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Swine Flu
SWINE FLU
Swine flu is a respiratory disease found in pigs
Human cases usually occur in those who have contact with pigs
Human-to-human transmission is rare and such cases are closely monitored
Q&A: Swine flu
Watch out - Don't make any contracts with Swire's ( Sorry Swine's) !
Full details avail on BBC!
We would all be-able to help if Swire's were not Pigs & were able to talk like human's!
And not force chances to our life's work for the sake of third party neg.
Guys all I ask is do not get infected with Swine Flu! Wear a mask & do not bow down to there sub-level. Stand up for yourselfs in a respectable way!
And another thing. Prepare for all those whom get infect with Swine flu to be against you. Thus we also need to find a cure for those poor soles prior to 10May.
We are all in this together whether you like it or not!
Get your lateral thinking caps on and write to AoA with solid practical well though out solutions or sub ideas.
Swine flu is a respiratory disease found in pigs
Human cases usually occur in those who have contact with pigs
Human-to-human transmission is rare and such cases are closely monitored
Q&A: Swine flu
Watch out - Don't make any contracts with Swire's ( Sorry Swine's) !
Full details avail on BBC!
We would all be-able to help if Swire's were not Pigs & were able to talk like human's!
And not force chances to our life's work for the sake of third party neg.
Guys all I ask is do not get infected with Swine Flu! Wear a mask & do not bow down to there sub-level. Stand up for yourselfs in a respectable way!
And another thing. Prepare for all those whom get infect with Swine flu to be against you. Thus we also need to find a cure for those poor soles prior to 10May.
We are all in this together whether you like it or not!
Get your lateral thinking caps on and write to AoA with solid practical well though out solutions or sub ideas.
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Unfortunately , this flu is looking worse an worse by the minute
Swine flu , just might come along and totally throw the cat amongst the pidgeons on this one ......, as someone said 100 bucks it will be the next company memo , lets hope not
this is looking like a sars NAM style ...wait and see how this one turns out , fingers crossed
Swine flu , just might come along and totally throw the cat amongst the pidgeons on this one ......, as someone said 100 bucks it will be the next company memo , lets hope not
this is looking like a sars NAM style ...wait and see how this one turns out , fingers crossed
The aussie media is all over it this morning. Standby for the feeding frenzy. It will make hungry sharks look quite docile.
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Dont make me laugh, this is just another attempt my the medical authorities to drive up shares in pharmacutical companies, preying on peoples deep routed fears in viruses and the like. So 20 people die in Mexico City, probably one of the poorer cities in the world, dont you think people die there all the time and not due to some manufactured "flu" virus!
I would expect nothing less than Australian immigration control to be all over this one, a bigger bunch of baffoons I have never had the pleasure in meeting.
The whole thing is a farce, convince the world there is pandemic and lo and behold you have one, such is people's susceptibility to messages blasted out from the worldwide media. We live in a day and age where the vast majority have lost their critical thinking abilities and as a result are victims slain on the altar of corporate agendas. We are convinced by media assaults on our senses and fear that we which we do not understand. Driven by fear, im sure there are some parrallels with COS08, SLS, there somewhere....
I would expect nothing less than Australian immigration control to be all over this one, a bigger bunch of baffoons I have never had the pleasure in meeting.
The whole thing is a farce, convince the world there is pandemic and lo and behold you have one, such is people's susceptibility to messages blasted out from the worldwide media. We live in a day and age where the vast majority have lost their critical thinking abilities and as a result are victims slain on the altar of corporate agendas. We are convinced by media assaults on our senses and fear that we which we do not understand. Driven by fear, im sure there are some parrallels with COS08, SLS, there somewhere....
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Ok well do a check on the previous swine flu "epidemic" from 1976 and you will see what a load of hogwash, excuse the pun, the whole thing was. In that instance one US army soldier became ill and the whole camp was vaccinated with a flue vaccination in the end leading to widespread health problems not from a virus but the vaccination itself. In the end the population at large became vaccinated leading to all sorts of health issues non related to a flu virus and the US government was forced to pay millions in compensation, with the NIH finally admitting that the whole thing was a medical blunder. Seems like people have short memories. Do some reasearch yourself before labelling others.
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I'm with EXEZY 100% on this.
There are around 36,000 flu related deaths IN THE U.S ALONE each year.
If we just slaughtered all the press instead of the birds and pigs, we would be a hell of a lot better off
ing press can take a bow for causing far more panic than is necessary with the financial crisis too..........s
There are around 36,000 flu related deaths IN THE U.S ALONE each year.
If we just slaughtered all the press instead of the birds and pigs, we would be a hell of a lot better off
ing press can take a bow for causing far more panic than is necessary with the financial crisis too..........s
This whole Swine flu thing has the hall marks of the SARS debacle all over again. A complete world wide hysteria driven by a media frenzy that was out of control.
