HKA DFO Resigns....
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HKA DFO Resigns....
Well..
The day has come.
The bastards in the far corner have forced him out.
Eric the Idiot must be cumming in his wet shorts.
This should be a clear sign to everyone left @ HKA that its over.
Back your bloody bags.
The day has come.
The bastards in the far corner have forced him out.
Eric the Idiot must be cumming in his wet shorts.
This should be a clear sign to everyone left @ HKA that its over.
Back your bloody bags.
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Excellent news, now maybe the snowball may increase in size as it comes rolling down the ice covered slippery slope. Good luck to him and may he find an employer who will treat him well with the respect that his experience and knowledge deserves. 
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What sort of support are the pilots of HKA giving the former GMF? As I understand he was doing everything for his pilots and also gave the "big break" to alot of guys.
Shouldnt there be some sort of comradery shown to him? Isnt it time the the rest of the pilots stood up and challenged management directly? In the airline industry if the pilots dont unite then the management will walk all over them...as is the case with HKA.
Salary wise you guys are getting the short end of the stick. Is there a reasom for this? I am sure that Hainan has ALOT of money to invest in HKA...but at the end of the day the pilots arent mainlanders who work for peanuts and fly like monkeys!
Shouldnt there be some sort of comradery shown to him? Isnt it time the the rest of the pilots stood up and challenged management directly? In the airline industry if the pilots dont unite then the management will walk all over them...as is the case with HKA.
Salary wise you guys are getting the short end of the stick. Is there a reasom for this? I am sure that Hainan has ALOT of money to invest in HKA...but at the end of the day the pilots arent mainlanders who work for peanuts and fly like monkeys!
where is the support guys ?
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To Those Who Thinks They Know GR....
From a very reliable source.....
He is not who he claims to be, the truth is out and he's been allowed a graceful exit. Very big of "senior management", i must add.
Guess his lies caught up with him finally.....
To those about to come to his defence, please check your facts first.
He is not who he claims to be, the truth is out and he's been allowed a graceful exit. Very big of "senior management", i must add.
Guess his lies caught up with him finally.....
To those about to come to his defence, please check your facts first.
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GR was prone to be a bit of over optimism..as well as spreading the truth a bit lightly. He also made promises which could not be kept. However, he did have the best of intentions for the pilots and there was no malice or alterior motive in any of his actions. He was basically what you see is what you get. One of the few guys who says what he feels and will tell you to your face if you need telling off. Lets not forget that he has indeed given many their first jet jobs!
For so long now, he was playing the game of trying to please both sides and keeping everyone happy. In so doing, he has alienated many of the pilots who were tired of his promises.
So for the guys who are not in the company, please don't go on about this "all for one and one for all" stuff. He's not been sacked he's voluntarily resigned, which in some circles may sound like a sacking, but if you know GR, he was probably so pissed off that he did resign, he's still a TRE and he's still hanging around, and for all we know he's done everyone a favour, especially if management now see the full anger that is amongst the ranks of the pilots.
I'm sure GR being the chap he is, has been shielding the management of how the pilots really feel. Once they know the true feelings, they may reconsider their actions..which may not be a good thing!!
For so long now, he was playing the game of trying to please both sides and keeping everyone happy. In so doing, he has alienated many of the pilots who were tired of his promises.
So for the guys who are not in the company, please don't go on about this "all for one and one for all" stuff. He's not been sacked he's voluntarily resigned, which in some circles may sound like a sacking, but if you know GR, he was probably so pissed off that he did resign, he's still a TRE and he's still hanging around, and for all we know he's done everyone a favour, especially if management now see the full anger that is amongst the ranks of the pilots.
I'm sure GR being the chap he is, has been shielding the management of how the pilots really feel. Once they know the true feelings, they may reconsider their actions..which may not be a good thing!!
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Also from a reliable source GR is what you see is what you get and that he is an AMAZING guy! Then again people who couldnt be patient got up and left and spread CRAP about GR. These guys who had left had obviously known what they were in for when they joined HKA....they had obviuously come from a worse off position. If they werent happy at HKA or their previous job then these guts will not be happy anywhere...only to jump from job to job! I agree with Beerboy although his broken promises were not lies...it was merely what he wanted his pilots to get. Why would he resign from his position? I am guessing that he was frustrated with management. His vision for his pilots was never treated as serious. We must realise that if HKA had a western style management many of GR's 'wishes' would have come true but with the mainland bosses it was like banging his head against a brick wall!
