Cougar.....no more
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The 2 Freighters will be off to the States very soon 
This cats been sick for a long time, now its time
for the CAA Vet to put it to sleep. Lets face it
the game is over, the staff have been screwed
over again, and the managment (sic) have got
away with it.
Viking 9 and 3000psi are the lucky ones they have
jobs, or jobs to go to at any rate.
Good luck to all the staff and crews hope you all
get something better soon.
Good riddance to the management.
This cats been sick for a long time, now its time
for the CAA Vet to put it to sleep. Lets face it
the game is over, the staff have been screwed
over again, and the managment (sic) have got
away with it.
Viking 9 and 3000psi are the lucky ones they have
jobs, or jobs to go to at any rate.
Good luck to all the staff and crews hope you all
get something better soon.
Good riddance to the management.
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I was chatting last night to one of the former ops staff who explained how this all came about. It seems to me as though BF Goodrich literally shafted this company, it would be interesting if to hear their side of the story was it just they needed to get their hands on cash fast, or was their more to it. Why send a company that is making money under especially as they had money tied up in it as well
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Cougar - make money. Do the 2 go together ? Maybe.
Tarek Nor Doing very well thank you and you will be soon
And for all ex Cougar flight crew - click here EU jet it may be of some help.
Tarek Nor Doing very well thank you and you will be soon
And for all ex Cougar flight crew - click here EU jet it may be of some help.
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Uninitated as I am (also read ignorant) in these matters...
If BF Goodrich want the engines back, what would Cougar have to do? By flying the aircraft back to the states, does it mean they'll be parked up for sale or scrapping? Who owns the airframe? Would it be financially viable to just take the engines off at SEN and send them back airfreight then scrap the aircraft for spares here? Who pays for the engine transportation/ferry flight?
Just a few questions...I'm sure I'll think of the answers as soon as I've posted!
HalesAndPace - Who's the ex-HLA Loadie then?
If BF Goodrich want the engines back, what would Cougar have to do? By flying the aircraft back to the states, does it mean they'll be parked up for sale or scrapping? Who owns the airframe? Would it be financially viable to just take the engines off at SEN and send them back airfreight then scrap the aircraft for spares here? Who pays for the engine transportation/ferry flight?
Just a few questions...I'm sure I'll think of the answers as soon as I've posted!
HalesAndPace - Who's the ex-HLA Loadie then?
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M M,
Hey zebeedee ! fancy one for the road, to warm you up !!! in memories of those scandinavian snow storms ?!? unfortunately....I' ve got the feeling our airplanes , will turn into non-stick frying pan very soon !!!
Hey zebeedee ! fancy one for the road, to warm you up !!! in memories of those scandinavian snow storms ?!? unfortunately....I' ve got the feeling our airplanes , will turn into non-stick frying pan very soon !!!
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3000psi - The Scandihooligan snowstorms were a piece of piss, it was the Belgian ones that blew ice-cold straight through every single layer of clothing you owned! Now that pissed me off! Not even the Hawiian Grass Skirt Dance could warm you up! What made it worse was that there were three guys not 20 feet from you, in shirt sleeves!! Not impressed at all.....
Oops pardon me
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People forget the KN has given loads of first time jet jocks a chance to get hours on a jet both with Cougar and Sabre.
If you had to rely on the big boys to give you a chance then there would be a lot fewer chances in the industry.
Sabre and Cougar were unique in their approach and no one could expect it to be run like BA. They made money in a difficult market and gave employment to a great number of people for a good length of time. If you werent happy with your lot when you was there, you did what u did in any job......move on.
I think the Cat will be back in some other guise quite soon so and I wish then luck in their endeavours.
As for the seven twenty seven......well you might think its dead in the water but you cant keep a good plane down....ask Air Contractors and EAT.
Stop yer winging and just be grateful for the good times you had there.
I was and will look back with fond memories!
Coopervane
If you had to rely on the big boys to give you a chance then there would be a lot fewer chances in the industry.
Sabre and Cougar were unique in their approach and no one could expect it to be run like BA. They made money in a difficult market and gave employment to a great number of people for a good length of time. If you werent happy with your lot when you was there, you did what u did in any job......move on.
I think the Cat will be back in some other guise quite soon so and I wish then luck in their endeavours.
As for the seven twenty seven......well you might think its dead in the water but you cant keep a good plane down....ask Air Contractors and EAT.
Stop yer winging and just be grateful for the good times you had there.
I was and will look back with fond memories!
Coopervane
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Be fair...!
KN has given loads of first time jet jocks a chance to get hours on a jet both with Cougar
to be fair with the "first time jet jocks " they ' ll be grateful to you, coz , as you know a very controversial , and sour subject which ,I think you are very brave to bring on this thread , I can hear the wind of war coming !!!
Pax Vobiscum
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Exactly the question all are asking something is amiss here as other airlines would not get away with it. Maybe time to ask the authorities. Then again they have got away with things that are unbelievable!
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The Cat is dead long live (who gives a damn!)
Papa Noel and the rest of the executed.
Why are you bothering to pursue anything? It's over the Cat is dead all that is left is a bad smell and that will be gone soon. We all saw it coming and no one is surprised one bit that it died in the circumstances that it did. I dought that the Democratic Dictator will be caring at all, He will be running to the hills of Essex with his well protected bag of money and if he has any sense never set foot in the Aviation Industry again. Cougar was a very interesting adventure for us all and I am sure that we have all gained a lot of experience and scars for our time spent with the Cat.
Good luck to one and all for your Future.
No one realy likes bitter anyway.
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eventually!!
Why are you bothering to pursue anything? It's over the Cat is dead all that is left is a bad smell and that will be gone soon. We all saw it coming and no one is surprised one bit that it died in the circumstances that it did. I dought that the Democratic Dictator will be caring at all, He will be running to the hills of Essex with his well protected bag of money and if he has any sense never set foot in the Aviation Industry again. Cougar was a very interesting adventure for us all and I am sure that we have all gained a lot of experience and scars for our time spent with the Cat.
Good luck to one and all for your Future.
No one realy likes bitter anyway.
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Every cloud has a silver lining so the saying goes
For those that had to pay for the 727 rating the demise of the company alleviates the debt burden.
For those that were made redundant, for standing up to the management, by the infamous letter on the doorstep. May be retribution has been served
For those that remained a chance to concentrate their whole energy into finding employment. Good luck
For those that had to pay for the 727 rating the demise of the company alleviates the debt burden.
For those that were made redundant, for standing up to the management, by the infamous letter on the doorstep. May be retribution has been served
For those that remained a chance to concentrate their whole energy into finding employment. Good luck
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Tis Life in aviation, either put up or get out,hard call sometimes! Coopervane has been there,as have many others, there's nothing louder than a whine from a jet engine other than aircrew!Still I have sympathy for those who have not been paid, but Goodrich have been the instigaters of the demise of cougar and 2 other airlines. K.N. has put the company in the hands of the administrators for good reasons . Just think He's been stuffed as well.
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I do not think we are worried about what happened to Cougar it is just very frustrating that they are still operating when they did so much damage to so many people. And not the MD the sidekick had most to do with it. As for paying for a type rating was that all they paid for or did they buy the job? Also maybe not all clear that Goodrich are at fault!
I do not think we are worried about what happened to Cougar it is just very frustrating that they are still operating when they did so much damage to so many people. And not the MD the sidekick had most to do with it. As for paying for a type rating was that all they paid for or did they buy the job? Also maybe not all clear that Goodrich are at fault!