HKA DFO Resigns....
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Hey guys..! don`t be sensitive...on `indonesians` or not...as mention look at the big picture someone is trying to pose, and pass the mesage..
ie the singapore mafia displacing the present magnt and taking control by this inexperienced way junior captains with less than 1,000 PIC ....claiming to be experts in aviation industry.
Good luck guys!!!!
ie the singapore mafia displacing the present magnt and taking control by this inexperienced way junior captains with less than 1,000 PIC ....claiming to be experts in aviation industry.
Good luck guys!!!!
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Whow!!! 
Aviation is getting very interesting and exciting. ..
Are this the bunch of `KIDS` from Air hing kong who got their PIC with short-cuts and bribery..??? Good luck boys with HK air
Aviation is getting very interesting and exciting. ..Are this the bunch of `KIDS` from Air hing kong who got their PIC with short-cuts and bribery..??? Good luck boys with HK air
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Looks like an apple smells like an apple.......
If it looks like an apples, and smells like an apple, it is probably an apple.
Just look at the turn of events in a logical sequence:
1. Manager from AHK is approached for over a year to come to HKA.
2. Said manager is recruited, along with 8 or 9 Captains (qualified or not).
3. Upgrade program is not approved by HK CAD, not because there were problems with the program. Simply because, the CEO sent a letter to CAD instructing them to not approve the upgrade program at this time (Fact). Hmmmm, what could possibly be the motivation for that.
4. Current management was not in the loop on the manager being recruited from AHK, or the captains being recruited, or the letter from the CEO.
One can only hypothesize as to the reasons for the above. But......could it be that the CEO knew that GR was going to be replaced, sooner or later, and the ideal would be to have a shortage of Captains=HKA needs Captains=GR coldn't get the upgrade program approved=so, GR needs to be releaved=now we can bring in DE Captains that will accept lower pay, shut up and do as they're told. Then, the upgrade program can be approved (meaning, "See, it really was GRs problem"), but "Oh, I'm sorry, at the present we would upgrade you, but because we 'had' to hire DE captains from AHK, we now don't need any more captains at this time. So, please hang in there for the next three years. Something is bound to open up. Oops, sorry but, by the way, we've change our upgrade minimums. Perhaps you'll meet them by the time you have finsihed your three year contract. "
I could be wrong in my deduction, but I don't have to eat too many bad apples to know I don't like them.
Just look at the turn of events in a logical sequence:
1. Manager from AHK is approached for over a year to come to HKA.
2. Said manager is recruited, along with 8 or 9 Captains (qualified or not).
3. Upgrade program is not approved by HK CAD, not because there were problems with the program. Simply because, the CEO sent a letter to CAD instructing them to not approve the upgrade program at this time (Fact). Hmmmm, what could possibly be the motivation for that.
4. Current management was not in the loop on the manager being recruited from AHK, or the captains being recruited, or the letter from the CEO.
One can only hypothesize as to the reasons for the above. But......could it be that the CEO knew that GR was going to be replaced, sooner or later, and the ideal would be to have a shortage of Captains=HKA needs Captains=GR coldn't get the upgrade program approved=so, GR needs to be releaved=now we can bring in DE Captains that will accept lower pay, shut up and do as they're told. Then, the upgrade program can be approved (meaning, "See, it really was GRs problem"), but "Oh, I'm sorry, at the present we would upgrade you, but because we 'had' to hire DE captains from AHK, we now don't need any more captains at this time. So, please hang in there for the next three years. Something is bound to open up. Oops, sorry but, by the way, we've change our upgrade minimums. Perhaps you'll meet them by the time you have finsihed your three year contract. "
I could be wrong in my deduction, but I don't have to eat too many bad apples to know I don't like them.
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What ShotOver is saying makes sense. There seems to be a conspiracy going on with HKA CEO/HKCAD on one side and the management and pilots of HKA on the other.
If it is true that the HKA CEO is after DEC's for lower pay then these rumours of HKA's salary/package increase is exactly that....just rumours!
Conditions havent improved much in over a year since the birth of HKA...does one think that things will get better especially with GR resigning and a mini exodus of pilots leaving for greener pastures?
