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Not all roses at Dragon for a new pilot.
Just spoke to a Dragon mate who told me that only two pilots have passed the command training so far this year (two per month going through...).
Measures being taken to try and focus training to address the weak areas.
Not all roses at Dragon for a new pilot.
Just spoke to a Dragon mate who told me that only two pilots have passed the command training so far this year (two per month going through...).
Measures being taken to try and focus training to address the weak areas.
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What is the current pay ?
Are those sites accurate?
Cathay Pacific | AirlinePilotCentral.com
Cathay Pacific (Passenger Ops pilot jobs news for airline pilots and aviation schools)
What bases in US does CX offer? As a new hire, what can I expect as a base?
What is the time to Command? How are the fleets assigned?
I tried to dig through the thread to find the answers, nothing stuck out.
Are those sites accurate?
Cathay Pacific | AirlinePilotCentral.com
Cathay Pacific (Passenger Ops pilot jobs news for airline pilots and aviation schools)
What bases in US does CX offer? As a new hire, what can I expect as a base?
What is the time to Command? How are the fleets assigned?
I tried to dig through the thread to find the answers, nothing stuck out.
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What bases in US does CX offer? As a new hire, what can I expect as a base?
What is the time to Command? How are the fleets assigned?
For more than 3000 pilots.
Don't expect one until you're 10+ years in the company.
And then, when you'll do your command (right now, after 13 years in the company, but in the future it's more likely to take 15 to 20 years - All new hires are in their 20s and will have to work until 65, and there's little to no expansion plan), you'll have to go back to HK and will never have a base anymore. (1 or 2 slots released for CN every 5 years)
No choice of fleet. Once you join on one type, you probably won't change until command. And even now, command is only on type.
Salary seems ok, but don't forget that HK is the most expensive city in the world for expats (according to the BBC). Grossery costs 3x what it would cost in the US.
And a 350sqf flat would cost you 25k HKD a month.
If you have experience, go somewhere else. Seriously.
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HurryUp, since you have the ability to work for a real airline in a first-world country, one which will soon be "Great Again," stay away from CX. Any American who CAN quit for a job in the US, HAS or WILL SOON quit. One guy with 9 years of seniority even quit to go fly DHC-8s for a regional. That says something about this job.
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America is already "great again"! Just ask Hillary... 1% GDP growth, record low labor force participation and home ownership, record highs on welfare and terror attacks, and $10T of new debt. What's not to love about that? That said, it is still a first world country, as long as you are nowhere near the southern border.
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'travel concessions'
If someone reads this they would think probably think ahhhhh they get "Airline Travel Perks". Think again.
Without exception Cathay has the worst staff travel "concessions" of any airline anywhere in the world. If you think you can take you and your family to that Family reunion in Aus - think again. The "annual" FOC ticket (free of charge) propaganda is a flat out lie.
If you think you get Jump Seat privileges - Not Allowed to North America. (yet all the American airlines still can).
Without exception Cathay has the worst staff travel "concessions" of any airline anywhere in the world. If you think you can take you and your family to that Family reunion in Aus - think again. The "annual" FOC ticket (free of charge) propaganda is a flat out lie.
If you think you get Jump Seat privileges - Not Allowed to North America. (yet all the American airlines still can).
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Most of us are stuck here (seniority).
And we are still getting expat conditions.
I joined when bases were the norm. Temp bases, bases swaps...
Now I am only here because of the expat conditions.
And they don't offer them to new hires anymore.
A lot of Brushswingers are looking at other jobs. Yet they stay in the hope their conditions will somehow improve.
A lot of Americans (who were CN based in the US) took their recall from AA.
I, too, always had a thing for CX. But that was before...
And we are still getting expat conditions.
I joined when bases were the norm. Temp bases, bases swaps...
Now I am only here because of the expat conditions.
And they don't offer them to new hires anymore.
A lot of Brushswingers are looking at other jobs. Yet they stay in the hope their conditions will somehow improve.
A lot of Americans (who were CN based in the US) took their recall from AA.
I, too, always had a thing for CX. But that was before...
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If you have children, don't even think of applying. It WILL end in financial disaster (and probably rounded off with a divorce). Do your homework before applying. As a guide, $10000/mo usd here in HK is like earning $3500/mo usd in most of the USA. Children will cost you almost $50K usd per child to get into a decent english speaking school. Yes, $50K usd per child!
I did a quick interweb thingy search.
ESF Base Rate:
Primary schools (Years 2 to 6) - HK$83,800
Secondary schools (Years 7 to 11) HK$117,600
Secondary schools (Years 12 to 13) HK$123500
Aussie school (as there a lot of those types in CX, apparently they educate the K1Z1s as well):
Primary school HK$129,600
Secondary schools (Years 7 to 11) HK$149,600
Secondary schools (Years 12 to 13) HK$194,200
So 90% of the base rate, and then don't you pay tax on allowances? Say late secondary, as most kids end up there, you are out of pocket at least HK80000 per year. A bit different (ignoring the tax effect) from your 30-40k hkd.
Oh and how is the HKD500,000 debenture being funded? Same way as the 2 months rent deposit and the 1st months rent in advance and the savings for the provisional tax bill? It really is a hard slog financially if you have school kids.
ESF Base Rate:
Primary schools (Years 2 to 6) - HK$83,800
Secondary schools (Years 7 to 11) HK$117,600
Secondary schools (Years 12 to 13) HK$123500
Aussie school (as there a lot of those types in CX, apparently they educate the K1Z1s as well):
Primary school HK$129,600
Secondary schools (Years 7 to 11) HK$149,600
Secondary schools (Years 12 to 13) HK$194,200
So 90% of the base rate, and then don't you pay tax on allowances? Say late secondary, as most kids end up there, you are out of pocket at least HK80000 per year. A bit different (ignoring the tax effect) from your 30-40k hkd.
Oh and how is the HKD500,000 debenture being funded? Same way as the 2 months rent deposit and the 1st months rent in advance and the savings for the provisional tax bill? It really is a hard slog financially if you have school kids.