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Old 17th Jan 2022, 12:20
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GBA will make its grand entrance later this year, magically at the same time the border with the motherland opens up.

The whole POS 18, ‘blame the virus spread on CX’ etc. has been in the making for the last few years. It’s all in the grand scheme to get rid of the Swires and their british legacy airline, once and for all.

Hong Kong's Greater Bay Airlines Mulling $1.8 Billion Aircraft Order
https://simpleflying.com/greater-bay...s-1-8-billion/
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/20...8b-plane-order

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Old 17th Jan 2022, 14:47
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If there was a grand sceme to get rid of CX, why bail them out in the first place?

I don't think so.
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 15:46
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Originally Posted by Oasis
If there was a grand sceme to get rid of CX, why bail them out in the first place?

I don't think so.
Time were very different when the bailout happened, Oasis.
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 16:10
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I'm sure there are easier ways to get rid of CX, if they wanted to. We'll see.
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 18:02
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Originally Posted by KABOY
The reality is that pilots are becoming a low paid skill set.

Inflicting oneself to this mental anguish for financial compensation says a lot about the profession. In other countries their self worth is slightly higher, but CX has found a new bottom.

This truly is the ‘boiler room’ on a 1800’s Swire steam ship.

In the US you have Captains at the major airlines making over $500K (some Fedex captains have made a $m + with overtime). A two year FO makes almost $200K at most majors. So no, not all pilots are considered a low paid skill set. Only in places where people are willing to work for low wages will that model survive. The lesson of that need not be emphasized...
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 23:07
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Originally Posted by Oasis
If there was a grand sceme to get rid of CX, why bail them out in the first place?

I don't think so.
Likely use of “debt trap diplomacy” which is also why cx hasn’t drawn down on the loan.
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 00:41
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If these clowns want to keep paying me for doing absolutely nothing, I'll let em

I bet they wished they laid off non PR cx pilots from the bottom of the list, now forced to re hire ex KA guys while hundreds of FO's and SO's sit idle.
How insanely stupid but then again nothing makes sense around here anymore.
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 03:30
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"Insanely stupid" is what the Swire's do best.
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 08:17
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Wait until those SO’s and FO’s sitting at home doing nothing go for there visa renewal…
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 08:45
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Originally Posted by Oasis
If there was a grand sceme to get rid of CX, why bail them out in the first place?

I don't think so.
getting rid of cx doesn't mean wiping it out of existence.... the Gov has 2 Party-nominated secretaries on the board, Air China has ppl on the board, who knows what will happen next... maybe they'll arrest a few non-Chinese directors and force Swire to handover the rest of it.... wouldn't put it past the dictatorship these days, I have a feeling the arrest of the 2 ex-cabin crew are just the beginning
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 09:51
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british legacy airline in HK
A huge pimple on the nose.

Imagine a Chinese legacy airline operating out of Birmingham.
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 10:10
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A huge pimple on the nose.

Imagine a Chinese legacy airline operating out of Birmingham.

Imagine the Chinese government owning the port of Felixstowe ? Or Piraeus ? Imagine the HNA group owning an European bank. ? Oh hang on. They do.
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 10:34
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Originally Posted by Globocnik
Imagine the Chinese government owning the port of Felixstowe ? Or Piraeus ? Imagine the HNA group owning an European bank. ? Oh hang on. They do.
Imagine the Australian Government being stupid enough to lease out the Darwin Harbour which is also a joint USA/ Australian naval base for 99 years… oh wait…. I think they have!
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 11:43
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Originally Posted by Globocnik
Imagine the Chinese government owning the port of Felixstowe ? Or Piraeus ? Imagine the HNA group owning an European bank. ? Oh hang on. They do.
There are two models under the CCP model, internal and external.
Internally, no non Chinese entity shall control business in China.

Externally, that is the fault of the gweilos for allowing a Chinese business to have control under their corporate laws.

Want to invest in China, then play by their rules, this hasn’t changed in decades..

Don't confuse jurisdictions.
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 15:51
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They're going after the Hamsters now! Better hide your pets, cats & dogs are next!
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 16:26
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For a moment there I thought you meant graduates of a certain British flying training establishment! Can't be too many of those left there though.
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 16:41
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Originally Posted by Jn14:6
For a moment there I thought you meant graduates of a certain British flying training establishment! Can't be too many of those left there though.
I think our Zimbabwean Instagram 1 is about it. !!
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 17:56
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Better kill all the animals, you can never be too sure...
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 20:35
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Jn14:6= showing your age there! Hamble closed an age ago. All the graduates I know of are long since retired. Happy days! Go well, stay well!

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Here comes the big disgusting shock, animals are now contracting covid-19, multiple animals at a zoo's around the world have got it, all the cats! If they just killed 20,000 hamsters what do you think they'll do to all the domestic cats & dogs?
On a lighter note, Omicron isn't all that bad and the next variant will probably be called Pi. It will be ironic if fat people started getting Pi.

The world really has gone to the dogs.
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