Does Fedex hire in Europe?
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Does Fedex hire in Europe?
Rumours one more time indicates that Fedex would hire locals pilots in their bases in PARIS CDG & Hong Kong.
If anyone have such information, I would greatly appreciate to know a little bit more about it.
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If anyone have such information, I would greatly appreciate to know a little bit more about it.
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It seems to me that the Americans, for the most part, play by the rules. It's just that European governments seem content to accept rules that are biased in the Americans favour.
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What is wrong about US companies having US pilots based in Europe...?
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Iberia has crews based in Miami, FL, for their A320s operating the Carribean...
A French charter company has French crews based Los Angeles for their flights to Tahiti...
Japan Air Lines crews with Los Angeles base for their sector to Sao Paulo...
And in my old days with PanAm, I was based in Berlin...
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DHL operates through EAT with European crews, based Brussels...
What may happen eventually, is FedEx or UPS having small size airplanes based in Europe, operated by local pilots... Do you want to be a career captain until retirement, on a Cessna single engine...?
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Iberia has crews based in Miami, FL, for their A320s operating the Carribean...
A French charter company has French crews based Los Angeles for their flights to Tahiti...
Japan Air Lines crews with Los Angeles base for their sector to Sao Paulo...
And in my old days with PanAm, I was based in Berlin...
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DHL operates through EAT with European crews, based Brussels...
What may happen eventually, is FedEx or UPS having small size airplanes based in Europe, operated by local pilots... Do you want to be a career captain until retirement, on a Cessna single engine...?
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Fed Ex plans on basing crews in Europe and Asia, but it has not been approved by the unions yet. They are in negotiations now and will be approved once several issues are addressed. Then a bid will go out to the union. The crews will fly out of Paris but will probably live in Zurich. All the aircraft are US registered and in order to fly them you must have an FAA ATP (and FE writtens) certificate. Since Fed Ex is an ALPA union carrier, any European pilot hired would be initially based in Memphis, the junior base and would therefore have to have an American green card prior to being hired. He would then be able to bid out to Europe based on seniority, and given his very junior status probably would not get it for quite a long time. Ditto for Asia.
It isn't as simple as you might think and has nothing to do with nationality. If you meet the Fed Ex hiring requriements (you can get them on line at Fed Ex.com) you are most certainly invited to apply. It isn't easy but can be done.Working for Fed Ex is great and as they said in basic indoc "Welcome to the last flying job you will ever have". They mean it. Great company and good luck!
It isn't as simple as you might think and has nothing to do with nationality. If you meet the Fed Ex hiring requriements (you can get them on line at Fed Ex.com) you are most certainly invited to apply. It isn't easy but can be done.Working for Fed Ex is great and as they said in basic indoc "Welcome to the last flying job you will ever have". They mean it. Great company and good luck!
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I need to make a small correction in my previous post. I said any European hired when I meant any pilot hired. Bids, promotions, or bases are based on seniority only. So if you are lucky enough to get hired by Fed Ex, you will get the junior base, Memphis, and will only be eligible to be out based when your seniority is high enough to do so. Fed Ex has over 5000 pilots and hiring a class a month and given the extremely low turnover rate you could be in Memphis a very long time. By the way, Fed Ex is basing a lot of the new 757's in Europe.
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it that for definate ? I have heard all sorts of rumours about upcoming changes as to how FedEx operate in Europe. Will these 757s be taking over ATR 72 routes as operated for them by ACL ? I know a couple of those routes are close to capacity. There is also an A300 being placed in Europe from November on the DUB-STN-CDG route now that is a definate.
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EU based Americans...
I have a lady fiend who is a UPS 727 captain based in CGN, she is American-born, and has lived near Nantes (44-France) since over 15 years ago, having bought a house near the beach there. She pays France's income tax and has a permanent resident visa, etc...
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I realize the frustration of EU pilots seeing potential jobs with US air carriers, flying within EU, being operated by US crews. Yet not all is "rosy" for US crews paid in US dollars in Europe nowadays, with the exchange rate to Euro currency. This makes US pilots rather underpaid in comparison with EU pilot salaries operating with EU airlines.
