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Old 17th Aug 2014, 15:59
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I apologise for the very bad taste... But this housing to some unfortunate people of hong kong....

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Old 18th Aug 2014, 05:01
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I think the guy on the left is one of our new SO's....

He receives no housing allowance
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Old 18th Aug 2014, 06:34
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Ow, and those who applied, check you spam box. My invitation wasmin there and i found it by luck!!
You're computer is smart, follow it's lead, and leave the email in the spam box.
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Old 18th Aug 2014, 07:43
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Does anyone recently hired or interviewed know an accurate pay figure for non-typed drivers? The above figures mentioned previous jet time.
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Old 18th Aug 2014, 07:45
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Anyone got an invitation from HKE without jet time? just turboprop hours...

Thanks
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Old 18th Aug 2014, 07:47
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Forget HKG unless you make 100,000hk/month minimum. The cost of living is at least 150% higher than just about any other city in the world.

Better off going to mainland china where you make double what HKE makes and the cost of living is a third.

70,000/month is NOT enough. I know, been in HKG 5 years, have seen prices of everything rise between 4-7% a year.

My rent when I first arrived was 14,000. Withing 1 year the owner raised it to 18,000. Two years later she sold it and the new owners rented it for 28,000.

Don't even get me started on food, restaurants and alcohol.
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Old 18th Aug 2014, 08:52
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Given housing seems to destroy the whole thing on the pay offered, I've done a bit of research & unless you have other money coming in you will crash eventually on this pay at HKE

I'm out for now, the search continues
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Old 18th Aug 2014, 13:33
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Current pay for an f/o with no jet time is HK$53750pm for 50 hours. Avge hours at the moment would be about 70 per month, so that would get you $62750, which is about $53000 after tax.

If you choose to live in Tung Chung or DB, don't expect much (if any) change from $20000, Central or anywhere on HK island will cost you a lot more and you'll get a lot less.

If you're single it's fine, married with no kids maybe okay as long as you can keep the wife happy, but don't even think about coming here on that wage if you have school aged kids.
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Old 19th Aug 2014, 10:41
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Well i"am afraid i m also not going. Salary for highest rank F/o is still pretty poor taken into account the housing prices. An then i m not talking about having a car, buying food etc. Would have been nice gig if the salary was just higher.
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 11:31
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Kestral00P...

you are EXACTLY the kind of guy that lessens the conditions for guys who are AREADY in a "Strong Position"

As long as we pilots keep accepting lesser pay and worse conditions the companies will offer less. Back when I instructed their were guys who taught for free. They did not value themselves or their skills.

You, Kestral, are worth MORE than they are offering.

what idiots pilots are.
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 11:49
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Hello pot, this is kettle calling...

And you RusCo, are the epitome of the problem. Exactly how do your terms and conditions compare relatively to the A scales enjoyed before B scalers et al came along?
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 12:07
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A scale was long gone before I came to CX.

I at least got the housing, would not have come without.

Pedantic Pomey
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 12:10
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The salary makes a though living in HK indeed. Specially if you got kids!Why not try Dragonair? As they have a slightly better package, or even HKE you might jump as non TR into a 330. Quick upgrade? Hello!!! There are many qualified people waiting in line, some for several years, and DEC are still being hired.
On the other hand life in HK is pretty good. You will hardly experience another place where, as an expat, you be respected, and feel as free and safe as HK.
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 13:28
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You pay no money for the TR upfront it's a bond which is a great attribute to the t's and c's .
Bonds are not legal and if signed, not enforceable in HK.


On the other hand life in HK is pretty good. You will hardly experience another place where, as an expat, you be respected, and feel as free and safe as HK.
It's good and you will be respected - providing you have money. And with that, I think we're back to the start of this thread.
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 14:39
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Ok..i been smoking to much pollution these days...

whats the difference in pay , T & C between express and HKA.. etc.

I thought they where under the same group etc. same nasty pay.. and crazy management team..

Please enlighten me.. what the big picture...
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 14:49
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I received an invitation to interview in HK this Morning, however kindly declined.. Hope this is useful to anyone expecting a response
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 16:27
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Too much , when did you apply?
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 16:42
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About 10 days ago Scott
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Old 20th Aug 2014, 23:35
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Kestrel

Have you actually lived here for any REAL comparison of "cost of living" because it is WAY higher than Aberdeen.

Your 1100 bought you what as a property? Bet it was way more than half a shoe box. But keep the rose coloured glasses on you are the only one that knows anything about it as you are not a low hours ATPL holder flying for a great carrier in a country that has legal protection for its workers!
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Old 21st Aug 2014, 03:47
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Kestral00p wrote:
The thing that most people in this forum are missing is that HKE is a LCC and according to those standards the pay is good.
Why does a low cost airline mean that you are now a low cost pilot? Aren't we all doing the same job no matter what company you work for?
Passengers are the ones that benefit from cheaper airfares by accepting less service for the fare paid.. Pilots accepting lesser pay to fly the same equipment as another 'full service' airline, yet doing the same job?

Strange mentality in my opinion.
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