next year we'll have 10 planes less then what we do now. So all I'd say is you'd be mad not to join if you have nothing else on the table and if you get in, do so with your eyes open.
In my opinion the above poster is not as correct as he thinks.
I joined roughly this time last year. And now I have 600hrs on type. The TR course was slightly extended due to Christmas and a few other factors.
I started line training in April, and finished in May. And as I said to date I've 600 on the 738. Going by my course mates, they have roughly the same as I, give or take 20-30hrs. Average was 75hrs pm during the summer and at the moment that's going down to 50-55.
What you need to know going into FR is, you pay for everything. They really don't care about you to a degree. I mean if you have personal issues or you stumble into problems with your training they'll certainly go out of their way to help you. On a everyday basis they won't. If we were in the states it would take at least 10yrs to get in a jet like this. And the training is fantastic. So there are positives. Any job you get after FR will only be because you needed jet time. Look at it as a stepping stone or a flight school!
That said its a concern that they're recruiting 500 next year the same the year after and 300 the year after that. And next year we'll have 10 planes less then what we do now. So all I'd say is you'd be mad not to join if you have nothing else on the table and if you get in, do so with your eyes open.
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Look at it like a flight school, is there a more depressing statement for a "professional" career
Many true comments and good info, some F/O's in my base are doing 20-30 hours this month so 50+ is very good going for a winter base
Great experience here but you pay for it in a few ways, just make sure you have some spare cash always to get your experience as I know of one guy who went home during line training as he could not afford the hotel anymore and only option was sleeping in the terminal which is not really an option.
Look at it like a flight school, is there a more depressing statement for a "professional" career
Many true comments and good info, some F/O's in my base are doing 20-30 hours this month so 50+ is very good going for a winter base
Great experience here but you pay for it in a few ways, just make sure you have some spare cash always to get your experience as I know of one guy who went home during line training as he could not afford the hotel anymore and only option was sleeping in the terminal which is not really an option.
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If we were in the states it would take at least 10yrs to get in a jet like this
What you need to know going into FR is, you pay for everything.
Look at it as a stepping stone or a flight school!
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Flight hours
I submitted my application for a couple of days ago but I was not sure regarding the flight hours which need to be entered whether the sim and FNPT II time shall be inclduded or not.
I just graduated from flying school with a total flight time of 152 hours excl. sim time and 220 hours incl. sim time.
Can anybody tell me which number needs to be entered?
I just graduated from flying school with a total flight time of 152 hours excl. sim time and 220 hours incl. sim time.
Can anybody tell me which number needs to be entered?
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Naaj, sim time (FNPT II) should not be included into your total time.
Tea towel very mature posting!
My point is, I'm stating the here and now. The fact is Ryanair is like a flight school. I'm not saying it's right but it is what it is. Until the pilot body stick together and stand up for themselves it will remain the same if not get worse. But anyone who has moved on from Ryanair to the likes of BA, EK, VA etc wouldn't have got the positions if they didn't have the jet time required. My point being, is not a career airline but get in get out, learn as much as you can from some really experienced guys. And when a better offer comes along, take it! And fingers crossed it will change for the better, but unlikely! There are negatives and positives. Hence there are 1000's of pilots working there, 100's leaving and 100's applying. Each pilot has his/her agenda. Some like FR for the roster others for the base they have. All depends on the person. In three years time see where your moral stance gets you when you have 2000 SEP hours vs someone with 1500 738 hours applying for let's say Norwegian or Jet2... I think you'll be left posting on Pprune for sometime to come!! That's my point. Yet I don't agree with the way it's gone just to clarify! But as it stands today, that's the way it is. Sadly!
Tea towel very mature posting!
My point is, I'm stating the here and now. The fact is Ryanair is like a flight school. I'm not saying it's right but it is what it is. Until the pilot body stick together and stand up for themselves it will remain the same if not get worse. But anyone who has moved on from Ryanair to the likes of BA, EK, VA etc wouldn't have got the positions if they didn't have the jet time required. My point being, is not a career airline but get in get out, learn as much as you can from some really experienced guys. And when a better offer comes along, take it! And fingers crossed it will change for the better, but unlikely! There are negatives and positives. Hence there are 1000's of pilots working there, 100's leaving and 100's applying. Each pilot has his/her agenda. Some like FR for the roster others for the base they have. All depends on the person. In three years time see where your moral stance gets you when you have 2000 SEP hours vs someone with 1500 738 hours applying for let's say Norwegian or Jet2... I think you'll be left posting on Pprune for sometime to come!! That's my point. Yet I don't agree with the way it's gone just to clarify! But as it stands today, that's the way it is. Sadly!
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Funnily enough BAe 146-100 I am now close to having that money. Will I apply? **** no. I have always been open with my friends and family about the state of the airlines, unlike some who cant wait to pay into an airline and paint a false rosy picture to the lads back home over some pints. If I join Ryanair I will make myself a Pariah. My friends are struggling to start their careers like me, the last thing they need is someone with money or access to it getting the jobs.
The only good thing about Ryanair is that it sucks the money out of these guys and they wont be able to afford a new type rating at their next job, and so the disease dies off without a host airline. (Because paying for your first type legitimises paying for all of them)
PIOSEE I know why you did it and that's the problem. You also state the you need experience to fly airliners around the sky in busy airspace? What the hell are you doing now? Do you passengers know you treat it like a school instead of an actual airline?
You have condemned future Doctors to pay for their intern-ships, IT workers to pay for their graduate programmes, along with engineers, electricians, every profession.
A scab list was made after the Australian 89 pilots strike which made life very difficult for the strike breakers up to this day. There is also a US master scab list still doing the rounds. I think its time to make a master list of guys who buy type ratings and jobs.
The only good thing about Ryanair is that it sucks the money out of these guys and they wont be able to afford a new type rating at their next job, and so the disease dies off without a host airline. (Because paying for your first type legitimises paying for all of them)
PIOSEE I know why you did it and that's the problem. You also state the you need experience to fly airliners around the sky in busy airspace? What the hell are you doing now? Do you passengers know you treat it like a school instead of an actual airline?
You have condemned future Doctors to pay for their intern-ships, IT workers to pay for their graduate programmes, along with engineers, electricians, every profession.
A scab list was made after the Australian 89 pilots strike which made life very difficult for the strike breakers up to this day. There is also a US master scab list still doing the rounds. I think its time to make a master list of guys who buy type ratings and jobs.
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TT, so you think you can change the world?
Sorry to disappoint you but at least half of your friends that you care so much for would jump on job "opportunity" such as this one.
Yes, I have called it an opportunity coz there's nothing out there and things not going to change, you may like it or not.
I used to think the same way as you but this profession, probably as much as any other is full of SELFISH people! And only the selfish one will get where they want to be in the future.
It's human nature, be selfish for once and do something for your self!
Stop living in a fairy land
Sorry to disappoint you but at least half of your friends that you care so much for would jump on job "opportunity" such as this one.
Yes, I have called it an opportunity coz there's nothing out there and things not going to change, you may like it or not.
I used to think the same way as you but this profession, probably as much as any other is full of SELFISH people! And only the selfish one will get where they want to be in the future.
It's human nature, be selfish for once and do something for your self!
Stop living in a fairy land