The Demise of Hong Kong Airlines
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Slimeshady
Just coz your old and crusty doesn't make you wise.
"Mate, you can't go on generalising a particular race or nationality just cos a couple of asians" - as commented by you
"dun know about Aust but it's a sound criminology concept everywhere else" - as commented by you
Who's generalising about race here?
When I say by large, the heavy jet, and already type rated pilots that LARGELY come from South-east Asia CANNOT FLY. THEY FAIL. THIS IS FACT not a generalization.
And this is before they start line training, on a type they already fly, that should not include any form of training from a TRE. Should a TRE be teaching circuits at this level of flying??
You need to get your facts right - this argument is not from an Australian point of view, but an across the board view of everyone(and I'll add, I'm not an Aussie), except for a few uninformed, uneducated blokes like yourself.
Get a grip mate. I can just picture you folding maps at the back of the cockpit and getting the captains coffee, feeling your now a real intergral part of flight deck. ????????? Right or Wrong, you shouldn't stick your nose in what you know NOTHING about.
Just coz your old and crusty doesn't make you wise.
"Mate, you can't go on generalising a particular race or nationality just cos a couple of asians" - as commented by you
"dun know about Aust but it's a sound criminology concept everywhere else" - as commented by you
Who's generalising about race here?
When I say by large, the heavy jet, and already type rated pilots that LARGELY come from South-east Asia CANNOT FLY. THEY FAIL. THIS IS FACT not a generalization.
And this is before they start line training, on a type they already fly, that should not include any form of training from a TRE. Should a TRE be teaching circuits at this level of flying??
You need to get your facts right - this argument is not from an Australian point of view, but an across the board view of everyone(and I'll add, I'm not an Aussie), except for a few uninformed, uneducated blokes like yourself.
Get a grip mate. I can just picture you folding maps at the back of the cockpit and getting the captains coffee, feeling your now a real intergral part of flight deck. ????????? Right or Wrong, you shouldn't stick your nose in what you know NOTHING about.
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Dick Stew in Love
This just in...Chief Pilot of Training HKA has been harrassing a KR cabincrew with phone calls and statements of " I LOVE YOU".
Not very appropriate behaviour for a Chief Pilot!
Not very appropriate behaviour for a Chief Pilot!
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The race to the bottom for this company is pretty amazing, death threats, sexual harrassers and a large group of DEC's who can't fly, unfortunately it isn't amusing.
On a brighter note however, with the abrupt departure (read firing) of the now former president due to being unable to meet the Hainan expectations, how long will it be before the bullsh!t and lies the SS have told comes out, is not tolerated, and they are also on the job hunt?
After what they did to the 14 and the previous Flt Ops managers fingers crossed it is not too long.
On a brighter note however, with the abrupt departure (read firing) of the now former president due to being unable to meet the Hainan expectations, how long will it be before the bullsh!t and lies the SS have told comes out, is not tolerated, and they are also on the job hunt?
After what they did to the 14 and the previous Flt Ops managers fingers crossed it is not too long.
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The Ethnic Cleansing Continues
The HKA ethnic cleansing continues with one of the few gweilo Flight Operations administrative staff axed.
Sorry to see you go KW! We will miss you here.
Incompetence replaces competence...but harmonious relationships will be maintained!
What a pack of Sing F&#! Wits Lah!!! Pass me my laksa.
Sorry to see you go KW! We will miss you here.
Incompetence replaces competence...but harmonious relationships will be maintained!
What a pack of Sing F&#! Wits Lah!!! Pass me my laksa.
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Well done KW for lasting so long with those racist useless pricks.
All this will do is accelerate the nose dive the company is in.
Whoop whoop pull up , whoop whoop pull up, hear that Singaswine?
Vertical speed is increasing towards the brown (that's not good incase you missed that day @ pilot school)
I am sure you wouldn't recognize the warning as Indo/Sin pilots tend to hit the ground a lot....
(silk air, adam air, garuda, list is extensive..)
All this will do is accelerate the nose dive the company is in.
Whoop whoop pull up , whoop whoop pull up, hear that Singaswine?
Vertical speed is increasing towards the brown (that's not good incase you missed that day @ pilot school)
I am sure you wouldn't recognize the warning as Indo/Sin pilots tend to hit the ground a lot....
(silk air, adam air, garuda, list is extensive..)
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AAIGAY GUY whatever, hhmm! you were not from Phuket Air but Orient Thai, so said you before. So now they know who you are. SHAME! That's why a vendetta against HKA/HKE with all lies and rumours. Heard you now have your fourth musketeer.
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HKSINGH. I think you will find that AAIGUY doesnt have any vendetta toward HKE, only toward HKA. And quite rightly justified too i might add. The same way you lot bandy together and couldnt give a f@#k about the westerners is the reason for posts like this, his (AAIGUY) and others with similiar views. When will you realise that what they did was immoral and unethical?
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HKSINGH
Its not only AAIGUY, its ALOT of people, ie, Cabin Crew, Local Chinese in Rostering, Operations, Jardair, ALL hate you and think your the laughing stock of the world aviation.
You don't understand that do you??? You Engrish not so good is it??
Read between the lines - you are hated because of your lies, unethical work habits, unsafe flying, and most of all your arrogant attitudes.
The only difference is that we don't stand for that, and will fight it, until you go home and crash your own planes into your own country's mountains and treat your own people the way you and your culture are accustomed to. Not here in Hong Kong.
Go home.
Its not only AAIGUY, its ALOT of people, ie, Cabin Crew, Local Chinese in Rostering, Operations, Jardair, ALL hate you and think your the laughing stock of the world aviation.