Like many mothers whose children work as journalists in China, mine has an exaggerated fear of the Chinese government and all its agents.
My more worldly dad, on the other hand, understands that it is often the littler and far less dramatic things that one should worry more about. "I am much more worried about the Chinese mosquitoes than I am about their politicians and police," he once, wrote me before I ventured off for a backpacking trip through south and southwest China.
"You are too smart to run afoul of the law, but dumb enough not to take that medication. Malaria and hepatitis are no fun - so be careful and swallow the pills."
The tiny coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars), therefore, has both of my parents plenty worried so much so that I was somewhat surprised by the urgency of their tone over the phone during the past few weeks.
My mother being a mother is particularly upset, and it does not help that many of her friends and acquaintances frequently ask her about the health of her far flung son and are generous in their suggestions of many a homespun remedy. Had I, for example, considered walking around with a dab Bacitracin ointment under each of my nostrils? Well no, I had not.
It did not take me long to figure out that my own profession bears much blame for the overblown fears of my parents and many others. Consider this recent gem from the pages of the Economist, which is one of my father's favourite windows onto, the outside world: "Streets in [Hong Kong's] business district normally bustling, are eerily quiet. Rush hour is gone, as people try to take public transport at unusual hours. Everybody who has a face mask wears it."
Everybody? Really? The South China Morning Post was so concerned about the health of its employees that it sold us all masks a set of two or three for HK$12, if I remember right. I'm not sure because I never wore them and now I cannot even remember where I put them. Most of my friends and colleagues have not worn theirs either.
One friend a long time Hong Kong resident – was travelling in China when the outbreak here first hit the international headlines.
"My brain says we're seeing something of an over reaction and when a 14 year old's fake Web site can empty shelves in Wellcome I know we're not dealing with a rational fear,” he e mailed me as he was making his way overland back to Hong. “But all the same – should I be wearing that mask?”
I told him I did not think it was as bad as all that, and I thought his reaction after arriving back in Hong Kong summed it all up rather well: "The situation looks a lot more manageable from inside Hong Kong than it does from outside.”
Another friend in Tokyo, who works for a major multinational company, e-mailed me about a recent episode at the office. “It is nice to confirm that you are alive,” my friend wrote. “We had a visitor from Hong Kong last week. Some people in my office got pretty nervous getting close to this person. Though he didn't realise that he was not welcome, I still felt sorry for him."
I have even gotten a taste of this myself. Tonight I am supposed to fly to England for a wedding. Or at least I think I am. My invitation is now conditional upon a poll of the guests, who will be asked if they are comfortable if someone from Hong Kong is milling about in their midst.
'It is an irrational fear, but also an understandable one. And, perhaps it is easy to be too blasé about such things.
So at least my parents are not the only ones worried beyond distraction about Sars. Besides nervous wedding guests and Tokyo office workers, they also have as company some of the world’s leading health professionals. Consider, as an example, this little anecdote I heard about during a brief visit to Guangzhou last week.
A friend had attended a recent press conference given by officials from the World Health Organisation and Guangdong Health Bureau in Guangzhou. After the officials had taken their last questions and the two teams said goodbye to each other, my friend noticed one WHO delegate heading to the bathroom.
Perhaps thinking he could get in a question or two at the urinals, my friend followed the WHO official. But as it turned out, the WHO expert did not have to use the bathroom. Instead, my friend found him standing at the sink. Having just shaken hands with his Guangdong counterparts, the WHO official was scrubbing his own, furiously, with liquid soap and warm water.
Living with Sars
By Tom Mitchell
South China Morning Post
Tuesday, April 22, 2003
By Tom Mitchell
South China Morning Post
Tuesday, April 22, 2003
Like many mothers whose children work as journalists in China, mine has an exaggerated fear of the Chinese government and all its agents.
My more worldly dad, on the other hand, understands that it is often the littler and far less dramatic things that one should worry more about. "I am much more worried about the Chinese mosquitoes than I am about their politicians and police," he once, wrote me before I ventured off for a backpacking trip through south and southwest China.
"You are too smart to run afoul of the law, but dumb enough not to take that medication. Malaria and hepatitis are no fun - so be careful and swallow the pills."
The tiny coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars), therefore, has both of my parents plenty worried so much so that I was somewhat surprised by the urgency of their tone over the phone during the past few weeks.
My mother being a mother is particularly upset, and it does not help that many of her friends and acquaintances frequently ask her about the health of her far flung son and are generous in their suggestions of many a homespun remedy. Had I, for example, considered walking around with a dab Bacitracin ointment under each of my nostrils? Well no, I had not.
