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Why No Thread About Profit Share Yet?

Old 12th Mar 2014, 18:32
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Sydney man

Sydney man, Chip in for the Ruski, If you cut to much in the wrong department it can bite you ( pun intended )
Just youtube J0y [email protected] to see what happen if you cut back to much in the wrong department..
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Old 12th Mar 2014, 23:33
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For all the great work our management team has done to contribute to our 2.6B profit, I hereby support the motion to give them all 6 months bonus! Or 2000HKD, whichever is less.
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 01:00
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Well how do the "help 'em out" brigade feel now?


G day workers
Flash mob volunteers (pilots, cabin crew & ground staff)
G day workers
TV commercial volunteers (pilots, cabin crew & ground staff)
G day workers
"A day in the life of a [take your pick: pilot, cabin crew, ground staff]" volunteers
G day workers
RETI nazis
G day workers
"less than CFP" types


please feel free to add to the list!

Each and every one of them has contributed in part to our predicament.

I weep when I face the reality that despite all of the anger, there'll still be people volunteering and helping out tomorrow, next week, next month....

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Old 13th Mar 2014, 05:13
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here here Broadband
so true
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 05:54
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all eligible CX and KA employees will be awarded profit share for their contribution to the modest success of the two airlines in 2013.
Thank you, oh merciful Lord, for your boundless generosity.
Despite our pitiful laziness, our lack of cooperative efforts in working on our days off, our failure to shut down engines when taxying, our lackluster effort in despatching with bare minimum fuel, our vainglorious refusal to accept a paycut and instead accepting a decadent and undeserved 0% payrise...

Despite this shameless, inconsiderate, undeserving attitude of ours which permitted only a measly, pitiful 200% rise in your deserved earnings, only you, dear Merciful Lord, had the bleeding heart to award us with such generous compensation.

We shall forever be at your debt for such a display of benevolence. Please do not let my angry comrades strain your charitableness for I assure you, my Lord, that I will endeavor from now on to persevere in my efforts to render your cross easier to bear.

No sickness shall prevent me from striving for you.
No day off shall serve as an excuse for my sinful laziness.
No amount of wasteful excess fuel shall find its way in my tanks.

Please accept my repentant apologies.
Yours devotedly.
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 05:56
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Here here?

Are you a British? At least you ought to know how to spell your own antiquated sayings! Let go of the 17th century. The days of the British empire are long gone.

Hear, hear!

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Old 13th Mar 2014, 08:36
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Can I suggest that all crew send an email to benefits/salaries and demand that the 2000$ be transferred directly to the SSC..?
Nice to know, that in these days of greater risk at the coal face, those of us who create the real revenue by flying the airframes that define the airline, are served such paltry justice. Increasing marginalisation, decreasing recognition of skill and responsibility and that ever increasing distance between flying management and real crew, have all pushed us into a corner that will probably mark the end of airline flying as a once noble career. The variance of risk now has little bearing on reward, other than salary differentials and let's face it, that is now changing significantly for the worse. What risk factors do marketing face??, IT, catering and the gate gods??...so for those of us who have to deal with multiple bird strikes, bad fuel, MTOW engine failures, multiple all eng EGT over temps before 80 knts et al...19 hr duty cycles and all the rest of the BS that goes with this job..maybe now is the time to rethink the real fuel required in that cfp, pra'sand jump seat requests...the same pitiful profit share dictates a similar reaction as our new net worth on that coal face...shame on them.
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 09:19
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Very well said Pucka. Very well said.

Bb circuit....couldn't agree more

But they won't learn. Never do.
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 09:37
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Pucka,

I think the days of airline flying as a noble career ended with EU liberalisation. Once Ryanair/ Easyjet etc showed the way to make money in airlines was to pile them high, and sell them cheap, it was only a matter of time before the same came to Asia.
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 09:50
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Clearly the freighter guys should not get any profit share as they were not trying hard enough.
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 14:03
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Angry Thank you for the thank you letter me Lord!

What a joke and another slap in the face! Good luck with your "ground - line". Hope the passengers enjoy being towed around the tarmac.
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 15:31
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on a side note, saw this online

Lenovo Group Ltd. (992), the biggest personal computer maker, said Chief Executive Officer Yang Yuanqing will share at least $3 million of his bonus with workers for a second straight year after posting record sales.

About 10,000 workers will get payments this month to recognize their contributions, Gina Qiao, senior vice president of human resources, said in a memo to some workers. The memo was confirmed by spokesman Jeffrey Shafer, who said the total payment will be about $3.25 million.


The average payment of about $325 is almost equal to a monthís pay for a typical city worker in China. The average annual wage of urban workers at private companies last year was 28,752 yuan, the National Bureau of Statistics said in May. Thatís equal to about $392 a month.
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 15:36
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Old 13th Mar 2014, 16:48
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You're in the wrong job, matey!

2,000 Sports Direct staff to receive £100,000 bonus after record profits | Business | The Guardian
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Old 14th Mar 2014, 04:21
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Sports Direct - what utopia. Me thinks our leaders prefer the Macavelli model of business. Intimidation, innuendo, insolence and insult. I'm lovin it! I know my place.
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Old 14th Mar 2014, 07:10
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Free hills..very true..since that clown O'leary got his circus off the ground! we have all been reduced to the Lidle equivalent of the airline world but I would hazard a guess that even a shelf stacker at Tesco gets a better pro raga profit share than we do...
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Old 14th Mar 2014, 08:39
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Not sure about Tesco, but...

J Sainsbury plc / Sainsbury?s colleagues share in company success with record £90million bonus pot
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Old 14th Mar 2014, 21:13
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...and there's more...

Wetherspoon pays staff £14m bonus - Telegraph
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Old 15th Mar 2014, 04:30
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the lack of decent pay and housing for new joiners
Nobody warned them at all.

How about " the lack of decent experienced new joiners". Not only CX of course.
Only when they've fixed the "give anybody a free ride to an airline job" mentality, can proper benefits be awarded, and the Industry may start to turn around.

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Old 15th Mar 2014, 11:39
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How about " the lack of decent experienced new joiners". Not only CX of course.
Only when they've fixed the "give anybody a free ride to an airline job" mentality, can proper benefits be awarded, and the Industry may start to turn around.
Well said there!
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