Training ban broken
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Finally the CAD will have to get involved. FOP have waited this long to do something this drastic because they know how risky it is.
Training is very much what CAD own and are directly responsible for. Legally. I cant wait for the invisible public servant responsible to say in writing that they are happy for this company to put people in these Training Captain positions under duress and threat.
Last roll of the dice it would seem.
Training is very much what CAD own and are directly responsible for. Legally. I cant wait for the invisible public servant responsible to say in writing that they are happy for this company to put people in these Training Captain positions under duress and threat.
Last roll of the dice it would seem.
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Never heard if this ever before anywhere and cannot imagine how it could work, unless of course, as I already suspect, it will simply be a mechanism to allow "forced" appointments of those already interested, who then claim they had no choice.
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So if I get a letter in my mailbox saying “Congratulations, you have been selected to join the training department” what is the recourse if i say no? Do i lose my job? demoted to F/O? put on gardening leave?
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They still ask. Just like they do when they tell you that you have a command course. You can delay it for all matter of reasons. So those that go in will be those that want to. Simple as that.
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Then again, there's your good old CX/Swire arrogance and condescension shining through...
It's never failed them before now, has it?

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This will give all want to be trainers the ability to become trainers during the TB and just blame the company for forcing them. How do we know these appointed new trainers have not expressed their interest already?
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The company has a long list of Captains wanting to join training, most of them would never have been selected years ago when there actually WAS a selection process. This amendment is meant to facilitate a path into training for these individuals. I doubt anybody will be forced to train, I'm sure some of these new trainers may claim this but the truth is that they are volunteers. Are they any good? Do they have the spare capacity to train and still safely fly the airplane? Probably not but nobody around here cares about that. Safety, standards, just culture, blah, blah, blah. It's all for show, we are becoming more unsafe every year, anyone who has been here awhile can see that.
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No one will be made to do training. Anyone that does are those that have expressed interest in the past. It will be easy to tell as those selected will be sporadically located all over the seniority list .