You don't understand that do you??? You Engrish not so good is it??
Read between the lines - you are hated because of your lies, unethical work habits, unsafe flying, and most of all your arrogant attitudes.
The only difference is that we don't stand for that, and will fight it, until you go home and crash your own planes into your own country's mountains and treat your own people the way you and your culture are accustomed to. Not here in Hong Kong.
Go home.
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Heard the CRM course was good the other day, just a hint, CRM does not stand for Captains Resource Management, OK La 
Guess the snakes are creaming their jeans at the sight of the Hainan A340 parked near the threshold of 07R
Lets see, where could they use it
so many routes, maybe pik the one with the highest loads...........100 people to Haikou in an A340, sounds like HKA sort of thing...........La
Guess the snakes are creaming their jeans at the sight of the Hainan A340 parked near the threshold of 07R
Lets see, where could they use it
so many routes, maybe pik the one with the highest loads...........100 people to Haikou in an A340, sounds like HKA sort of thing...........La
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AAIGAY GUY whatever, hhmm!
With the management clean out that Hainan have done in recent days, just wait and see how quickly they sweep the broom when one of you clowns has an accident.
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Dear Chief Pilot Training HKA,
Thank you once again for making blatantly obvious that HKA is no place for guys from Australia and New Zealand. Many of these guys have held commands for a few years. Even if it has been on Metro's, Beech's etc etc...they have been well groomed for command. Most of their former companies are well known to airlines like CX and EK due to their high standards in training and professionalism.
Some of your mates that you have brought in to the LHS will not get into airlines like Qantas Link, Eagle Airlines, Air Nelson etc etc. The truth of the matter is that they shouldnt be holding commands on anything.
This command upgrade prerequisite has obviously been geared for your mates that you have hired. And if thats not bad enough you have given most of them jobs as "Project Officers" within the company. With this done you state that "Consideration for Project officers and seniority comes into play when allocating training slots." I agree with respecting seniority but being a project officer shouldnt give anyone an advantage when it comes to promotions.
Soon you may have a situation on your hands where F/O's will leave HKA with you being one reason on their resignation letter.
You are supposed to hold a position of great responsibility. Please make life easier for HKA, the pilots and for yourself and be more professional and transparent with your requirements.
The other thing that you have made obvious is that "Captain" EC will finally become a CAPTAIN.
Realistically the Command Upgrade Prerequisites will see many guys not meeting the criteria except for TOP GUN pilots like yourself and your mates. I dont think that even NASA has these kind of unrealistic requirements.
Thank you once again for making blatantly obvious that HKA is no place for guys from Australia and New Zealand. Many of these guys have held commands for a few years. Even if it has been on Metro's, Beech's etc etc...they have been well groomed for command. Most of their former companies are well known to airlines like CX and EK due to their high standards in training and professionalism.
Some of your mates that you have brought in to the LHS will not get into airlines like Qantas Link, Eagle Airlines, Air Nelson etc etc. The truth of the matter is that they shouldnt be holding commands on anything.
This command upgrade prerequisite has obviously been geared for your mates that you have hired. And if thats not bad enough you have given most of them jobs as "Project Officers" within the company. With this done you state that "Consideration for Project officers and seniority comes into play when allocating training slots." I agree with respecting seniority but being a project officer shouldnt give anyone an advantage when it comes to promotions.
Soon you may have a situation on your hands where F/O's will leave HKA with you being one reason on their resignation letter.
You are supposed to hold a position of great responsibility. Please make life easier for HKA, the pilots and for yourself and be more professional and transparent with your requirements.
The other thing that you have made obvious is that "Captain" EC will finally become a CAPTAIN.
Realistically the Command Upgrade Prerequisites will see many guys not meeting the criteria except for TOP GUN pilots like yourself and your mates. I dont think that even NASA has these kind of unrealistic requirements.
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Left Wing:
To give you a rhetorical question in reply, what would you say if several of the candidates that have "passed" the Alteon Korea course not only failed their 528 (HK sim profiiciency check) and needed remedial training but also failed base training? And this was from supposed experienced captains.
The unsuspecting travelling public would be shivering in their boots with fear if they knew how incompetent some of the commanders of their aircraft are.
Thank goodness for autopilots, tcas, egpws, and reliable engines/systems.
To give you a rhetorical question in reply, what would you say if several of the candidates that have "passed" the Alteon Korea course not only failed their 528 (HK sim profiiciency check) and needed remedial training but also failed base training? And this was from supposed experienced captains.
The unsuspecting travelling public would be shivering in their boots with fear if they knew how incompetent some of the commanders of their aircraft are.
Thank goodness for autopilots, tcas, egpws, and reliable engines/systems.
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Alteon Training Quality
I just wonder what have happned to those pilots who had failed their 528/ based training. I thought that they should have been well trained by Alteon.
Is there anything wrong with Alteon's taining as far as quality control concern? Otherwise, the what so called incompetent pilots shouldn't have passed their initial Sim.Checks with Alteon anyway.
If it was Alteon's training quality problem, I urged CAD to revoke its designated training certificate.
Is there anything wrong with Alteon's taining as far as quality control concern? Otherwise, the what so called incompetent pilots shouldn't have passed their initial Sim.Checks with Alteon anyway.
If it was Alteon's training quality problem, I urged CAD to revoke its designated training certificate.
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Is there anything wrong with Alteon's taining as far as quality control concern?
WRT to what Drool said re. CAD, ditto.
How will the bedwetter meet the new " Superpilot " requirements for command
Has he been counting sandwich and bunk making time Or have all those TSN overnights added up to 5000hrs
