Cougar.....no more
I am really sorry to hear about the demise of Cougar. They were a great bunch of blokes who always seemed to be going from one management crisis or another but still got on with it. I shall miss them.
I wish all of you every luck in finding new and gainful employment and very soon.
I wish all of you every luck in finding new and gainful employment and very soon.
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Are you sure that Cougar has gone?
Or has it just retired to its den to lick its wounds.
It certainly would be sad to lose yet another UK freight company whilst the rest of the world operates with impunity within Europe.
But there have been lots of rumours about internal strife within the company on previous postings to this site!
Or has it just retired to its den to lick its wounds.
It certainly would be sad to lose yet another UK freight company whilst the rest of the world operates with impunity within Europe.
But there have been lots of rumours about internal strife within the company on previous postings to this site!
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The story so far as I understand is this.-Goodrich have called the lease agreement for the 217 engines as they require them for a 707 conversion. The ac are parked up at SEN this weekend but maybe have one more week with TNT before being flown back to USA. It will be a real shame because they will be the last G reg 727
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Cougar
I left Cougar some time ago.
To all the Operations Staff, Engineers, Loadmasters and Pilots I wish you all the very best for the future. You were a talented and nice bunch of people I am sure that you will all do very well.
What a unique experience Cougar Leasing Ltd/Cougar Air Cargo were.
To all the Operations Staff, Engineers, Loadmasters and Pilots I wish you all the very best for the future. You were a talented and nice bunch of people I am sure that you will all do very well.
What a unique experience Cougar Leasing Ltd/Cougar Air Cargo were.
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We were in Ath last week
We were in ATH last week. Little did we know it! The last flight out was on Friday night. Hopefully, despite all the stories, the cat has some of it's lives left and will be up and running again soon.
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I left the company a while ago when a few were got rid of for telling a few home truths. Good luck to the good guys but it couldnt have happened to a better managment. I am sure the whole truth will come out in good time and believe me it is good enough for national press.
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Fly_146 if you knew the real sordid truth about this company you would understand while I smile. As others have remarked, it's a shame about the good people involved. As for the bad people, well, I reserve judgement and smile again
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Viking9 I know you have your axe to grind with Cougar but you left some time ago, I cannot understand why you would get pleasure from seeing the company go down knowing A lot of people (of which I am one will be out of a job) .Instead of gloating why not try giving a bit more sympathy to the good people who were just trying to make a living.
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Oh well, better get on to those contacts we've all got....!
The company are keeping on a token staff of 8 to keep the AOC going with the TU204, but I was told that can only carry on for a year.
There's always a chance of a new type, after all they've been looking at plenty during the last year!
Good luck to everyone, it's certainly been a pleasure working with you all. Hope our paths cross again sometime.
Regards
The company are keeping on a token staff of 8 to keep the AOC going with the TU204, but I was told that can only carry on for a year.
There's always a chance of a new type, after all they've been looking at plenty during the last year!
Good luck to everyone, it's certainly been a pleasure working with you all. Hope our paths cross again sometime.
Regards
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STAGE COACH DRIVER I didn't leave as you mention, I found out that I was no longer on the payroll because the postman delivered a letter to me one Friday morning. Under employment law, the employer is supposed to discuss redundancies with his/her employee before making their decisions and not to be told by the postman !
I have no axe to grind, but it saddened me at the time that so called loyal and professional people, with whom I've known for many years, can turn out to be twisted and down right ugly. How they can get away with the lies and deceit is beyond me. We all know who they are so there is no point in going any further on that subject.
I do feel sorry though for those, like you, who now find themselves out of work but my advice to them and you, is to do what I did. Get another job straight away and put the whole experience behind them. Good people find good jobs because good people will always rise above the ashes and survive. Just like I have.
Maybe now others will come out with the truth about Cougar Leasing and the so called "loyalty" from it's owner. I for one don't care that the company has closed or is closing. I do however, as mentioned above, care for those who are good decent people who will now have to pick up the pieces and start again.
major1 I wouldn't hold out too much, too many lies means not too many aircraft. MD11's, B737's, B747's, L1011's and oh, to all the ex cabin crew, yes, you were lied to also.
I have no axe to grind, but it saddened me at the time that so called loyal and professional people, with whom I've known for many years, can turn out to be twisted and down right ugly. How they can get away with the lies and deceit is beyond me. We all know who they are so there is no point in going any further on that subject.
I do feel sorry though for those, like you, who now find themselves out of work but my advice to them and you, is to do what I did. Get another job straight away and put the whole experience behind them. Good people find good jobs because good people will always rise above the ashes and survive. Just like I have.
Maybe now others will come out with the truth about Cougar Leasing and the so called "loyalty" from it's owner. I for one don't care that the company has closed or is closing. I do however, as mentioned above, care for those who are good decent people who will now have to pick up the pieces and start again.
major1 I wouldn't hold out too much, too many lies means not too many aircraft. MD11's, B737's, B747's, L1011's and oh, to all the ex cabin crew, yes, you were lied to also.
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I do not think the engines will be used for a 707 conversion, it would not be viable, the best conversion for old 707s these days is to non stick frying pans. As an ex 707 jock when the president of the US of A stopped flying in one I took the hint!
I think the most likely scenario is that someone owes someone else some money, but that is no comfort to the crews about to be laid off.
I hope the crews at Cougar can recover from this.
I think the most likely scenario is that someone owes someone else some money, but that is no comfort to the crews about to be laid off.
I hope the crews at Cougar can recover from this.
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Apparently the engines are destined for the US military.
BF Goodrich had a clause in the engine lease agreement allowing them to give Cougar 5 days notice to return the engines.
If the military were desperate for the engines, BF G could name their price. As long as the figure was more than what Cougar were paying, they're bound to take 'em back and watch even more money roll in than before.
I've no idea which aircraft they would need them for, maybe KC135's if they've been blatting around the Gulf at full chat?!
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BF Goodrich had a clause in the engine lease agreement allowing them to give Cougar 5 days notice to return the engines.
If the military were desperate for the engines, BF G could name their price. As long as the figure was more than what Cougar were paying, they're bound to take 'em back and watch even more money roll in than before.
I've no idea which aircraft they would need them for, maybe KC135's if they've been blatting around the Gulf at full chat?!
Viking9 - Private message coming your way....