Cougar.....no more
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parcelpuppy I think my hunch may not be a hunch but an educated correct guess. I too will be watching this very closely. I think I now know where people are coming from on here. I may be new to Pprune but I ain't daft 
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bacardi walla,
I am glad that you are not daft. Unfortunately I am. I did not get out quick enough. Never mind in the next life I am going to come back as an Administrator.Their scam fee alone would have paid off nearly half of the Cougar employees that got f*****.
I am glad that you are not daft. Unfortunately I am. I did not get out quick enough. Never mind in the next life I am going to come back as an Administrator.Their scam fee alone would have paid off nearly half of the Cougar employees that got f*****.
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Yes I think SCAM is the right word for what's happening - the 2 threads "cougar no more and Globespan" are very well connected in more ways than one. Maybe someone from the UK CAA would care to add a comment or two 
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Bacardi walla,
I do not know to which," other side of the bar" you refer, but the bar some of us are working very closely with, is doing a lot of digging and finding out more s*** each day. When the final day of reckoning arrives no body will be immune from adding their comments to the story.
I do not know to which," other side of the bar" you refer, but the bar some of us are working very closely with, is doing a lot of digging and finding out more s*** each day. When the final day of reckoning arrives no body will be immune from adding their comments to the story.
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parcelpuppy rest assured, we are on the same wave length. The trouble is, when the final day of reckoning arrives, will it make a difference what is actually unwrapped? I have friends, good aircrew, who lost their jobs through the demise of Cougar. I appreciate that these things do happen, but it's the way in which it happened that has p155ed me off. They (friends) need answers and deserve those answers. If the so called management team behind Cougar are now behind Globespan then I think the digging needs to be done a bit deeper. 
We await to see what other sh** will be exposed.
We await to see what other sh** will be exposed.
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It now seems that following positions are:
1) Cougar FOD is now Globespan FOD.
2) Chief Trainer (admin) Cougar is Globespan Chief Pilot.
3) ex Cougar/ Astreus pilot now Chief Trainer (not admin)
4) ex Cougar/ Astreus pilot possible Fleet Manager
5) 2 ex Cougar copilots paying for 737 rating
6) ex Cougar MD now consultant!
7) ex Cougar Eng Director repreived
8) ex Cougar Quality control re employed
9) 2 office staff ex Cougar Re hired.
Job details in Flight and Balpa website.
258 creditors now only 247 so justice is not only being done but seen to be done!
1) Cougar FOD is now Globespan FOD.
2) Chief Trainer (admin) Cougar is Globespan Chief Pilot.
3) ex Cougar/ Astreus pilot now Chief Trainer (not admin)
4) ex Cougar/ Astreus pilot possible Fleet Manager
5) 2 ex Cougar copilots paying for 737 rating
6) ex Cougar MD now consultant!
7) ex Cougar Eng Director repreived
8) ex Cougar Quality control re employed
9) 2 office staff ex Cougar Re hired.
Job details in Flight and Balpa website.
258 creditors now only 247 so justice is not only being done but seen to be done!
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I'd say the fraud office needs to know about Mr F and soon. I also see they require an Ops Control Manager, but I bet they won't ask the ex Cougar Ops Manager. In fact, I know they won't.
I wonder if Globespan themselves really know the truth. Think a phone call to them is required.
I wonder if Globespan themselves really know the truth. Think a phone call to them is required.
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....and how on earth can the ex Cougar MD now be a consultant for Globespan? This is seriously out of order and I bet Globespan (tour operator) don't actually know the full ins and outs of these ex Cougar people. Outrageous.
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papa noel and what do you think the little man will be saying to Globespan? A pack of lies maybe like he did in a previous life ??? Seems parcel puppy has his finger on the pulse with who is being recruited for the new 737 venture, maybe he should be the one to call Globespan and spill some beans (as a creditor of Cougar who is owed dosh)....
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Please be in NO DOUBT 10 minutes.
I am actively doing everything legally possible to help bring these persons to justice.
I am paying the price already by being black balled from several chances of jobs simply because I chose to stand up and be counted.
One of the advantages of being penniless and unemployed and now apparently unemployable, is that I have loads of time to study the law.
Outspan are aware of what has happened and who perpetrated the respective scams.
When the day of reckoning comes I will make damn sure that everyone knows the whole truth.
To be honest with you if I never fly again it would be worth it to see the guilty pay the price.
This industry has been hijacked over recent years by immoral second rate con men while most of us " professional" aircrew just sat back and let it happen.Well now we are paying the price for such apathy.
I dont expect much support and I dont really care what anybody thinks about me . However I will not be disenfranchised by this bunch of bastards.
If they think they knew me before when I got angry, they aint seen nothing yet!
Edited to remove a "c" word. Hogg
I am actively doing everything legally possible to help bring these persons to justice.
I am paying the price already by being black balled from several chances of jobs simply because I chose to stand up and be counted.
One of the advantages of being penniless and unemployed and now apparently unemployable, is that I have loads of time to study the law.
Outspan are aware of what has happened and who perpetrated the respective scams.
When the day of reckoning comes I will make damn sure that everyone knows the whole truth.
To be honest with you if I never fly again it would be worth it to see the guilty pay the price.
This industry has been hijacked over recent years by immoral second rate con men while most of us " professional" aircrew just sat back and let it happen.Well now we are paying the price for such apathy.
I dont expect much support and I dont really care what anybody thinks about me . However I will not be disenfranchised by this bunch of bastards.
If they think they knew me before when I got angry, they aint seen nothing yet!
Edited to remove a "c" word. Hogg
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Parcelpuppy-I take my Hat of to you-Well Said!
Hey G, nice to see your not giving up the fight, you and the rest of us have come this far, time for the pay off, the future is so bright we all gotta were shades!
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