BAC Express redundancies
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It was long overdue that Royal Mail would goto Pastures New.
I wonder how long they can keep the Fedex Work going. By the time I left both SH36/F27 crew were all on a low due to the way they were treated by MF / JS.
In the time I was there the turnover of staff was high but again staff need to be recognised and not criticized in the job they do.
Good luck to who is left at BAC
I wonder how long they can keep the Fedex Work going. By the time I left both SH36/F27 crew were all on a low due to the way they were treated by MF / JS.
In the time I was there the turnover of staff was high but again staff need to be recognised and not criticized in the job they do.
Good luck to who is left at BAC
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Seems MF + JS have a lot to answer for. Wasn't it MF's idea that he could get anyone off the street to work in Ops and then blamed them severely when things went wrong? Seems the Ops Manager has gone and yet MF didn't recognise his abilities and skills so yet another good egg gone. Some of the previous ops guys were good at their job too and yet again, MF didn't care and let them go......
I'd say the writing is on the wall for this lot..... good luck to those who remain.
I'd say the writing is on the wall for this lot..... good luck to those who remain.
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There was a good bunch in Ops but MF Never realised that morale was down and out. MF/JS always thought they could drag anyone in off the street and they would stay there because of what MF did for them...
People like MB needed to get out all the pilots respected him and knew that his hands were tied.
Sell the company...mmm would be the best idea, but MF still thinks he is in his Dan Air days and he forgets that it is 2003 now.
The only way they will survive is with getting rid of people like MF / JS and get a new bunch in there and organise and get it running properly. Give people a proper pay structure and recognise what people do for the company
People like MB needed to get out all the pilots respected him and knew that his hands were tied.
Sell the company...mmm would be the best idea, but MF still thinks he is in his Dan Air days and he forgets that it is 2003 now.
The only way they will survive is with getting rid of people like MF / JS and get a new bunch in there and organise and get it running properly. Give people a proper pay structure and recognise what people do for the company
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Ah thats it, the vultures who 'know it all' are circling.
Well wrong on many counts to who ever it may concern.
BAC have made redundancies that is of course is true, and some good guys will be lost, that is inevitable.
FedEx remains strong and at the end of the day, lets face it Channel and Titan were always in a much better position with any post office jet contracts because, er durr they have the experience !! (The know it alls should know that... shouldnt thay.......shouldnt they ??)
Oh for anyone interested if it were not for MF the company would have disintegrated a long time ago, chaps for the real story you have to look a bit higher to spot the general maliase that has gone on here for a long time, but then if you know it all then you will know that !!
What a shame the moaners and haters will go, we will miss you, but only till er..the 11th of January !!
Long live BAC and all that sails in her !!
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Well wrong on many counts to who ever it may concern.
BAC have made redundancies that is of course is true, and some good guys will be lost, that is inevitable.
FedEx remains strong and at the end of the day, lets face it Channel and Titan were always in a much better position with any post office jet contracts because, er durr they have the experience !! (The know it alls should know that... shouldnt thay.......shouldnt they ??)
Oh for anyone interested if it were not for MF the company would have disintegrated a long time ago, chaps for the real story you have to look a bit higher to spot the general maliase that has gone on here for a long time, but then if you know it all then you will know that !!
What a shame the moaners and haters will go, we will miss you, but only till er..the 11th of January !!
Long live BAC and all that sails in her !!
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No one needs to actually buy BAC, just pick up the contracts when the whole sorry mess falls over.
Emerald nearly bought BAC last year but bought Streamline as it fitted better their operating style.
Emerald will be the front runners for the Fedex contracts due their close ties within France.
Look out for the bones of BAc being picked over quite soon. Very sad, but the result of crap management.
Emerald nearly bought BAC last year but bought Streamline as it fitted better their operating style.
Emerald will be the front runners for the Fedex contracts due their close ties within France.
Look out for the bones of BAc being picked over quite soon. Very sad, but the result of crap management.
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Obviuosly The Streets is trying to defend his corner!!!
I am surprised that the Fed-Ex work is still being done by BAC there is only so much a company will accept and it will not be
long before they move to a decent carrier.
If there was new management then maybe they could get out of this mess that they have got into ..
My thoughts go with the pilots at this time of the year
I am surprised that the Fed-Ex work is still being done by BAC there is only so much a company will accept and it will not be
long before they move to a decent carrier.
If there was new management then maybe they could get out of this mess that they have got into ..
