Training ban broken
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A letter has been doing the rounds on social media coercing Pilot’s into signing an understanding that their COS allows CX to force them into training by 5th April.
Have many received this letter?
Have many received this letter?
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Wonder how many heroes will be queuing up to sign the letter, citing reasons such as ‘oh I had no choice as my family needs the extra money’, or ‘I signed it because it suited me, and anyway, I don’t mind going into the sim’, or ‘Yeah I signed it because I don’t think it’ll make any difference and I’m scared I’ll lose my command’ etc etc.
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The very fact that CX needs people to sign this letter against their own COS shows that it is absolute BS.
If your COS legitimately allowed the Company to force you into Training, there would be no need to sign any 'understanding'.
To all that sign this 'understanding', you will be undermining your own COS and the COS of your colleagues.
The old adage 'sign nothing', rings true now more than ever.
If your COS legitimately allowed the Company to force you into Training, there would be no need to sign any 'understanding'.
To all that sign this 'understanding', you will be undermining your own COS and the COS of your colleagues.
The old adage 'sign nothing', rings true now more than ever.

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Yes that'll sort them out - the classic strongly worded letter from the AOA. It's exactly the same tactic that has been used the last 18 times, so it'll be the last thing the company will expect this time. That's the genius of the HKAOA.
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if this is a safety related issue contact the hull insurers and point this out to them. They have the ability to raise premiums/refuse cover based on the increased risk. Could get tricky for CX....
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I hear that one of the ban breakers who resigned from the AOA to join training, even before people were being "forced", has failed his training upgrade.
Karma is sweet!
Good luck asking for swaps and/or jumpseats. Unless of course you ask "man to man"
Karma is sweet!
Good luck asking for swaps and/or jumpseats. Unless of course you ask "man to man"
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As usual it’s left to individuals to take a stand at what amounts to personal risk(as proven countless times in the past)while the rest of you snipe from the sidelines.
And no... I’m not in training.
We are ALL responsible for the outcome here. Nothing will stand up to these guys unless it’s a concerted team effort.
And no... I’m not in training.
We are ALL responsible for the outcome here. Nothing will stand up to these guys unless it’s a concerted team effort.
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There are now just under 100 people on the training list. They have more names than positions required. Let’s face it the training ban is no more. The AOA is like the deer in the headlights. As the guys get their letters, they are resigning from the AOA. The company is now offering an alternative loss of income insurance, which will drive even more people to leave. The TB has now become a liability to the AOA, and they have no idea how to get rid of it as some radical GC members, seam to think it still has some leverage. Just about every guy I’m flying with is thinking about quitting the AOA, as it has become totally irrelevant. The SO”s are now looking at 5 years before an upgrade and they are pleased with the increase in training captains, so are a lot of FO”s who are waiting for a command. There is a reason why the AOA is not returning the levy, as they know a lot of members will quit if they do.
They've broken the potential training ban at KA.
20% + of KA captains applied for advertised positions that, I'm guessing, will only come about if contract compliance is entered into. Actually, appoint all these applicants and contact compliance is broken too.
No wonder they offered such a brazed MFF / pay rise deal. Sign away seniority, your OT and do double the work for 1%. Thankfully, faith restored and this insult voted down convincingly!
20% + of KA captains applied for advertised positions that, I'm guessing, will only come about if contract compliance is entered into. Actually, appoint all these applicants and contact compliance is broken too.
No wonder they offered such a brazed MFF / pay rise deal. Sign away seniority, your OT and do double the work for 1%. Thankfully, faith restored and this insult voted down convincingly!

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They've broken the potential training ban at KA.
20% + of KA captains applied for advertised positions that, I'm guessing, will only come about if contract compliance is entered into. Actually, appoint all these applicants and contact compliance is broken too.
No wonder they offered such a brazed MFF / pay rise deal. Sign away seniority, your OT and do double the work for 1%. Thankfully, faith restored and this insult voted down convincingly!
20% + of KA captains applied for advertised positions that, I'm guessing, will only come about if contract compliance is entered into. Actually, appoint all these applicants and contact compliance is broken too.
No wonder they offered such a brazed MFF / pay rise deal. Sign away seniority, your OT and do double the work for 1%. Thankfully, faith restored and this insult voted down convincingly!