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Old 14th Aug 2014, 05:21
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I see the pay is


A320 FO with 3000+ hours jet time: $10,159

A320 FO with 1500+ hours jet time: $8,869

Overtime available above 50 hours:
51-75 hours: $58/HR
76+ hours: $83/HR


I guess no housing, schooling.. or moving allowance etc..
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Old 14th Aug 2014, 17:05
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I have no clue how life is downthere.

But these figures, is that a lot , or how do have put these numbers into perspective?

Tx
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Old 14th Aug 2014, 20:51
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If it's gross with no allowances, it's peanuts.
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Old 15th Aug 2014, 07:03
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so around 78738hkd and minus 11810hkd for taxes so take home around 66927hkd... i hope i am wrong with the figures...


if you go over 50hrs you get a few more peanuts. No mention of other allowances....

housing in HK is very high.. a size 14 shoe (box) is around 20K+ per month..

hmmm
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Old 15th Aug 2014, 07:15
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Jetjockey how did you come across these figures?
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Old 15th Aug 2014, 08:01
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Jesus Christ, 67k is peanuts. You will not be able to live on that in Hong Kong.

Period.

I earn nearly 3 times that as an F/O in HKG, and that just about provides a manageable life for living in this godforsaken cesspit.

Even a single guy/girl would struggle, but with a missus or even worse kids, you're kidding yourself.

I guess it's monkey pay for a monkey operation. I've said it before, be VERY careful about going to work for these clowns. Reason - you very well might struggle to get a job anywhere else with that on your cv...

A good contrast is Ryanair, horrendous reputation from a passenger's point of view, but the training is excellent. Therefore Ryanair is a valid stepping stone, and the likes of Emirates and co. snap up the Ryanair pilots like there's no tomorrow.

Hong Kong Airlines = the opposite.
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Old 15th Aug 2014, 08:02
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66927 hkd is still 6400 eur net!

For me that is still a lot of money.

On top you get 58 or 83 per hour but you will fly for sure 80h a month.

Sorry being that naive, but what is so bad about that?

What am i missing here?
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Old 15th Aug 2014, 08:08
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You have obviously never been to Hong Kong dboy. I doubt you could rent a toilet for 6400 euros a month.
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Old 15th Aug 2014, 08:26
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No i ve never been down there and have no clue how life looks like. Thats why i was asking.
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Old 15th Aug 2014, 09:28
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Originally Posted by Flying Clog
A good contrast is Ryanair, horrendous reputation from a passenger's point of view, but the training is excellent. Therefore Ryanair is a valid stepping stone, and the likes of Emirates and co. snap up the Ryanair pilots like there's no tomorrow.

Hong Kong Airlines = the opposite.
Not true from what I have heard. HKA is struggling with crew, becaus lots of them have left for Emirates and Etihad for a FO or DEC position.

Wake up! Aviation has changed. Nobody gives a flying fock anymore, for what company you have worked before and what standards you think you might have achieved, as long you have a rating, license, etc.

The HR department (and then in turn a skinny lady, with glasses in her mid twenties with 2 1/4 years of working experience) of a recruiting airline will get the task to hire 140 FOs and 25 DEC. They threw you in a simulator after you probably passed a computer aided assessment (outsourced to 3rd party outfit) and you rehearse a interview. If you pass you are in. No matter if you flew for HKA, Cathay, Dragon or even orbited earth 13x in a space shuttle before.

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Old 15th Aug 2014, 10:05
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Nippi the space shuttle requirement will always stand in Aus😒
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Old 16th Aug 2014, 00:51
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Monkey. I know plenty of guys who at 200 hours went straight to the RHS of a jet who don't meet that requirement.
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Old 16th Aug 2014, 11:35
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Hi, got the inviation for the assessment next month!

Anyone else?

Ow, and those who applied, check you spam box. My invitation wasmin there and i found it by luck!!

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Old 17th Aug 2014, 04:32
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The HR department (and then in turn a skinny lady, with glasses in her mid twenties with 2 1/4 years of working experience) of a recruiting airline will get the task to hire 140 FOs and 25 DEC. They threw you in a simulator after you probably passed a computer aided assessment (outsourced to 3rd party outfit) and you rehearse a interview. If you pass you are in. No matter if you flew for HKA, Cathay, Dragon or even orbited earth 13x in a space shuttle before.
You made me spit up my coffee. So true and so funny.

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Old 17th Aug 2014, 10:39
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I was looking at apartment rentals in HKG. It would cost me minimum of around 6000 hkd for a 400 square foot apartment in a not nice building in Kowloon. I saw some expat housing allowances of 75,000-100,00hkd per month. It seems that pay is crazy without a housing allowance.
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Old 17th Aug 2014, 11:38
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It is brutally expensive to live in Hong Kong if you want to maintain your western standard of living, apartment, food, clothes.

If you want to live in Kowloon, shop at the local market for local food, ladies market for clothes that salary may work. Drink at the Circle K bar...eat DimSum at the corner "restaurant" or McDonalds.


If you want to live in DB/TC or Central that pay is not enough. I make HKE. salary in housing alone.



Naive, very Naive.
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Old 17th Aug 2014, 11:41
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"6000 hkd for a 400 square foot apartment in a not nice building in Kowloon"

Good luck with that...a dump is actually a better description.
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Old 17th Aug 2014, 13:00
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To dboy...if you have never been in Hong Kong...but you are going there for an interview, I would suggest you take a week there to look around, and try to find places to live, I mean a place to live that you would find acceptable. Then see how much of you "wonderful" 6400 euros you have left to spend on other things...like food.

There is no way on earth as an expat I would go to HKG without housing allowance. I do another expat gig, and there is no way I would stay where I am unless they gave me my house, or a big allowance. Being an expat, is not being at home, I repeat, is not being at home....so keep your eyes wide open and take it all in. And listen to what others are telling you.
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Old 17th Aug 2014, 13:56
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Tx sops

Thats what i am going to do. I am not going there with pink glasses. I use my time to go to real estate companies to have an idea. I also,want to see if it is really my surroundings. And i must admit, when i hear hong kong i immediately think about pollution.
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Old 17th Aug 2014, 15:56
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IMPORTANT NOTICE TO VIRGIN HOUSING HUNTERS.... HONG KONG there is something about Gross Area (Gross Floor Area (GFA) is a real estate term referring to the total floor area inside the building envelope, including the external walls, and excluding the roof.): 603 (sq.ft.) Saleable Area: 483 (sq.ft.)... which means you only live in a 483FT area NOT 603sqft..

SO a 400 sqft apartment is only 280 sqft of liveable space...for 6000hkd


here are some insight about housing in HK...

you not getting anything below 20000HKD..per month.

hong kong apts/housing for rent - craigslist

good hunting
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