My thoughts go with the pilots at this time of the year
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I hear that the quality manager has left or is about to. Damn fine bloke by all acounts but where does this leave the stability of the AOC? With over 15 aircraft, no ops manager, no quality manager and things getting worse, how long will the CAA allow this to go on ? 
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I didn't realise that they had lost there Quality Manager. He is a great chap But never thought he would take too much of people like MF.
No Ops Manager again, this company goes through more Ops Managers than SH36's.. Feel sorry for those guys in Ops
So where lies the Future of BAC Express????? I think it could be a rocky road, they need new management to try and boost the airline into the current day and not the 70/80's and like said previously with MF / JS there they may aswell close up shop
Good Luck to all the SH36 Pilots that have been laid off .. Good lot of pilots there.. Just hope F27 Pilots are looking at other airlines to join
No Ops Manager again, this company goes through more Ops Managers than SH36's.. Feel sorry for those guys in Ops
So where lies the Future of BAC Express????? I think it could be a rocky road, they need new management to try and boost the airline into the current day and not the 70/80's and like said previously with MF / JS there they may aswell close up shop
Good Luck to all the SH36 Pilots that have been laid off .. Good lot of pilots there.. Just hope F27 Pilots are looking at other airlines to join
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I hope the commercial director got a new calculator and instruction book for christmas, then maybe he will be more realistic with his future quotations, rather than the mess up he made with the Fedex and Royal Mail work.
Whats this Neil? ACL buying BAC? What they after, the Fedex routes? Or are BAC trying to operate their virtual ATR on ACL's aoc?
Whats this Neil? ACL buying BAC? What they after, the Fedex routes? Or are BAC trying to operate their virtual ATR on ACL's aoc?
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Presumably BAC hold route licences on behalf of FDX? If so, I'd guess that ACL would be up for grabbing them rather than trying to buy out BAC. From what I know of the so-called management down there, they (ACL) would be doing a good job if they left the management team behind in Bonehurst Road. Many good people have come and gone over the years. The ops team was or could have been well worth hanging onto. Led by a good bloke at the top who was always getting his ears bashed by MF despite the cock ups that MF caused himself. Blame culture ruled in the offices and will continue to do so while MF is still there. The guy (MF) clearly needs to move on and catch up with the real world of aviation if BAC is to succeed. But that ain't gonna happen is it ?
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I'm a firm believer in what goes around, comes around.
SEPT 95, I had bought my own Shed type rating and was offered a temp F/O posn. at NCL for BAC Express, with assurances from the then CP a fine man called EB. I was told one week before Christmas that my contract was to be made permanent after the New Year so renewed lease on my flat and looked forward to the future.
We landed back at NCL early hours of Christmas Eve and I was presented with a fax. from MF wishing me a Merry Christmas but that my contract wasn't to be re-newed after all. It was transmitted 10 mins after we departed NCL at the start of the last Ex`NCL rotation before the Christmas 'Shutdown'. Fortunately myself and 2 other 'Rapex Refugee's' landed jobs within a couple of months with Gene Wilson's Zappers. You cannot imagine the contrast between the 2 types of operation.
BAC was crappier than crap.
Titan was smooth, informal,friendly yet professional and got every ammount of effort WILLINGLY out of its staff,run by people who cared and understood the value of a loyal workforce. Long may they reign.
Long may MF and PS be aviation outcasts and pariahs. The industry just doesn't need them!!
SEPT 95, I had bought my own Shed type rating and was offered a temp F/O posn. at NCL for BAC Express, with assurances from the then CP a fine man called EB. I was told one week before Christmas that my contract was to be made permanent after the New Year so renewed lease on my flat and looked forward to the future.
We landed back at NCL early hours of Christmas Eve and I was presented with a fax. from MF wishing me a Merry Christmas but that my contract wasn't to be re-newed after all. It was transmitted 10 mins after we departed NCL at the start of the last Ex`NCL rotation before the Christmas 'Shutdown'. Fortunately myself and 2 other 'Rapex Refugee's' landed jobs within a couple of months with Gene Wilson's Zappers. You cannot imagine the contrast between the 2 types of operation.
BAC was crappier than crap.
Titan was smooth, informal,friendly yet professional and got every ammount of effort WILLINGLY out of its staff,run by people who cared and understood the value of a loyal workforce. Long may they reign.
Long may MF and PS be aviation outcasts and pariahs. The industry just doesn't need them!!