The Demise of Hong Kong Airlines
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Whats happened SINGH? Realised you are way out of place with your spinless comments? You can't refute the posts on this thread can you?
Here are some other pointers for you and hopefully you don't come back to this forum to spread your lies.
1. The clowns trying to run the little HKA operation ARE from Singapore. FACT.
2. Some of the back door snakes FAILED their checks. FACT.
3. Lots of guys are leaving because HKA is now badly run. FACT.
4. All posts in this forum are from Australians. NOT A FACT. I am NOT an Australian.
Your attempt at fighting the truth is bordering on a racial comment and I wonder why your post is not deleted?
All comments made by others on this forum are based on fact and not in any way a racial issue, moreover a moral issue, but you have tried to turn it that way, and shame on you for doing so.
Here are some other pointers for you and hopefully you don't come back to this forum to spread your lies.
1. The clowns trying to run the little HKA operation ARE from Singapore. FACT.
2. Some of the back door snakes FAILED their checks. FACT.
3. Lots of guys are leaving because HKA is now badly run. FACT.
4. All posts in this forum are from Australians. NOT A FACT. I am NOT an Australian.
Your attempt at fighting the truth is bordering on a racial comment and I wonder why your post is not deleted?
All comments made by others on this forum are based on fact and not in any way a racial issue, moreover a moral issue, but you have tried to turn it that way, and shame on you for doing so.
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HKA Management Reshuffle
Top level management reshuffle happening tomorrow. Oh, by the way, top secret, best not pass this on less the Central Party Council lose face.
Look out for movement with the ex KA gurus.
Look out for movement with the ex KA gurus.
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SO because someone has 2500hrs and lots of PIC, they aren't as qualified as a 8000hr (parker pen likely) guy from a dubious backround?
Everyone one of those 14 has a job (better job) at better companies. Many hired by the competition.
Their 'inexperience' was replaced with a 300hr FO who has been trying to check to line for 2 years and keeps failing.. that is who replaced the 14 folks with several 1000 hrs..
SO because someone has 2500hrs and lots of PIC, they aren't as qualified as a 8000hr (parker pen likely) guy from a dubious backround?
Everyone one of those 14 has a job (better job) at better companies. Many hired by the competition.
Their 'inexperience' was replaced with a 300hr FO who has been trying to check to line for 2 years and keeps failing.. that is who replaced the 14 folks with several 1000 hrs..
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By the way..
Another Senior Western FO resigned today...Great Guy with lots of Jet PIC, and well liked.. HKA's loss..
ON a positive note for HKA, there are only about a 1/2 dozen western FO's left. They should have a low cost, low complaint work force in place within a few months.
Another Senior Western FO resigned today...Great Guy with lots of Jet PIC, and well liked.. HKA's loss..
ON a positive note for HKA, there are only about a 1/2 dozen western FO's left. They should have a low cost, low complaint work force in place within a few months.
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For those of you who have read your company emails today, I have a question for you:
How can you have any confidence to fly with the person the email was about?
An extremely poor attitude but even more worrying is the lack of standards and situational awareness with regard to tracking on an approach and also on departure below MSA.
If this does not scream out very loudly "CFIT candidate" I do not know what does!
How can you have any confidence to fly with the person the email was about?
An extremely poor attitude but even more worrying is the lack of standards and situational awareness with regard to tracking on an approach and also on departure below MSA.
If this does not scream out very loudly "CFIT candidate" I do not know what does!
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Hi AAIGUY!
"ON a positive note for HKA, there are only about a 1/2 dozen western FO's left. They should have a low cost, low complaint work force in place within a few months."
This was exactly what the 'SINGAS' wanted and did you not see that on the drawing board when the 'SS' moved in HKA/HKE with their limited experience from AHK....
Happy Flying and safe landings!
"ON a positive note for HKA, there are only about a 1/2 dozen western FO's left. They should have a low cost, low complaint work force in place within a few months."
This was exactly what the 'SINGAS' wanted and did you not see that on the drawing board when the 'SS' moved in HKA/HKE with their limited experience from AHK....
Happy Flying and safe landings!
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Senior management melt down?
Strong rumour amongst the aviation chattering classes in HK that two of the recent ex KA recruits to senior management at HKA/ HKE have "resigned" to spend more time with their families? No idea if this true or whether it augers well for the change to the company attitude to its pilots and operational standards?
As an outsider (albeit a qualified one) may I risk the ire of the clearly agitated HKA pilot force?
Although I fully understand the underlying reasons for the vitriol it is difficult to relate to some of the distasteful racist posts on this site. However it is PPrune -not the local parish magazine. It is difficult to believe that the aggrieved guys are aiming at the right targets - the operational managers can only do what the shareholders instruct them to and the CAD condones (or refuses to acknowledge they know about.)
There is a mechanism for ensuring the CAD are seen to know about safety issues and have to act - it is called MOR and anyone can submit. If on the other hand there is little wrong with the operational standards and this is purely a matter of an industrial dispute, then at least the thread is a great place to vent their spleen! Sadly, I suspect that some of the people posting may not know the difference.