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As to being based in Europe for American pilots, being "high seniority", it is not necessarily so. I know many Americans who absolutely hate European life and different living standards, being forced to often speak a local language, and not finding a hamburger on the menu of most restaurants. I am a native of Belgium, became American citizen to work for PanAm until their bankruptcy to eventually ending my pilot career in Argentina. I would not trade my Buenos Aires for a job in Europe or USA, despite the dire economic problems Argentina suffered in 2002. For me, buying a cup of coffee (no refills) in Madrid or Rome with my Argentina Pesos forces me to take a bank loan.
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After PanAm "bust" in 1991, a few pilots went to Japan, to fly for JAL, and had to suffer 8 months of "retraining" to be JAL 747 captains, when they had 5,000 hours of command time on the same 747s with PanAm. I rather take a pistol and shoot myself, to be subject to Japanese brain washing, and having to live in a 3x2 meters room in a Tokyo hotel, although I like sushi...
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Friends, we are all pilots, fly the same planes in the same skies. I am rather international myself, would you say...? Maybe the problem is with flight schools that advertise the airline pilot careers (for their own benefit) with the high salaries (that never materialize), and the "many jobs" that do not exist... and the national governments who put barriers with visas, citizenship and licencing requirements.
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I personally do not tag people by their citizenship. There are nice people in any parts of the world, and there are also idiots in all countries, I am sorry to say. And many of these idiots have management positions with airlines.
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I realize the frustration of EU pilots seeing potential jobs with US air carriers, flying within EU, being operated by US crews. Yet not all is "rosy" for US crews paid in US dollars in Europe nowadays, with the exchange rate to Euro currency. This makes US pilots rather underpaid in comparison with EU pilot salaries operating with EU airlines.
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As to being based in Europe for American pilots, being "high seniority", it is not necessarily so. I know many Americans who absolutely hate European life and different living standards, being forced to often speak a local language, and not finding a hamburger on the menu of most restaurants. I am a native of Belgium, became American citizen to work for PanAm until their bankruptcy to eventually ending my pilot career in Argentina. I would not trade my Buenos Aires for a job in Europe or USA, despite the dire economic problems Argentina suffered in 2002. For me, buying a cup of coffee (no refills) in Madrid or Rome with my Argentina Pesos forces me to take a bank loan.
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After PanAm "bust" in 1991, a few pilots went to Japan, to fly for JAL, and had to suffer 8 months of "retraining" to be JAL 747 captains, when they had 5,000 hours of command time on the same 747s with PanAm. I rather take a pistol and shoot myself, to be subject to Japanese brain washing, and having to live in a 3x2 meters room in a Tokyo hotel, although I like sushi...
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Friends, we are all pilots, fly the same planes in the same skies. I am rather international myself, would you say...? Maybe the problem is with flight schools that advertise the airline pilot careers (for their own benefit) with the high salaries (that never materialize), and the "many jobs" that do not exist... and the national governments who put barriers with visas, citizenship and licencing requirements.
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I personally do not tag people by their citizenship. There are nice people in any parts of the world, and there are also idiots in all countries, I am sorry to say. And many of these idiots have management positions with airlines.
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Well said, well said. However, I lived in Japan and after the anal training was just like any other airline. I stayed 14 years and hardly ever ate sushi (can't stand seaweed). If I had not gotten old and the contracts expired, I would still be there. I think I can confidently speak for the other crews that lived and worked there.
You are also right about seniority but there are an awful lot of Fed Ex pilots. I am not sure of the actual number but it is over 5000.
I will say one thing for anyone wanting to work for Fed Ex; you will not find a better company to work for.
You are also right about seniority but there are an awful lot of Fed Ex pilots. I am not sure of the actual number but it is over 5000.
I will say one thing for anyone wanting to work for Fed Ex; you will not find a better company to work for.
