Hong Kong Express
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From: Bahamas
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From: Not over the Rockies anymore.
Air Asia...HK?!
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/65588-hna-group-airasia-group-in-talks-over-asset-sales
AirAsia Group Chief Executive Officer, Tony Fernandes, says the Malaysia-based budget carrier holding has discussed possible acquisitions with HNA Group.
In an interview with the Nikkei Asian Review, Fernandes said he had met HNA co-founder and Chairman Wang Jian and spoke with him about possible cooperation between the sides, adding that he "for sure" would consider acquiring unspecified businesses from the ailing Chinese conglomerate.
On whether AirAsia Group was interested in acquiring HNA Group's interests in Hong Kong Express (UO, Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok) and Hong Kong Airlines (HX, Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok) Hong Kong Airlines and Hong Kong Express, which are owned by HNA, Fernandes said, "We are always interested in whatever opportunities go our way." He went on to highlight that discussions with Wang have so far not been about airlines in Hong Kong specifically.
HNA Group has been disposing of its various assets as well as equity in its operations as a means of raising liquidity to meet debt repayment deadlines.
According to Bloomberg News, Hainan Airlines Holdings is planning to sell some of its office buildings and hotels in Beijing and Shanghai to cover its maturing debt. The carrier holding has a total of nine properties up for sale, with an estimated book value of CNY14 billion yuan (USD2.2 billion).
Among the assets for sale include the Shanghai NHA Tower, the Shanghai Yangtze International Enterprise Plaza, and the Renaissance Shanghai Pudong Hotel.
AirAsia Group Chief Executive Officer, Tony Fernandes, says the Malaysia-based budget carrier holding has discussed possible acquisitions with HNA Group.
In an interview with the Nikkei Asian Review, Fernandes said he had met HNA co-founder and Chairman Wang Jian and spoke with him about possible cooperation between the sides, adding that he "for sure" would consider acquiring unspecified businesses from the ailing Chinese conglomerate.
On whether AirAsia Group was interested in acquiring HNA Group's interests in Hong Kong Express (UO, Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok) and Hong Kong Airlines (HX, Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok) Hong Kong Airlines and Hong Kong Express, which are owned by HNA, Fernandes said, "We are always interested in whatever opportunities go our way." He went on to highlight that discussions with Wang have so far not been about airlines in Hong Kong specifically.
HNA Group has been disposing of its various assets as well as equity in its operations as a means of raising liquidity to meet debt repayment deadlines.
According to Bloomberg News, Hainan Airlines Holdings is planning to sell some of its office buildings and hotels in Beijing and Shanghai to cover its maturing debt. The carrier holding has a total of nine properties up for sale, with an estimated book value of CNY14 billion yuan (USD2.2 billion).
Among the assets for sale include the Shanghai NHA Tower, the Shanghai Yangtze International Enterprise Plaza, and the Renaissance Shanghai Pudong Hotel.
Joined: Sep 2016
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From: Europe
How does the salary at HK Express compares with Honk Kong Airlines?
I heard that the life at HK Express is not that bad compared with HKA due to less layovers and less flying days. Anyone care to give some inputs?
I heard that the life at HK Express is not that bad compared with HKA due to less layovers and less flying days. Anyone care to give some inputs?

Joined: Dec 1998
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Another useless management, with no idea of the chaos they will soon be dealing with. All the HK airlines are management by morons. They will soon realise just how difficult it is to have aircraft operate without pilots. They deserve the misery they will create for themselves.
Joined: Jan 2010
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From: turkey
This job sucks
Been there more than a year. First of all, living in HK sucks. Everything that everyone said on this forum about the high costs, small apartments, etc. but my biggest issue personally is there is just way too many people. Way too many. Taking the buses and trains with the way they drive them makes you feel like a ping pong ball and that too becomes tiring.
I’ve been going to HK for 7 years but this is the first time I actually lived there. Maybe I need more time who knows.
I can tell you this about HKE. Training is horrible. CAE has so many differences between what they do and what HKE wants.They could care less about airmanship, common sense, or stick and rudder. As long as you can be s robotic monkey, act like a parakeet, and sing the FMA changes you’ll be fine.
There is no line training here just checking and your expected to know all the paperwork, SOP, etc perfectly from day one. If you don’t believe me then come here and you’ll see.
I knew what the pay was and the schedule before coming here so I won’t mention this but what I didn’t know is just how bad the training is and how many people are let go during line checks for very minor things.
Very pedantic here, robotic and a crap environment. Now, once you get past the line check then it’s peaches and crepe in as far as the crews you work with.
The pay needs to come way up, the schedule needs to get better with more days off, and then this would be a good job. Right now it sucks
I’ve been going to HK for 7 years but this is the first time I actually lived there. Maybe I need more time who knows.
I can tell you this about HKE. Training is horrible. CAE has so many differences between what they do and what HKE wants.They could care less about airmanship, common sense, or stick and rudder. As long as you can be s robotic monkey, act like a parakeet, and sing the FMA changes you’ll be fine.
There is no line training here just checking and your expected to know all the paperwork, SOP, etc perfectly from day one. If you don’t believe me then come here and you’ll see.
I knew what the pay was and the schedule before coming here so I won’t mention this but what I didn’t know is just how bad the training is and how many people are let go during line checks for very minor things.
Very pedantic here, robotic and a crap environment. Now, once you get past the line check then it’s peaches and crepe in as far as the crews you work with.
The pay needs to come way up, the schedule needs to get better with more days off, and then this would be a good job. Right now it sucks

