Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Freight Dogs
Reload this Page >

Recent AeroLogic & CargoLux Newhires - Questions

Wikiposts
Search
Freight Dogs Finally a forum for those midnight prowler types who utilise the unglamorous parts of airports that many of us never get to see. Freight Dogs is for pilots and crew who operate mostly without SLF.

Recent AeroLogic & CargoLux Newhires - Questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 4th Feb 2011, 16:54
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Recent AeroLogic & CargoLux Newhires - Questions

For those of us who aspire to flying for one of these carriers, can someone describe the "average" qualifications and backgrounds of recent (perhaps last 1-2 years) newhires?

I know there is a difference between the stated minimums and the actual "competitive" profiles. Where have the newhires flown before? Locos? Smaller regional carriers? Military? I realise there are probably newhires who hit all of these buckets. Any examples of where recent newhires at AeroLogic and CargoLux have flown before?

Also, is certain aircraft type experience preferred over other types? Excluding all of the political stuff (i.e., you need to know somebody or get referred by current pilots), what is helpful in getting you noticed beyond having more than the stated minimums?

PMs also welcome.

Cheers
Iver is offline  
Old 5th Feb 2011, 19:34
  #2 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Echo Echo Echo.... Wow, 300+ hits and no responses. Please, enlighten us!

PMs also welcome.

Cheers
Iver is offline  
Old 6th Feb 2011, 07:43
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: All over the world
Age: 40
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hired at CLX. No idea if it helped, but in my early carreer I have flown Turboprop in Europe and developing countries varying between Africa and Central Asian warzones (military contractors).
Last 4,5 years 737NG for european lowcost/charter company.
When invited for selection 27yrs and 3500+ hrs.
PH-JPC is offline  
Old 6th Feb 2011, 08:40
  #4 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I dont realy see how this would help you. If you want to work there send your application and see what happens.
As for Aerologic I can tell you that pilots with lots of jet hours as well as pilots with just a few hundred hours of turboprob have been invited and hired.
I dont know if they are very happy with the rookies flying long haul on a 777 with only little experiance before.
EAM is offline  
Old 6th Feb 2011, 11:18
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Now at Home
Posts: 290
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
you don't know. you should. guess you also know this business quite a long time EAM.
The rookies are more cheap, they are more easy to handle, guess you know well what I mean, and because they take rookies, the rookies guess are more sucked up to their BOSSES.
deeply grateful to fly those big ships etc etc. After all they maybe more "handy".
Airbus_a321 is offline  
Old 6th Feb 2011, 11:52
  #6 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Aerologic had a min. of 1000h total before, I heared voices that said they are not to happy with the 4-500h pilots and will go back to the min. of 1000h.

Of course those guys are cheap and happy to fly the big ship, but with 3 landings per month you dont learn flying and what will they do in 5-6 years when those guys have 4-5000h but fly like someone with 2000h.

1000-1500h turboprop is a very good training, I would rather take a prop pilot than an Airbus pilot with 2000h.
EAM is offline  
Old 8th Feb 2011, 06:27
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: yep!
Age: 47
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Iver, to get back to your question. Got hired recently. Course comprised of two guys with substantial wide body experience, two regional Turboprop captains with about 4-5k hrs, 4 copilots from several backgrounds in the 1-2k hrs range.
Seems that no one knew somebody in the company before (at least nobody admitted so )
Supernumerary is offline  
Old 8th Feb 2011, 10:45
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Am not at Aerologic, but have a few friends who have just started there. The last course had a mix of Long Haul experienced captains and FOs, ex TP FOs (ca 1000 hrs) and one ex DHL. A broad range of people apparently.

KT
Knee Trembler is offline  
Old 8th Feb 2011, 16:36
  #9 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Appreciate all of the responses thusfar - and invite any additional comments. I am happy to hear that a broad variety of backgrounds are being considered at both operators. I am well aware of Cargolux's difficult/selective screening process but less familiar with AeroLogic and its process.

I recall from an early thread that AeroLogic initially seemed to favor people with specific backgrounds and experience (i.e., former LTU pilots because the CP was a former LTU A330 Captain). That may have been only at the beginning and not be the case now.

Two questions. Can anyone speak to the potential fleet growth at AeroLogic going forward? I realise AeroLogic is related to LH and that may constrain growth without LH pilot participation. Also, for AeroLogic and Cargolux newhires, what would an average month look like in terms of days away from home while on newhire reserve?

PMs also welcome. Cheers
Iver is offline  
Old 13th Feb 2011, 16:40
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Every place but home
Age: 47
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would love to fly for either Cargolux and Aerologic..have some military experience but not much and the same 300ish FATPL..However I am 34 with a lot of life experience and matured....would either of these companies consider someone like myself?
acepilotmurdock is offline  
Old 13th Feb 2011, 17:34
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Garden shed
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Dear Iver...

At the risk of sounding a tad sarcastic....
You might want to look a few threads down in this section to a thread called: "Cargolux details requested"

Wow, its has 780 replies/posts, 203,225 hits and is in its 5th year now. Thats what I would call TRUE ENLIGHTENMENT !!!!

There you will find every concievable piece of information on Cargolux, ranging from requirements, application process, selection process, interview process, lifestyle, moral, rosters, days off, days away, work conditions, social aspects....the list is now endless.
And all this by the old dogs, new dogs, bored dogs, angry dogs, happy dogs, retired dogs and sleeping dogs (dont wake those)....

So...in the time it took to write "Echo, Echo, Echo"...you could have read at least 2 or 3 lines of one of those 780 replies in the thread.

Its all there !!!!
Pow-wow is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.