Legend !
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I appreciate (and agree with) your point. However, CB is nothing but a psychotic fraud who won't go away.
Who do you work for again, CB? Oh yes, you won't say.
Ps. Standing by for a long winded rant...
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From: Honkytown
Ironic 
... you joined on C scale thinking you would get better terms and conditions later on in your career. Clearly you didn't do any research on the history between CX management and the AOA. Be grateful that you have a job and a steady income. But of course that is never enough for you young joiners, always fed with a silver spoon growing up and being impatient (I want, I want, I want now!)
Also, now you have the audacity to say that the TB is "screwing all the SOs and FOs"
when you accepted the C scale offer in the first place. Get real!!
... you joined on C scale thinking you would get better terms and conditions later on in your career. Clearly you didn't do any research on the history between CX management and the AOA. Be grateful that you have a job and a steady income. But of course that is never enough for you young joiners, always fed with a silver spoon growing up and being impatient (I want, I want, I want now!)Also, now you have the audacity to say that the TB is "screwing all the SOs and FOs"
when you accepted the C scale offer in the first place. Get real!!However, as an FO3, please do tell me where I'd make 115,000 a month, plus p-fund and allowances elsewhere. I reckon I've got m ear to the ground, but obviously you know best.
Also - do advise me of which jobs out there I'm not qualified for. 4500hrs 777, 3000 right seat. 1700+ in GA. Batchelors and Masters degrees. I would love to hear all about it (again).
While you're at it, a few yarns from your days in the military wouldn't go amiss.
Oh, that's right, they would.
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From: Honkytown
Ironic ... you joined on C scale thinking you would get better terms and conditions later on in your career. Clearly you didn't do any research on the history between CX management and the AOA. Be grateful that you have a job and a steady income. But of course that is never enough for you young joiners, always fed with a silver spoon growing up and being impatient (I want, I want, I want now!)
Also, now you have the audacity to say that the TB is "screwing all the SOs and FOs" when you accepted the C scale offer in the first place. Get real!!
... you joined on C scale thinking you would get better terms and conditions later on in your career. Clearly you didn't do any research on the history between CX management and the AOA. Be grateful that you have a job and a steady income. But of course that is never enough for you young joiners, always fed with a silver spoon growing up and being impatient (I want, I want, I want now!)Also, now you have the audacity to say that the TB is "screwing all the SOs and FOs"
when you accepted the C scale offer in the first place. Get real!!I wonder what the future holds.
Any guesses?
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Anotherday. You say that freighter crew have the 'right' to quit CC. Huh? Although I appreciate they are particularly affected, it doesn't give them, or any other member, the 'right' to unilaterally quit CC. If they want to resign from the AOA first then certainly. There is no guarantee that each group would share the burden 'evenly'. The only answer to this dysfunctional industrial mess of an airline is to stick together and insist on proper terms and conditions.
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From: Hong Kong
Or did you mean negotiate?
STP
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However, as an FO3, please do tell me where I'd make 115,000 a month, plus p-fund and allowances elsewhere. I reckon I've got m ear to the ground, but obviously you know best.
Also - do advise me of which jobs out there I'm not qualified for. 4500hrs 777, 3000 right seat. 1700+ in GA. Batchelors and Masters degrees. I would love to hear all about it (again).
Also - do advise me of which jobs out there I'm not qualified for. 4500hrs 777, 3000 right seat. 1700+ in GA. Batchelors and Masters degrees. I would love to hear all about it (again).
You must have joined after 2011 as someone who is now on FO3, had a short stint as an S/O (2yrs) compared to some others that were +4yrs. If you are not contempt with gaining experience from the right seat, earning a stable income, travelling the globe and simply being in a rush to get your Command rather than riding out the cycles that the aviation industry brings, then may I suggest that you go to other airlines that offer a quicker command. Maybe the ME as it's closer to home.
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From: Honkytown
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3x900=2700 You can then exclude bunk time which is roughly 50%. 2700/2=1350. Let's round it up to 1500.
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And no, my bunk time isn't anywhere near 50%.
Glad you know my logbook better than me.
Back to my point - what does my (lack of) experience preclude me from?
What direct entry FO airline gigs require more than 5000+ total and 3 years right seat?
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I don't have to know your log book, unless you're fudging hours. In case you haven't figured it out Einstein it ain't difficult to figure out roughly your flying hour. Wasn't difficult to call BS on your inflated numbers.
And you have a Master's degree??? In what knitting??
And you have a Master's degree??? In what knitting??
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From: Honkytown
Correct. And many airlines, CX included, have a very long history of cadet pilots, while maintaining industry-leading safety records.
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