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COS 99 extensions- seniority is over

Old 4th Aug 2019, 22:58
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Originally Posted by Dan Buster View Post
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Well, so be it. I've managed this long without having 'Training Captain' on my business card. And my morals and integrity remain intact. And I can look myself in the mirror as I did not throw my colleagues and friends under the bus for my own personal gain.
but on the other hand those of us on the 744 endure the worst of the CC/TB while those on the 777 get down route disruption and roster uncertainty once in a blue moon. Not to mention years of trying to get off the 747 fleet as seniority should allow. Judging by the pitiful payrise and flood of new trainers looking at yourself in the mirror with a smile is all any of us will achieve under CC/TB.

As usual, one pilot group gets f*cked while another beat their chest about how hard they’ve got it. Any surprise those on the 777 were championing the cause.

Bravo.


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Old 6th Aug 2019, 01:01
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Well things can always get worse. Those that have been working for CX for more than a decade probably know what is coming:

1. Hong Kong, China and possibly entire world economy slowing and in recession by Q4 2019 or Q1 2020.
2. CX forward bookings crater and management begins to panic about looming losses.
3. Aircraft deliveries deferred and accelerated return of aircraft as leases expire.
4. This equals too many pilots and staff in general.
5. LWOP 2019/2020.

And how many of those 400/500 COS99 Pilots, many of whom are Captains, are going to "volunteer" for LWOP unless their retirement age is extended to 65 on full benefits? Particularly as they watch the value of their PFunds and property sink with retirement looming in less than 10 years.
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 13:30
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Originally Posted by rtrd View Post
Well things can always get worse. Those that have been working for CX for more than a decade probably know what is coming:

1. Hong Kong, China and possibly entire world economy slowing and in recession by Q4 2019 or Q1 2020.
2. CX forward bookings crater and management begins to panic about looming losses.
3. Aircraft deliveries deferred and accelerated return of aircraft as leases expire.
4. This equals too many pilots and staff in general.
5. LWOP 2019/2020.

And how many of those 400/500 COS99 Pilots, many of whom are Captains, are going to "volunteer" for LWOP unless their retirement age is extended to 65 on full benefits? Particularly as they watch the value of their PFunds and property sink with retirement looming in less than 10 years.
If the industry is is the dumps there will be nowhere else to go when you hit 55. They’re already fighting over a few slots on COS18. Hundreds will be looking just to hold their seniority and got to 65 on COS18.
Pretend that’s not the case if you like.
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 14:34
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Only in CX would you have a bunch of guys fighting over a vastly inferior contract just to hang around the place. You are all pathetic losers. How do you look yourselves in the mirror you spineless cowards?

Get a life.
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 04:22
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Dilbert, I hope you feel better now that you've had the opportunity to vent. Take the rest of the day off....
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Old 9th Aug 2019, 08:51
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Dan,

"Pretty sure giving RA65 to a very select group of employees would be seen as discriminatory in a Court of Law in this day in age."

RA 65 wasn't 'given' to anybody! We were all offered it and some, shortsightedly, chose not to take it. Case closed.
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Old 9th Aug 2019, 09:11
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'Shortsighted' my arse! Who the hell in their right mind would want to stay in this cesspit any longer than necessary? If you can plan to leave by 55, well done, but that's already WAY too long to work for these slave drivers. No thanks. I'll be gone well before 55.

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