Before people start accusing GR of things maybe they should realise what situation he was in...ie trying to do the best for his pilots and trying to get a balance from management. What was wrong with what he said "false promises"....all he did was do his best! What would he get from lying to his pilots???
Before people start accusing GR of things maybe they should realise what situation he was in...ie trying to do the best for his pilots and trying to get a balance from management. What was wrong with what he said "false promises"....all he did was do his best! What would he get from lying to his pilots???
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Dragonspice,
I agree to a point.
I don't believe GR would maliciously want to lie to us , and he did do his best to try and increase our conditions.
That said, he was paid to keep pilots @ HKA. I would expect him to encourage people to stay.
Either way, if this Singaporean muppet shows, all Gwelio are screwed.
I agree to a point.
I don't believe GR would maliciously want to lie to us , and he did do his best to try and increase our conditions.
That said, he was paid to keep pilots @ HKA. I would expect him to encourage people to stay.
Either way, if this Singaporean muppet shows, all Gwelio are screwed.
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People...... we are not talking about his time in HKA.....
We are referring to his past, and about the 'wonderful' memories he had of his flying career, when he was composing his rather formidable and impressive "CV".
Would suppose those are pretty much the same "memories" he told everyone he meets too?
'What-you-see-is-what-you-get'?
How often in the REAL world do you get that?
Are you really that gullible?
or is that actually you replying, GR?
From your "now public records", won't be surprised.....
We are referring to his past, and about the 'wonderful' memories he had of his flying career, when he was composing his rather formidable and impressive "CV".
Would suppose those are pretty much the same "memories" he told everyone he meets too?
'What-you-see-is-what-you-get'?
How often in the REAL world do you get that?
Are you really that gullible?
or is that actually you replying, GR?
From your "now public records", won't be surprised.....
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Not sure why you are trying to slander the guy.
True or not or othewise.
He resigned of his own choice, due to Snr.Mgnt's inability to the think outside the chopstick.
We have had our differences, he and I, but I don't doubt for a second, he ALWAYS worked to try and improve things for the guys. Whether that worked or not, is secondary. His heart was in the right place
True or not or othewise.
He resigned of his own choice, due to Snr.Mgnt's inability to the think outside the chopstick.
We have had our differences, he and I, but I don't doubt for a second, he ALWAYS worked to try and improve things for the guys. Whether that worked or not, is secondary. His heart was in the right place
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AAIGUY
It's not slander, if it's TRUE ......
Anyway, not about to get into a debate with you.....
Do not believe everything you hear, and your version of recent events is inaccurate....
Hoofharted
"I heard that the resignation was withdrawn. So whats the story now, another day another shovel of bulltwang?"
He did resign previously, from his appointment. But when asked to leave the company, HE withdrew the letter..... So much for conviction!
More recently?
We will all know the truth ....... sooner rather than later in this case....
It's not slander, if it's TRUE ......
Anyway, not about to get into a debate with you.....
Do not believe everything you hear, and your version of recent events is inaccurate....
Hoofharted
"I heard that the resignation was withdrawn. So whats the story now, another day another shovel of bulltwang?"
He did resign previously, from his appointment. But when asked to leave the company, HE withdrew the letter..... So much for conviction!
More recently?
We will all know the truth ....... sooner rather than later in this case....
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Highspeed, sounds like that very reliable source seems to be yourself.
As for those wonderful stories, well I really couldn't care less, as I already stated he's very colorful with his words. What I do know is that during his tenure, he's always tried to fight for the underdog, he's always tried to give guys a chance, guys who might not have ever had a chance at a jet job. He's made mistakes of giving guys a command when they shouldn't have been given one and then had the same guys turn on him when they weren't up to the job.
I base my opinion on what I know and that he is not perfect( as if anyone is) but that he genuinely wants to help.
Dragon, if you don't work here, then I would wonder where you get all this information on how badly we've treating GR. I would suggest to your source to get some facts straight:
1) Guys have been promised a command since the arrival of the first 737, well over 14 months ago, I know these guys and they would fit in well anywhere, very professional and great pilots. They are angry and rightly so.
