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Old 3rd Feb 2022, 07:58
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You just keep supping the Kool Aid STW.

I'll pass.
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Old 3rd Feb 2022, 08:39
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You just keep supping the Kool Aid STW.

I'll pass.
Very wise. You wonít look back.
Theyíve managed to [email protected] over arguably one of the best places to live in Asia, famed for its free press and expression, quality of life etc etc ( cage dwellers aside and that is an abomination) in to a dystopian state, with no opposition and no kick back. In the absence of any credible restrictions, theyíve taken it to almost unconscionable levels, policy made up on the hoof, with too much plausibility given to so called SMEís, and a CHC out of control, camps, excessive testing, witch hunts, and expecting the one part of the population thatís actually doing anything for the economy to behave like automatons. The collateral and mental health damage as a result will be measured in years. Itís bad enough in so called democratic countries. Covid has given governments of various hues unbridled powers to lock up their citizens, and apply all sorts of restrictions that, frankly, should not have been tolerated.
The CCP have ripped up the Basic Law a couple of decades early, and turned the place in to yet another Chinese 3rd tier city, with a massive brain and talent drain to boot. And theyíre welcome to it now.
Which, having spent the greater part of my working life there, is lamentable.

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Old 3rd Feb 2022, 11:11
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100% agree. HK government is now finishing off what rioters couldn't. The total destruction of HK as a World City. I never had any problems with 1997, et al. But this is different. Much worse, and irreversible I would say
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Old 3rd Feb 2022, 20:06
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Yup, 100% spot on posts.
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Old 3rd Feb 2022, 22:50
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STW is correct, Glob is wrong.
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Old 3rd Feb 2022, 23:25
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Well. The original laconic reply. Wholly appropriate for a Greek stoic perhaps. Which I doubt from the level of rhetoric you are.
That said: given that Iíve managed to avoid the inside of a container for 21 days, have not been subjected to unnecessary incarceration in an hotel for days on end, in the vain hope that I can keep my job, or worse, keep deluding myself that my efforts will keep the shell of a formerly great company going, I know which political system Iíd rather be under. And it ainít the CCP.
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Old 4th Feb 2022, 02:13
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100% agree. HK government is now finishing off what rioters couldn't. The total destruction of HK as a World City. I never had any problems with 1997, et al. But this is different. Much worse, and irreversible I would say
- There would have been no riots at all if Calamity Lickspittle had swiftly withdrawn her extradition bill when 1 - 2 million peaceful people protested on the streets.


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Old 4th Feb 2022, 02:41
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Originally Posted by Globocnik View Post
The CCP have ripped up the Basic Law a couple of decades early, and turned the place in to yet another Chinese 3rd tier city.
Originally Posted by Sam Ting Wong View Post
HK is been treated as what it is now, another Chinese province.
Maybe a misunderstanding? Glob and I do say the same, Clog did probably not bother to even read my answer ( which is ok, he must be exhausted in his new job;-)
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Old 4th Feb 2022, 10:21
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100% agree. HK government is now finishing off what rioters couldn't. The total destruction of HK as a World City. I never had any problems with 1997, et al. But this is different. Much worse, and irreversible I would say

They don't like the Canton culture. Too superficial and too much drama
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Old 4th Feb 2022, 10:57
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It's done, the gates are open. 56 new unlinked cases.

There is no stopping that.

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and thats just the ones who were tested, so many others will either be asymptomatic or wont get tested for a cold due to the ramifications of testing positive. Reap what you sow
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Old 4th Feb 2022, 11:28
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Yes, you'd have to be crazy to admit you have it. Soon it will start showing up from people randomly showing up in the hospital for unrelated reasons.
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Old 4th Feb 2022, 11:43
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Yes, you'd have to be crazy to admit you have it. Soon it will start showing up from people randomly showing up in the hospital for unrelated reasons.
Already has, started with an old guy in for a hip replacement.
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Old 4th Feb 2022, 11:49
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Old guy, hope he's vaccinated. Shame they only had one year to do so..
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The researchers seem to find it in sewage first. There are several areas of Hong Kong where the virus has been detected in sewage outflows but there are no "reported" cases in the area.

I heard that DB is one, and Tung Chung another, to keep it in an aviation context.

I believe it is so true that because catching it was made a crime in Hong Kong attracting a custodial sentence in a secure overcrowded hospital, it has made people hide their infections. In most other countries you do a home test and if positive go home to bed and stay clear of other people for a week. You don't have to be an epidemiologist to work out which is more effective at slowing an epidemic.
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351 cases today, 161 without traceable source.







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Old 5th Feb 2022, 13:31
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I can smell a full city lockdown coming like in any other Chinese city and then 2 months later a return to 0 Covid policy.
At least Hongkongese are all going to be able to enjoy a pilot lifestyle.
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Old 5th Feb 2022, 13:32
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351 cases today, 161 without traceable source.




Now that looks exponential indeed. Who provides the data????

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Old 5th Feb 2022, 14:47
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Unknown source cases will start to reduce soon. Only so many buildings/workplaces they can't link together. They always will attempt to minimise the unknowns because it would be a loss of face.
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Unknown source cases will start to reduce soon. Only so many buildings/workplaces they can't link together. They always will attempt to minimise the unknowns because it would be a loss of face.

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