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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 134
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From: Crew bunk
MOST airlines recognize SO time? What in the hell are you smoking? SO time is the free !!!! you do to get in the right seat and start logging real time. And, as mentioned, you don't log your bunk time. You can know your logbook as much as you want, but it sounds like your logbook is a little fudged and a real airline is going to throw it back at you and you will not get hired. Not to worry, though -- there's always China, India and the Middle East for you to peddle your Parker Pen time.
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 299
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From: HKG
aaaaaahhhhhhhh..... THis is so frustrating..... I just want this over with.... I just want to finally be able to enjoy my job again........The union is useless I am sorry to say. I just hope they can get my ass out of jail faster than they can negotiate a stop to CC and TB.



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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 259
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From: In a Bar
Anotherday.
To be fair, 'upgrade' from TC to TCC is NOT an upgrade and carries no increment, NOR is it voluntary, as ALL TC's HAVE to become TCC'S.
NOW, volunteering for training, or to go TCC to STC etc., that is a different kettle of fish.
Glad I'm going!
To be fair, 'upgrade' from TC to TCC is NOT an upgrade and carries no increment, NOR is it voluntary, as ALL TC's HAVE to become TCC'S.
NOW, volunteering for training, or to go TCC to STC etc., that is a different kettle of fish.
Glad I'm going!
Joined: Dec 2015
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From: Nimbus
Anotherday, you're obviously not in the AoA and obviously a management troll.
I can think of 3 scabs who have been expelled (or resigned from the union just before being given the boot) after they took a training job or upgraded from within.
And don't worry, I'm quite sure the rest of us members will remember their names for a looooong time.
I can think of 3 scabs who have been expelled (or resigned from the union just before being given the boot) after they took a training job or upgraded from within.
And don't worry, I'm quite sure the rest of us members will remember their names for a looooong time.

Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 451
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From: the land of chocolate
Curtain,
I can't think of a single member who has taken an upgrade in training that has been expelled. Can think of plenty who have gone TC to TCC and TCC to STC. But I'm just a troll, what would I know.
So every AOA member who has upgraded in training in the last 2 and a bit years is out of the AOA? What about all the guys in Hong Kong who took Command upgrades while guys on bases turned them down to stay true to CC. How's that fair.
Pick and choose, it appears.
I can't think of a single member who has taken an upgrade in training that has been expelled. Can think of plenty who have gone TC to TCC and TCC to STC. But I'm just a troll, what would I know.
So every AOA member who has upgraded in training in the last 2 and a bit years is out of the AOA? What about all the guys in Hong Kong who took Command upgrades while guys on bases turned them down to stay true to CC. How's that fair.
Pick and choose, it appears.
I'm not sure how delaying command on the base is the same as delaying command in Hong Kong.... lots of people were doing that anyway, seems silly to then say it was for "staying true to" contract compliance.
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 17
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From: Hong Kong
Quite simple really, fly with the based guys, talk to them. Those with families happily settled are generally staying on the base, those whose kids have grown up, several are coming back to Hong Kong for their command. Not a word about contract compliance from anyone of them in their thinking process.
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