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744drv 5th Mar 2014 10:34

Why No Thread About Profit Share Yet?
 
Someone has usually started the discussion .... are we getting one? .... how big will it be? ...... why 6000HKD plus X number of weeks? ..... why was the formula changed? ..... how can the company make huge profits and only give us a measly XXXXHKD ..... why do we save fuel etc only to receive an insultingly small PS? ..... who cares about PS, where is our wage increase?

There, whole discussion done for another year :hmm:

twotigers 5th Mar 2014 10:50

6K & 3 weeks. Which will be a goddamn joke given their profit

pill 5th Mar 2014 11:33

6k or 3 weeks. The lower of, of course.

SMOC 5th Mar 2014 23:46

It's to be spent on 20 -8I's :}

Anotherday 8th Mar 2014 00:41

Got 2 days last time from memory, making 12-15 times that profit this time. Formula was last revised to kick in earlier but reduce as profits increased. Therefore max would be 30, min 24ish days, around 3 weeks (since profit share tapers) from analysts estimates of profits. The more we make the less we get, as a ratio, though the amount still increases.
Rumour of a new formula this year, so who knows.............

744drv 8th Mar 2014 17:34

The current Profit Share agreement is valid until after the profit share declaration of 2015. So this year would be a good time to start negotiating a new agreement. Given the progress rate between AOA and the company maybe we should have started reviewing it a year or so ago. I recall that in 2011 or 12 that the Annual Results came out without a PS agreement in place, the company saw sense not to use that as an excuse to say "ah well no agreement .... no profit share", I think a mutiny would have ensued.

AnAmusedReader 10th Mar 2014 03:14

a good time to start negotiating a new agreement
 
Unfortunately it's not negotiable - never has been. It's company policy, from the goodness of their hearts, in its sole discretion, loaded in their favour, all the usual CX get out caveats.

swh 10th Mar 2014 04:36


Originally Posted by AnAmusedReader
Unfortunately it's not negotiable - never has been. It's company policy, from the goodness of their hearts, in its sole discretion, loaded in their favour, all the usual CX get out caveats.

Everything is negotiable, KA always get 13th month and pilot medicals paid for.

Border Reiver 10th Mar 2014 07:14

Both 13th month and paid medicals are included in KA contracts. So negotiation not required.

744drv 10th Mar 2014 08:41

If it is a PS AGREEMENT then some negotiation has taken place at some time

SMOC 10th Mar 2014 10:31

Nice healthy profit.
 
Orient Aviation March 2014


Hong Kong’s Cathay Pacific Airways is expected to report a robust profit when its announces its full year results for 2013 this month. Analysts predict the airline could more than double the HK$916 million (US$118.2 million) profit of 2012. The positive predictions follow a period of healthy business class travel in the fiscal fourth quarter and higher yields from its premium economy class, which is now being extended from long haul routes to regional services. The airline group is helped by the fact that China and its fast growing millions of wealthy consumers are ambitious and status conscious when it comes to their airline of choice. Cathay Pacific is the right fit for this group, with its emphasis on prestigious premium service, luxurious lounges and a partner, in flag carrier, Air China (29.99%) that sends a lot of customers its way. This month, the airline launches its fifth service to New York, this time to Newark. In coming months it will increase frequencies to Australia, Chicago and Los Angeles and build its code share agreements. Cargo, however, remains deep in the doldrums – after a short fillip in business late last year and a pick-up in the peak pre-Chinese New Year. The airline still is carrying significant over-capacity in freighters. Last month, Cathay added its 12th U.S. freighter destination, Columbus, Ohio with a twice a week schedule. Earlier in the month, it launched a three times a week freighter service to Mexico City.

Oval3Holer 12th Mar 2014 04:46

Why no thread? 'Cause we can't afford it!

HK $2,000?

Gimme a break!

kmagyoyo 12th Mar 2014 04:49

Thats awesome... I owe that in overpaid allowances.

:8

Frogman1484 12th Mar 2014 05:22

$2000 or half a month if lower.. Who the heck gets paid $4000 per month!!!!

How much did we save with out single engine taxi?

:mad::eek::ugh::{

The FUB 12th Mar 2014 05:27

How will you spend yours. Mine will go on 300kg of fuel next sector!

A3301FD 12th Mar 2014 05:30

Just another management slap in the face! :mad:

But we got a good faith bargaining agreement - oh boy. :rolleyes:

No pay increase, no housing issue resolved, education costs in HK rising, crap offering on LON base, no other base offers forthcoming.

But they will TRY to avoid rostering rest periods of 18-30...bollocks! Airbus roster thats all you get! :rolleyes:

Keep taking that 100kgs off for management, keep doing the RETI... :ok:

Booger 12th Mar 2014 05:34

Classic
 

I was hoping to get a Ruski at escape, looks like i can only get a flippo now.
:D

Tears. Tears of laughter!!

Arfur Dent 12th Mar 2014 05:42

I should think there's another $39 Million being distributed to a couple of Members of the boardroom too. The payment of $2000 HKD is actually more insulting than not paying anything at all. Such style from our 'Caring' employer.

dartman748 12th Mar 2014 05:48

You are F..king kidding me! $2,000!?!?! WTF!


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