It did not take me long to figure out that my own profession bears much blame for the overblown fears of my parents and many others. Consider this recent gem from the pages of the Economist, which is one of my father's favourite windows onto, the outside world: "Streets in [Hong Kong's] business district normally bustling, are eerily quiet. Rush hour is gone, as people try to take public transport at unusual hours. Everybody who has a face mask wears it."
Everybody? Really? The South China Morning Post was so concerned about the health of its employees that it sold us all masks a set of two or three for HK$12, if I remember right. I'm not sure because I never wore them and now I cannot even remember where I put them. Most of my friends and colleagues have not worn theirs either.
One friend a long time Hong Kong resident – was travelling in China when the outbreak here first hit the international headlines.
"My brain says we're seeing something of an over reaction and when a 14 year old's fake Web site can empty shelves in Wellcome I know we're not dealing with a rational fear,” he e mailed me as he was making his way overland back to Hong. “But all the same – should I be wearing that mask?”
I told him I did not think it was as bad as all that, and I thought his reaction after arriving back in Hong Kong summed it all up rather well: "The situation looks a lot more manageable from inside Hong Kong than it does from outside.”
Another friend in Tokyo, who works for a major multinational company, e-mailed me about a recent episode at the office. “It is nice to confirm that you are alive,” my friend wrote. “We had a visitor from Hong Kong last week. Some people in my office got pretty nervous getting close to this person. Though he didn't realise that he was not welcome, I still felt sorry for him."
I have even gotten a taste of this myself. Tonight I am supposed to fly to England for a wedding. Or at least I think I am. My invitation is now conditional upon a poll of the guests, who will be asked if they are comfortable if someone from Hong Kong is milling about in their midst.
'It is an irrational fear, but also an understandable one. And, perhaps it is easy to be too blasé about such things.
So at least my parents are not the only ones worried beyond distraction about Sars. Besides nervous wedding guests and Tokyo office workers, they also have as company some of the world’s leading health professionals. Consider, as an example, this little anecdote I heard about during a brief visit to Guangzhou last week.
A friend had attended a recent press conference given by officials from the World Health Organisation and Guangdong Health Bureau in Guangzhou. After the officials had taken their last questions and the two teams said goodbye to each other, my friend noticed one WHO delegate heading to the bathroom.
Perhaps thinking he could get in a question or two at the urinals, my friend followed the WHO official. But as it turned out, the WHO expert did not have to use the bathroom. Instead, my friend found him standing at the sink. Having just shaken hands with his Guangdong counterparts, the WHO official was scrubbing his own, furiously, with liquid soap and warm water.
Tom Mitchell is an Associate Editor in the Post's Business Department
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I must say, EXEZY, that I agree with the fact that the media is already in panic mode, much like they are with everything else. Would you expect anything less from those poor souls?
However, to say that this is being blown out of proportion so that the pharmas can make dough is a bit...well...blown out of proportion. Using 1976 as an example is hardly an argument breaker, because, if you have done your research, there have been other 'pandemics' which have existed.
To say whether or not this one matches the other ones in terms of lethality or seriousness is very hard to ascertain at this stage. Look at it objectively, there is nothing to panic about at this point. They're still having trouble trying to figure out who has died from this thing.
You know, SARS had a mortality rate of 9.6% across all age ranges. if it wasn't contained like it was back in '03, who knows what might have happened. In this case, I applaud the measures taken by the Mexican government, but I'm not about to go stock up on Tamiflu because of this.
However, to say that this is being blown out of proportion so that the pharmas can make dough is a bit...well...blown out of proportion. Using 1976 as an example is hardly an argument breaker, because, if you have done your research, there have been other 'pandemics' which have existed.
To say whether or not this one matches the other ones in terms of lethality or seriousness is very hard to ascertain at this stage. Look at it objectively, there is nothing to panic about at this point. They're still having trouble trying to figure out who has died from this thing.
You know, SARS had a mortality rate of 9.6% across all age ranges. if it wasn't contained like it was back in '03, who knows what might have happened. In this case, I applaud the measures taken by the Mexican government, but I'm not about to go stock up on Tamiflu because of this.
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Remember the hysteria over Bird Flu and the apparent lack of Tamiflu, well guess who was a huge share holder in the Californian biotech company that owns the rights to Tamiflu...you're right Donald Rumsfeld!!!!
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Tamiflu is one of the most toxic medicines you can take. It kills an enzyme in your body which results in the thickening of the blood, thus it is harder for the body to transport O2 this in turn leads to suffocation in some cases, especially in young children. Suprise, suprise guess who they are aiming the Tamiflu at, thats right kids. When you have mass death from Tamiflu, they will attribute this to "Pig flu" and there is your pandemic. No im not a conspiray theorist but you wont find me touching tamiflu or any fing vaccine!
