The Demise of Hong Kong Airlines
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It was something like 10 findings on the IOSA audit,
BUT
That was due to them having a professional in the position of cleaning up all the deficencies.
That professional is now happy employed with Swire Group.
In fact, all the Management that was in place for the IOSA is gone, therefore, they can't even really qualify for IOSA, as the people and systems that were originally audited aren't there anymore.
BUT
That was due to them having a professional in the position of cleaning up all the deficencies.
That professional is now happy employed with Swire Group.
In fact, all the Management that was in place for the IOSA is gone, therefore, they can't even really qualify for IOSA, as the people and systems that were originally audited aren't there anymore.
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The Animal Farm
"Four legs good, Two legs bad"
Animal Farm (1945) is a satirical novella (which can also be understood as a modern fable or allegory) by George Orwell, ostensibly about a group of animals who oust the humans from the farm on which they live. They run the farm themselves, only to have it degenerate into a brutal tyranny of its own.
Animal Farm (1945) is a satirical novella (which can also be understood as a modern fable or allegory) by George Orwell, ostensibly about a group of animals who oust the humans from the farm on which they live. They run the farm themselves, only to have it degenerate into a brutal tyranny of its own.
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Outstanding Work!
Well done to Slim for a very relevant analogy with the Animal Farm reference, and I think Leaving HKA will now pass into history for coining the latest term for the "management" at HKA, the "Singa-Swine". Do you mind if we shorten that term to the "SS""?
I seem to recall another group known as the SS that had a predominantly racial agenda.
I seem to recall another group known as the SS that had a predominantly racial agenda.
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Let's hope everyone will get a REAL offer and just leave and move on just like the rest of the guys. Why waste precious time digging, reading, hearing and complaining ? Snake or not Snake, Kissing A
s, upgrade or promote, wetters, HKA / HKE, KFC, CAD etc ... who cares BTW with so many waiting and wanting to leave. Better to focus at better options and with lesser heart ache, headache and not waste any precious time. Especially with so many recent offers for FO's and Capt's worldwide. Good luck to ALL.
s, upgrade or promote, wetters, HKA / HKE, KFC, CAD etc ... who cares BTW with so many waiting and wanting to leave. Better to focus at better options and with lesser heart ache, headache and not waste any precious time. Especially with so many recent offers for FO's and Capt's worldwide. Good luck to ALL.
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WE HAVE LEFT.
There are but a handle full of our mates left under SS control.
One is Europe interviewing, Another gave notice to join V Aus,
2 others are sitting on interviews elsewhere waiting..
There will be no one but FO puppy dogs that will allow the Swine to literally 'buy the farm' with all onboard.
I think perhaps we should start a pool as to when either they will be shut down/ merged with HKE/ or otherwise dismantled, or when the first prang occurs..
The point of this thread is to keep the public and future pilots (although as they will all be from the "master race" and likely not understand enough english to read this..) aware of what a joke this air service is.
There are but a handle full of our mates left under SS control.
One is Europe interviewing, Another gave notice to join V Aus,
2 others are sitting on interviews elsewhere waiting..
There will be no one but FO puppy dogs that will allow the Swine to literally 'buy the farm' with all onboard.
I think perhaps we should start a pool as to when either they will be shut down/ merged with HKE/ or otherwise dismantled, or when the first prang occurs..
The point of this thread is to keep the public and future pilots (although as they will all be from the "master race" and likely not understand enough english to read this..) aware of what a joke this air service is.
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This email was circulated today by the HKA training manager:
Hi Guys,
I noticed the norm during PCs with V1 cut, the procedure of BUG UP for flap clean up does not correspond well with CAD170 requirement of -0 to +200ft allowance in maintaining acceleration altitude while cleaning up the aircraft. I believe those following the standard practise would have failed this section in their PCs. The FD gives a target for acceleration with a slight climb. Almost everyone bust the altitude by 400 to 500 feet during the cleanup.
Recommendation for our PCs only:
In tricking the FD I would suggest using FPV and after BUG UP fly the FPV level with the horizon in order to maintain within the 200ft allowance but do not descend below the acceleration altitude. Once cleaned up, and after selection of LVL CHG, MCT etc, then follow the FD for climb.
It should read
Dear Bum buddies and all snakes who joined with us
Since all of us Singa Snakes lack in natural hands on skill of flying, use the following method.......we have no idea about 5degress AOB toward live engine or actual utilization of a general all round scan of instruments.
Oh, and all of you who joined before we killed this airline, you can actually fly so disregard this email.
All I can say is.........what a tosser.
Hi Guys,
I noticed the norm during PCs with V1 cut, the procedure of BUG UP for flap clean up does not correspond well with CAD170 requirement of -0 to +200ft allowance in maintaining acceleration altitude while cleaning up the aircraft. I believe those following the standard practise would have failed this section in their PCs. The FD gives a target for acceleration with a slight climb. Almost everyone bust the altitude by 400 to 500 feet during the cleanup.
Recommendation for our PCs only:
In tricking the FD I would suggest using FPV and after BUG UP fly the FPV level with the horizon in order to maintain within the 200ft allowance but do not descend below the acceleration altitude. Once cleaned up, and after selection of LVL CHG, MCT etc, then follow the FD for climb.