Commercial failure will make the rest irrelevant, hopefully before there is an accident. The Oasis experience makes the point very eloquently that a sympathetic operational management paying above industry salaries with a faulty business model merely hasten the progress to the dole queue.
The bright side is, as the sacked guys proved, a B737-800 rating and some jet hours put you in a far better position to get an interview with a decent operator than turbo prop hours with a third level Aussie carrier.
I hope happier times are ahead - aviation is actually a fun career when balanced over its entirety!
As an outsider (albeit a qualified one) may I risk the ire of the clearly agitated HKA pilot force?
Although I fully understand the underlying reasons for the vitriol it is difficult to relate to some of the distasteful racist posts on this site. However it is PPrune -not the local parish magazine. It is difficult to believe that the aggrieved guys are aiming at the right targets - the operational managers can only do what the shareholders instruct them to and the CAD condones (or refuses to acknowledge they know about.)
There is a mechanism for ensuring the CAD are seen to know about safety issues and have to act - it is called MOR and anyone can submit. If on the other hand there is little wrong with the operational standards and this is purely a matter of an industrial dispute, then at least the thread is a great place to vent their spleen! Sadly, I suspect that some of the people posting may not know the difference.
Commercial failure will make the rest irrelevant, hopefully before there is an accident. The Oasis experience makes the point very eloquently that a sympathetic operational management paying above industry salaries with a faulty business model merely hasten the progress to the dole queue.
The bright side is, as the sacked guys proved, a B737-800 rating and some jet hours put you in a far better position to get an interview with a decent operator than turbo prop hours with a third level Aussie carrier.
I hope happier times are ahead - aviation is actually a fun career when balanced over its entirety!
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"Aviation is actually a fun career when balanced over it's entirety".
One may say that in retrospect old chap if you have had the benefit of a privileged position in a decent airline in times when management treated its pilots with respect and payed a decent salary etc.. But it certainly does not look like that is going to be the case for pilots starting a career these days with such operators as HKA/HKE. Where there's smoke there's fire.
As for happier times ahead , I would be looking elsewhere for that little gem.
One may say that in retrospect old chap if you have had the benefit of a privileged position in a decent airline in times when management treated its pilots with respect and payed a decent salary etc.. But it certainly does not look like that is going to be the case for pilots starting a career these days with such operators as HKA/HKE. Where there's smoke there's fire.
As for happier times ahead , I would be looking elsewhere for that little gem.
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HKA/E Senior Management
The two positions that likely soon be vacant are President and CEO of HKA.
I think that these moves will be kept very low key. We can no doubt expect a couple of SS "experts" to fill the vacancies.
The question is, how long will Hainan Airlines allow this circus to continue in its present form.
I think that these moves will be kept very low key. We can no doubt expect a couple of SS "experts" to fill the vacancies.
The question is, how long will Hainan Airlines allow this circus to continue in its present form.
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Ok, who read the recent HKA emails today? Maybe the SS guy has been doing this for sometime, and I just didn't notice it. But.........
One of our new, Wuzzy, commander with out a title guy, but makes all the decisions, signs his emails as Capt. Hmmm, I thought that you at least had to be a qualified pilot with an organization, let alone a Captain with an organization to claim that one. Was he recently trained, and assigned to the line?
Maybe it goes along with logging 4-engine jet PIC time. If it is considered 'proper' to title yourself as Captain just because at some point in your past you've been a captain, then hey.....I guess we are all captains!
Life's looking up already! Pay soon to follow!
One of our new, Wuzzy, commander with out a title guy, but makes all the decisions, signs his emails as Capt. Hmmm, I thought that you at least had to be a qualified pilot with an organization, let alone a Captain with an organization to claim that one. Was he recently trained, and assigned to the line?
Maybe it goes along with logging 4-engine jet PIC time. If it is considered 'proper' to title yourself as Captain just because at some point in your past you've been a captain, then hey.....I guess we are all captains!
Life's looking up already! Pay soon to follow!
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Maybe it goes along with logging 4-engine jet PIC time. If it is considered 'proper' to title yourself as Captain just because at some point in your past you've been a captain, then hey.....I guess we are all captains!
Happy Landings!!!
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Captain "Captain"
The two boys who insist of the title "Captain" have less than a year each of Airline command time each. In any other airline they would be regarded as "Commanders in nappies".
"Mdm. Wu-Wu" hasn't qualified as a Captain on the B737, and "Little Dickie's" capabilities were demonstrated on the AEX course that he failed. Speak to some of the FOs who fly with him for more information.
If you need to label yourself as "Captain", I would suggest that it says more about "appendage envy" than anything else.
"Mdm. Wu-Wu" hasn't qualified as a Captain on the B737, and "Little Dickie's" capabilities were demonstrated on the AEX course that he failed. Speak to some of the FOs who fly with him for more information.
If you need to label yourself as "Captain", I would suggest that it says more about "appendage envy" than anything else.