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Old 25th Feb 2022, 11:11
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Originally Posted by Cury Lamb
First it was the hamsters, now they’re coming for our kids!!

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/asia/...hnk/index.html
I really can't believe this story is true, but I hate to say it, if I had a kid test positive (at that young age), it would be over my dead body he/she would be removed from me.
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Old 25th Feb 2022, 11:16
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Originally Posted by Will IB Fayed
I really can't believe this story is true, but I hate to say it, if I had a kid test positive (at that young age), it would be over my dead body he/she would be removed from me.
You Feel that, you say that but in reality if it truly happened to you they eventually would get your child and you would go to jail for assault of a police officer.

If you don't want your kids locked up, dont have them in HK right now.
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Old 25th Feb 2022, 13:09
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Reality

Originally Posted by Will IB Fayed
I really can't believe this story is true, but I hate to say it, if I had a kid test positive (at that young age), it would be over my dead body he/she would be removed from me.
YOU are living in China which is fully controlled by the CCP and THEY make the rules.... Got IT !!!
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 01:50
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Originally Posted by JMock
won’t help

you still get separated

and your small child will be tied to the bed
chest, ankles and one wrist
Who treats children this way? It tells you all you need to know about the people calling the shots and the people following the orders. Burn baby burn, burn right on through. What's the count today? It's the only way out.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 08:09
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The only way 'out' is to abandon ship. Get your family and kids out of HK asap either way, even if you can't stomach changing jobs personally.

The problem with Cathay pilots is most of them have been there so long, been through some excellent high paid years, and still seem to think Cathay is the world's best gig. Which it was, until 2 years ago.

Now CX is a shadow of it's former self, and will NEVER improve. Every day you stay there is a waste of your life.

GET OUT!

or don't, not my problem.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 08:15
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17000 new local cases today.
Still adhering to dynamic zero.

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Old 26th Feb 2022, 14:18
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If you still think this is about COVID you are living in the past. Look around the world at current events to see the way that new lines are being drawn. Do you really want to be stuck behind those lines when the main event kicks off? COVID was a warning shot, don’t let these lost years be for nothing.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 15:44
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I don't know where you're going with that but I'm readying my tin foil hat.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 03:18
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With the way Putin is carrying on I’d say the end of the world IS nigh.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 04:38
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Originally Posted by Fac6
Policies towards testing positive/close contact etc have changed and you can now isolate at home and do RAT tests there etc. Surely this is showing a move towards more relaxed and better things rather than the end of the world is nigh.
Unfortunately all these improvements towards a more rational covid approach are driven by necessity (ie running out of isolation beds at PB), not due to any sensible reasoning. In other words in some cases the right decisions are being taken, but for all the wrong reasons.

Which begs the question, when in a month or so the infections inevitably peak and start to drop and meanwhile they have built 100k isolation cells, will they go right back to unscientific and overzealous measures like 21-day look backs, three-week quarantine for inbound travellers, two weeks in PB after being discharged from hospital etc?

Unfortunately this all seems more bound up in ideology and face-saving rather than rational epidemiological control.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 07:06
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main_dog nails it.

How do you think things will play out when cases reduce, and now they have huge concentration camps built in HK? It's not rocket surgery.

Things will only get worse under China's zero covid idiocy. MUCH worse.

Get out while you can.

Additionally, it's time to choose sides, a la 1939, regarding the Ukraine.

China appears to be with Russia on this one. It won't end well.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 07:45
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34000 cases today, wow.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 08:38
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Originally Posted by Fac6
The situation regarding children is indeed very sad but taking that aside, I tend to disagree with all this scaremongering that the sky is falling, HK is finished blah blah. Policies towards testing positive/close contact etc have changed and you can now isolate at home and do RAT tests there etc. Surely this is showing a move towards more relaxed and better things rather than the end of the world is nigh.
There was just news coming out today the VP of China just criticised the HK gov for not being harsh enough with its covid 0 policy... Someone would probably 'lose his/her head' if Chairman Xi can't come for the big ceremony on 1 July
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 09:11
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Originally Posted by Fac6
The situation regarding children is indeed very sad but taking that aside, I tend to disagree with all this scaremongering that the sky is falling, HK is finished blah blah. Policies towards testing positive/close contact etc have changed and you can now isolate at home and do RAT tests there etc. Surely this is showing a move towards more relaxed and better things rather than the end of the world is nigh.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...gtype=homepage

Well, it aint too rosy, but sure we can say better things are ahead. Just like the same can be said for Ukraine and Myanmar. The difference will be what your perception of 'better things' is.

After the riots, things definitely have not been better for HK citizens......it becomes a new normal.

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Old 28th Feb 2022, 14:57
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Funny, with Russia blocking its airspace to many countries, can you imagine the amount of business we'd get if we were actually flying anywhere.
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At today's press conference:

Q: Are you still going to continue with "Dynamic-zero Covid" strategy?
Dr Au: Yes. And once we get the cases under control, we're going to bring back all the things we used to do, like aggressive contact tracing and compulsory testing.


FFS
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Old 1st Mar 2022, 13:09
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Exactly. Like main_dog said.

It's not going to change any time soon in Hong Kong.

Stockholm Syndrome for those who remain.
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Old 1st Mar 2022, 23:26
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Originally Posted by Flying Clog

Stockholm Syndrome for those who remain.
Some don't like to work twice as much for half the money.
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Old 2nd Mar 2022, 05:47
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The news for Hong Kong just keeps getting better. The US has just placed a “Do Not Travel” advice on Hong Kong.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 10:35
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Originally Posted by Flying Clog
Exactly. Like main_dog said.

It's not going to change any time soon in Hong Kong.

Stockholm Syndrome for those who remain.
One crew member mentioned that the first time they received a tracking bracelet (literally two weeks ago), they were so angry. Now it is “not so bad”. The new normal keeps sinking lower and lower.
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