Joined: Jul 2013
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: Sunny Bay
Turkpilot, the crowds are getting to me too. It’s worse at certain times of the year, and lately (Easter?) it was especially bad. Most often it’s worst around major holidays, especially the Chinese holidays, when mainlanders flood into the city.
For people who have never experienced the daily human crush it might seem a trivial complaint, but the longer you stay the more it grinds you down. You just can’t escape the shoving, the pushing, the blocking, the endless chattering of a million voices wittering on in an alien language. The ignorant self centred behaviour which you eventually come to realise is deeply symptomatic of their utter disregard for the rest of humanity. That’s THEIR coping mechanism. To them - nobody else exists. They are alone in a crowd, day dreaming, weaving randomly, staring at their phone screen, diving out of doorways into your path. They never give way. Never ‘filter through the traffic’. There’s no ‘pardon me’ or ‘excuse me’ or ‘sorry!’. They hold their ground, they’ll walk through you if you don’t step aside. They’d step over you if you dropped dead on the floor.
The worst part is you eventually start to act like they do. It’s the only way to make progress down a street! By pushing back. Give them the evil eye. A fit of hoarse coughing and sneezing works a treat - they’re all hypochondriacs and they’ll run a mile from your germs.
Anyone planning to work in Hong Kong should read this Blog. Have a good dig around. It’s hilarious. But sadly, all too true.
https://ihatehongkong2.wordpress.com...guest-speaker/
For people who have never experienced the daily human crush it might seem a trivial complaint, but the longer you stay the more it grinds you down. You just can’t escape the shoving, the pushing, the blocking, the endless chattering of a million voices wittering on in an alien language. The ignorant self centred behaviour which you eventually come to realise is deeply symptomatic of their utter disregard for the rest of humanity. That’s THEIR coping mechanism. To them - nobody else exists. They are alone in a crowd, day dreaming, weaving randomly, staring at their phone screen, diving out of doorways into your path. They never give way. Never ‘filter through the traffic’. There’s no ‘pardon me’ or ‘excuse me’ or ‘sorry!’. They hold their ground, they’ll walk through you if you don’t step aside. They’d step over you if you dropped dead on the floor.
The worst part is you eventually start to act like they do. It’s the only way to make progress down a street! By pushing back. Give them the evil eye. A fit of hoarse coughing and sneezing works a treat - they’re all hypochondriacs and they’ll run a mile from your germs.
Anyone planning to work in Hong Kong should read this Blog. Have a good dig around. It’s hilarious. But sadly, all too true.
https://ihatehongkong2.wordpress.com...guest-speaker/
Joined: Jan 2010
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From: turkey
Spot on. They never hold the door for you. Walking in the MTR is a hazard because these local zombies can’t walk without staring at their phone so they wind up smacking into me all the time. I got to the point I dodgeball and just slam my way into them with no “excuse me” to try to teach them life doesn’t exist on an iPhone. OMG thr language. I’m not sure which is worse Cantonese or putonghua but my god the way they talk gives me a migraine. Their are only two levels of volume here, OFF and EXTREME. Yes, they are extremely non spatial oriented, there is no one else in the universe except them.
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From: Australia
Joined: Mar 2018
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From: Australia
Been there more than a year. First of all, living in HK sucks. Everything that everyone said on this forum about the high costs, small apartments, etc. but my biggest issue personally is there is just way too many people. Way too many. Taking the buses and trains with the way they drive them makes you feel like a ping pong ball and that too becomes tiring.
I’ve been going to HK for 7 years but this is the first time I actually lived there. Maybe I need more time who knows.
I can tell you this about HKE. Training is horrible. CAE has so many differences between what they do and what HKE wants.They could care less about airmanship, common sense, or stick and rudder. As long as you can be s robotic monkey, act like a parakeet, and sing the FMA changes you’ll be fine.
There is no line training here just checking and your expected to know all the paperwork, SOP, etc perfectly from day one. If you don’t believe me then come here and you’ll see.
I knew what the pay was and the schedule before coming here so I won’t mention this but what I didn’t know is just how bad the training is and how many people are let go during line checks for very minor things.
Very pedantic here, robotic and a crap environment. Now, once you get past the line check then it’s peaches and crepe in as far as the crews you work with.
The pay needs to come way up, the schedule needs to get better with more days off, and then this would be a good job. Right now it sucks
I’ve been going to HK for 7 years but this is the first time I actually lived there. Maybe I need more time who knows.
I can tell you this about HKE. Training is horrible. CAE has so many differences between what they do and what HKE wants.They could care less about airmanship, common sense, or stick and rudder. As long as you can be s robotic monkey, act like a parakeet, and sing the FMA changes you’ll be fine.
There is no line training here just checking and your expected to know all the paperwork, SOP, etc perfectly from day one. If you don’t believe me then come here and you’ll see.
I knew what the pay was and the schedule before coming here so I won’t mention this but what I didn’t know is just how bad the training is and how many people are let go during line checks for very minor things.
Very pedantic here, robotic and a crap environment. Now, once you get past the line check then it’s peaches and crepe in as far as the crews you work with.
The pay needs to come way up, the schedule needs to get better with more days off, and then this would be a good job. Right now it sucks

Joined: Jul 2013
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 295
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From: Sunny Bay
Spot on. They never hold the door for you. Walking in the MTR is a hazard because these local zombies can’t walk without staring at their phone so they wind up smacking into me all the time. I got to the point I dodgeball and just slam my way into them with no “excuse me” to try to teach them life doesn’t exist on an iPhone. OMG thr language. I’m not sure which is worse Cantonese or putonghua but my god the way they talk gives me a migraine. Their are only two levels of volume here, OFF and EXTREME. Yes, they are extremely non spatial oriented, there is no one else in the universe except them.
It’s funny how the ‘little things’ you once took for granted in life become so much more significant once they’re gone.