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UPS does NOT have a crew base in CGN. Their only crew bases are SDF, ONT, MIA, and ANC.
Her trip may have her flying in and out of CGN, but with a commercial or company DH on the front and back end of her trips to position her. Seeing as how she lives close, she is probably senior enough hold the trips and not have to take the DH.
However, with the phase out of the 727 in August, her life will probably become much different.
Her trip may have her flying in and out of CGN, but with a commercial or company DH on the front and back end of her trips to position her. Seeing as how she lives close, she is probably senior enough hold the trips and not have to take the DH.
However, with the phase out of the 727 in August, her life will probably become much different.
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No CGN base???
Hola Dojetdrive -
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I dont know where she is based then, all I know, she was flying most of her trips out of CGN, commuting there from Nantes with the railroads rather than flying there. Have not talked to her in a couple of years...
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As to UPS (I always get surprised) - I did not even know they once had passenger service. Saw a 727-100 parked next to my plane in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic (summer 2001), unloading passengers that looked like tourists going to the beach to me...
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I know many crews with foreign (non-US carriers) "based" in ANC, flying cargo 747s from Asia. Whether they are actually based there, or operating all their flights out of there, I dont know... Myself, a few years ago, did a 3 months-long contract to train 747 crews for MK Air Cargo. The planes were then Ghana registry, the company office was near LGW, and I was operating all my trips out of LUX or AMS... I dont even know where the "base" was, and most of the guys I flew with, were from South Africa and Zimbabwe. A bit confusing, shall I say. The only time I was in Ghana was to get a licence validation from the local CAA...
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And when I flew a 6 month contract with Cargolux in 1992, I was based in LUX, all the crews were expatriates. I think they only had 2 Luxembourg citizens among their pilots...! So, where one is "based" does not mean a lot. For me, my "base" is where my bed is, home or hotel...
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I dont know where she is based then, all I know, she was flying most of her trips out of CGN, commuting there from Nantes with the railroads rather than flying there. Have not talked to her in a couple of years...
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As to UPS (I always get surprised) - I did not even know they once had passenger service. Saw a 727-100 parked next to my plane in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic (summer 2001), unloading passengers that looked like tourists going to the beach to me...
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I know many crews with foreign (non-US carriers) "based" in ANC, flying cargo 747s from Asia. Whether they are actually based there, or operating all their flights out of there, I dont know... Myself, a few years ago, did a 3 months-long contract to train 747 crews for MK Air Cargo. The planes were then Ghana registry, the company office was near LGW, and I was operating all my trips out of LUX or AMS... I dont even know where the "base" was, and most of the guys I flew with, were from South Africa and Zimbabwe. A bit confusing, shall I say. The only time I was in Ghana was to get a licence validation from the local CAA...
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And when I flew a 6 month contract with Cargolux in 1992, I was based in LUX, all the crews were expatriates. I think they only had 2 Luxembourg citizens among their pilots...! So, where one is "based" does not mean a lot. For me, my "base" is where my bed is, home or hotel...
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Hi,
Your friend's company in CGN is probably STAR AIR and used to operate 727's in UPS livery. In the meantime they have a bunch of 767-200 with a different livery...they have a new contract with UPS over a certain period of time (10 years??)!!
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Your friend's company in CGN is probably STAR AIR and used to operate 727's in UPS livery. In the meantime they have a bunch of 767-200 with a different livery...they have a new contract with UPS over a certain period of time (10 years??)!!
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Probaly to fly an N-reg aircraft, for a US company, would require FAA tickets. I am sure there are many Non US citizens with FAA tickets but anyone based in Europe will be the result of an internal promotion rather than a direct entry application.
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Fed Ex is basing our own crews in Europe and Asia. If you want to fly for Fed Ex in these areas you need to apply to Fed Ex directly (fedex.com) and meet the requirements, and they are quite high. Chances are you will be based in Memphis first and then you would have to bid out, strictly by seniority. It isn't easy, but if you make it, you will never work for a better company. Fed Ex is hiring with classes starting every month.