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I always believed a Virus could not be treated as per
the AIDS problem, how come the FLU antivirals work?
Or. as the previous post implies- maybe they don't.
but what would I know, I'm a simpleton pilot.
the AIDS problem, how come the FLU antivirals work?
Or. as the previous post implies- maybe they don't.
but what would I know, I'm a simpleton pilot.
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The more the word pandemic is mentioned, the more global stocks rally...time to buy or sell? Like post SARS, once this swine thing is over, stocks will have a sustained rally. My bet is that not all SLS will ever be taken, and those not taking it will be on substantial overtime.
As I always mention, Tung Chung apartments are my barometer, already up 25% this year.
As I always mention, Tung Chung apartments are my barometer, already up 25% this year.
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Hi Trefly...you should sell now on the rally...the flu in the USA will lead to a drop in consumer spending which is 75% of the US economy. So be prepared the next quarter results will reflect this. Once the flu thing is over , you will see a big rally just like HKG in 2003.
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Swine flu is a completely different animal from SARS.
The H1N1 virus type is well known.
There is a trwatment known and proven for this virus.
In 2-3 months, there will be a vaccine for this virus.
Although a pandemic may occur in a short time, the long term effects are going to be minor.
Healthy and well medicated societies are not in serious danger.
Check out the modelling at the Centre for Disease Control.
Whatever you do, don't allow this "blip" to influence decisions that will control your long term future.
Stock up on Tamiflu or equivalent!
Buy pharmaceutical shares - oops, too late!
The H1N1 virus type is well known.
There is a trwatment known and proven for this virus.
In 2-3 months, there will be a vaccine for this virus.
Although a pandemic may occur in a short time, the long term effects are going to be minor.
Healthy and well medicated societies are not in serious danger.
Check out the modelling at the Centre for Disease Control.
Whatever you do, don't allow this "blip" to influence decisions that will control your long term future.
Stock up on Tamiflu or equivalent!
Buy pharmaceutical shares - oops, too late!
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I'm with EXEZI 100%. Well done. finally some people are begining to see behind the curtain.
I think the question we all should be asking ourselves nowadays is Qui Bono, who gains with all this story. To me it is very simple, the pharma industry. Look at the chronology, first the financial crash, now the flu scare blamed on the poor pigs and whatever else is coming next. Do your own research and don't always believe what you read or see on the news or what you are told by the politicians, they are in it for the money, all of them. One example, Tamiflu, the "wonder drug" (that can kill you) developed by Gilead Sciences and approved in 1999 while a criminal named Donald Rumsfeld who has been in the revolving door for more than 30 years (yes, the very same that managed to push Aspartame through approval by the FDA in 1981, the very same that delivered the weapons of mass destruction to Iraq in 1983 and later lied about it, the very same that sold the nuclear technology to North Korea in 2000, the list goes on) and was its CEO and is still pocketing on the commercial rights of this drug. Going to the chronology again, why did the outbreak scare started on the very day B. Obama left Mexico after a brief visit there (probably to warn the mexican government that they should leave the cocaine cartels alone because they were ruining the business that provides the biggest source of income to the U.S.).
Do your own research and stay out of the mainstream media, they are not telling the truth. Time to wake up.
I think the question we all should be asking ourselves nowadays is Qui Bono, who gains with all this story. To me it is very simple, the pharma industry. Look at the chronology, first the financial crash, now the flu scare blamed on the poor pigs and whatever else is coming next. Do your own research and don't always believe what you read or see on the news or what you are told by the politicians, they are in it for the money, all of them. One example, Tamiflu, the "wonder drug" (that can kill you) developed by Gilead Sciences and approved in 1999 while a criminal named Donald Rumsfeld who has been in the revolving door for more than 30 years (yes, the very same that managed to push Aspartame through approval by the FDA in 1981, the very same that delivered the weapons of mass destruction to Iraq in 1983 and later lied about it, the very same that sold the nuclear technology to North Korea in 2000, the list goes on) and was its CEO and is still pocketing on the commercial rights of this drug. Going to the chronology again, why did the outbreak scare started on the very day B. Obama left Mexico after a brief visit there (probably to warn the mexican government that they should leave the cocaine cartels alone because they were ruining the business that provides the biggest source of income to the U.S.).
Do your own research and stay out of the mainstream media, they are not telling the truth. Time to wake up.
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… and if you still think we can trust politicians, have a look at the latest in the UK. The "Manure Parliament”, as the population is beginning to call their government. Just read their pathetic excuses now that the s..t has hit the fan. And it’s the same everywhere. The New World Order is coming fast. Buckle up boys, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.