It should read
Dear Bum buddies and all snakes who joined with us
Since all of us Singa Snakes lack in natural hands on skill of flying, use the following method.......we have no idea about 5degress AOB toward live engine or actual utilization of a general all round scan of instruments.
Oh, and all of you who joined before we killed this airline, you can actually fly so disregard this email.
All I can say is.........what a tosser.
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Hey guys, stay chill !! 
The Hainanese have enough of "M" muscle to fly this HKA/HKE metal iron empty to keep the newly hired pilots as promised. 
Chinese "loose face" 
Keep it up HKA!!
The Hainanese have enough of "M" muscle to fly this HKA/HKE metal iron empty to keep the newly hired pilots as promised. Chinese "loose face" Keep it up HKA!!
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What a bunch of losers ? Tell enough lies long enough and loud enough so that fools on pprune will believe you? Or do you think ppruners are really ALL a bunch of nincompoops? Take your purile and infantile ****ty gripes somewhere else and let Pprune remain a dignified forum!
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LIES?
Mate.. your obviously SS> Perhaps the Furher himself.
If it were lies, would 67 pilots have left the company in the last 14 months?
I have the senority list right here. All the actual pilots have left or have less than a few months left.
The total amount of crews online at the companies height was 63. They have churned through more crews than I think even the Chinese overlords realize.
Since Jan alone, there are close to 40 pilots who have left (and more leaving this month).
You can disregard ALL comments about Eric being a fagot tosser, or Singaswine have well lubed anus' or the only way they can fly is if Big B throws them into the air @ Starz
The fact remains, by the end of this month over 70 guys have voted with their feet.
There is NO debating that.
Mate.. your obviously SS> Perhaps the Furher himself.
If it were lies, would 67 pilots have left the company in the last 14 months?
I have the senority list right here. All the actual pilots have left or have less than a few months left.
The total amount of crews online at the companies height was 63. They have churned through more crews than I think even the Chinese overlords realize.
Since Jan alone, there are close to 40 pilots who have left (and more leaving this month).
You can disregard ALL comments about Eric being a fagot tosser, or Singaswine have well lubed anus' or the only way they can fly is if Big B throws them into the air @ Starz
The fact remains, by the end of this month over 70 guys have voted with their feet.
There is NO debating that.
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Well lookey here...
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Seems I was right. You are one of the SingaSwine.
If your location is , as listed , "in the arse end of the world", then I suspect Eric is wearing a smile on his face and his little nub is erect.
That is your favorite choice of arse isn't it?
GO HOME before you kill somebody
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I was with MAS in the 90's and I do remember the SEP procedures in hijack situations. As I understand it they applied only to Malaysian registered aircrafts. It would really be nice if the M'sian government and MAS come up with some meaningful commemoration for this tragic event
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I was with MAS in the 90's and I do remember the SEP procedures in hijack situations. As I understand it they applied only to Malaysian registered aircrafts. It would really be nice if the M'sian government and MAS come up with some meaningful commemoration for this tragic event
Seems I was right. You are one of the SingaSwine.
If your location is , as listed , "in the arse end of the world", then I suspect Eric is wearing a smile on his face and his little nub is erect.
That is your favorite choice of arse isn't it?
GO HOME before you kill somebody
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Or do you think ppruners are really ALL a bunch of nincompoops?
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Leaving; you might have lost in whatever powerplay you had but there is no need to trash the whole bunch of Singapore or SEAsian guys with your puerile attacks.
Nope you got it wrong, I ain't sinagaporean and I have not worked there except for layovers. I was with MAS and I do come from the arse end of the world.
You guys with your unreasonable and hateful view of life do nothing but tarnish the reputation of aviators in this open forum. Go home before I kill somebody.........I don't think so; but you might be soul dead soon with so much hatred , if not by a stroke or cardiac arrest to your physical self.
Nope you got it wrong, I ain't sinagaporean and I have not worked there except for layovers. I was with MAS and I do come from the arse end of the world.
You guys with your unreasonable and hateful view of life do nothing but tarnish the reputation of aviators in this open forum. Go home before I kill somebody.........I don't think so; but you might be soul dead soon with so much hatred , if not by a stroke or cardiac arrest to your physical self.
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Yawn....
The fact is, attacks aside.. you can't refute Leaving's fact that I and close to 70 overs have resigned from HKA. It was was for two reasons. Lack of Conditions of Service, and exceptionally poor racist managment.
You can't fire 14 of my friends for racial reasons, tell HKE's Ops Mgr he can't hire them, and expect us to stay.
Go ahead refute the facts. You can't.
HKA repeadtly told me that they couldn't pay pilots more as the had no revenue.
KA pays me 3 times as much (I can show you a pay stub. It's actually over 3 times) and makes big profits.
The only reason HKA doesn't have money is inept management.
SO .. this is the last I will post here. (unless I see further lies)
Any pilot reading this thread can feel free to disregard all the attacks, name calling, ect...
But pilots must realize who they will be working for if they join HKA.