2) As for the chaps who have left, they were made to believe things that did not turn up in the contract, things which GR had promised them. If you want to say that GR did not lie,then fair enough,in the end these guys decided enough was enough and good on them.
3) GR gets on very well with the mainland bosses, he's never had problem with them and they've been the reason why he's been in his job for so long. The people that he has been fighting against are the old CR management as well as HKCAD. misquoted from GR himself.
As for those wonderful stories, well I really couldn't care less, as I already stated he's very colorful with his words. What I do know is that during his tenure, he's always tried to fight for the underdog, he's always tried to give guys a chance, guys who might not have ever had a chance at a jet job. He's made mistakes of giving guys a command when they shouldn't have been given one and then had the same guys turn on him when they weren't up to the job.
I base my opinion on what I know and that he is not perfect( as if anyone is) but that he genuinely wants to help.
Dragon, if you don't work here, then I would wonder where you get all this information on how badly we've treating GR. I would suggest to your source to get some facts straight:
1) Guys have been promised a command since the arrival of the first 737, well over 14 months ago, I know these guys and they would fit in well anywhere, very professional and great pilots. They are angry and rightly so.
2) As for the chaps who have left, they were made to believe things that did not turn up in the contract, things which GR had promised them. If you want to say that GR did not lie,then fair enough,in the end these guys decided enough was enough and good on them.
3) GR gets on very well with the mainland bosses, he's never had problem with them and they've been the reason why he's been in his job for so long. The people that he has been fighting against are the old CR management as well as HKCAD. misquoted from GR himself.
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Beerboy...I totally agree with you. You might have misunderstood me regarding you guys treating GR badly....It was not my intention to get that message accross. Its was more probably inline with the comment you made later...ie He's made mistakes of giving guys a command when they shouldn't have been given one and then had the same guys turn on him when they weren't up to the job.
And as for HIGHSPEEDPASS's "He did resign previously, from his appointment. But when asked to leave the company, HE withdrew the letter..... So much for conviction!". Do you guys really think that HKA would ask him to leave...especially with the shortage of captains and training captains??? I doubt that very much. GR has been and always will be an asset to HKA (for any airline for that matter). I might not be directly involved with HKA but I know this guy personally. I have heard many great things about GR. I know for a fact that his C & T ability is well above average.
And what if he has had a "PAST".....thats what it exactly is...his "PAST"...so leave it in the "PAST". HIGHSPEEDPASS might have an unblemished flying record and an ability to fly for NASA but slandering GR is uncalled for. He has done more right than wrong with my peers...and has alot of respect out there.
And as for HIGHSPEEDPASS's "He did resign previously, from his appointment. But when asked to leave the company, HE withdrew the letter..... So much for conviction!". Do you guys really think that HKA would ask him to leave...especially with the shortage of captains and training captains??? I doubt that very much. GR has been and always will be an asset to HKA (for any airline for that matter). I might not be directly involved with HKA but I know this guy personally. I have heard many great things about GR. I know for a fact that his C & T ability is well above average.
And what if he has had a "PAST".....thats what it exactly is...his "PAST"...so leave it in the "PAST". HIGHSPEEDPASS might have an unblemished flying record and an ability to fly for NASA but slandering GR is uncalled for. He has done more right than wrong with my peers...and has alot of respect out there.
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yeah regardless of the "PAST" ... GR has given many opportunity to many people and has helped many out there. He deserves the support for what he has fought for the guys in HKA.
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Heard this new Singaporean HKA DFO was with AHK before and with his sneaky Singaporean buddies, they tried to destablelize AHK.
Well done to these SNAKES IN THE BUSH.
Big waves on the way, enough damage over AHK and they will soon be doing some "ethnic cleansing" with HKA...........Watch out ppl in HKA......
Well done to these SNAKES IN THE BUSH.
Big waves on the way, enough damage over AHK and they will soon be doing some "ethnic cleansing" with HKA...........Watch out ppl in HKA......
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The Singapore's SNAKES IN THE BUSH are conducting interviews in Indonesia for HKA though officially they may not be employ. To use these 3rd class pilots for their "ethnic cleasing" agenda.
Have fun guys.............................
Have fun guys.............................