In a way I agree with GR's resignation. Why would he want to work under a CEO who seems to favour corrupt practices. Is the 15% gratuity guaranteed after the 3 year contract?!?!?!
What HKA doesnt need now is a bout of racism as read in an earlier post. HKA, HKE, CX and to some extent KA and Oasis consist of many nationalities. We are all pretty much there to do the same job so why does anyone have any right to say which nationality is an inferior pilot?
My best bet is that if the rumours are right about the thought of a union at HKA then HKA management should be worried. Its all about unity...the pilot group at HKA is after the same thing...better conditions and an upgrade program.
Tis the season to be jolly.........tis time to unite!
If it is true that the HKA CEO is after DEC's for lower pay then these rumours of HKA's salary/package increase is exactly that....just rumours!
Conditions havent improved much in over a year since the birth of HKA...does one think that things will get better especially with GR resigning and a mini exodus of pilots leaving for greener pastures?
In a way I agree with GR's resignation. Why would he want to work under a CEO who seems to favour corrupt practices. Is the 15% gratuity guaranteed after the 3 year contract?!?!?!
What HKA doesnt need now is a bout of racism as read in an earlier post. HKA, HKE, CX and to some extent KA and Oasis consist of many nationalities. We are all pretty much there to do the same job so why does anyone have any right to say which nationality is an inferior pilot?
My best bet is that if the rumours are right about the thought of a union at HKA then HKA management should be worried. Its all about unity...the pilot group at HKA is after the same thing...better conditions and an upgrade program.
Tis the season to be jolly.........tis time to unite!
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Why We Bother?
some of us have nothing better to do, so we come in here to slander others.
I drank myself out of a job @ SQ, then created a mess for myself over with Air Asia, came to hong kong when somebody gave me a break with AHK, ran off the runway soon as i started training, NO fault of mine, mind you, airbus didn't teach me the correct technique! But here i still am, with a job and lots of time on my hands.
Nothing better to do, just like you lot, really want to be somebody in the airline industry, but lack the abilities, cause everybody in the world just can't seem to see all my talents, which i know i have, i keep telling everyone that all the time.
I am one of the best, if not the best instructor in the world, if only they will give me a chance to share my knowledge and vast experience.
Guess the only way left for us LOSERS to get somewhere in this world is to slander everyone else. What have we got to lose? Got nothing better to do anyway.
I drank myself out of a job @ SQ, then created a mess for myself over with Air Asia, came to hong kong when somebody gave me a break with AHK, ran off the runway soon as i started training, NO fault of mine, mind you, airbus didn't teach me the correct technique! But here i still am, with a job and lots of time on my hands.
Nothing better to do, just like you lot, really want to be somebody in the airline industry, but lack the abilities, cause everybody in the world just can't seem to see all my talents, which i know i have, i keep telling everyone that all the time.
I am one of the best, if not the best instructor in the world, if only they will give me a chance to share my knowledge and vast experience.
Guess the only way left for us LOSERS to get somewhere in this world is to slander everyone else. What have we got to lose? Got nothing better to do anyway.
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Sunmoon
Even with my superior nowledge of the englasse I don’t follow? What are you on about?
And everyone nos that Brazilian pelots are the best in the world! We invented aviation and are still reinventing it on a daily basis.
I R Baboon.
Even with my superior nowledge of the englasse I don’t follow? What are you on about?
And everyone nos that Brazilian pelots are the best in the world! We invented aviation and are still reinventing it on a daily basis.
I R Baboon.
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Hi baboon,
A TAM planeja oferecer mais serviços e benefícios, mas somente aos passageiros que pagarem por eles. A sua estratégia para se diferenciar da principal concorrente, a Gol, é ampliar o seu programa de cinco diferentes perfis de tarifas, lançado no final de 2006, no qual o passageiro leva o que paga. A informação foi dada ontem pelo recém-empossado presidente David Barioni, que até setembro deste ano era executivo da concorrente, em entrevista a jornalistas na sede da TAM. Ele afirmou também que em 2008 a companhia aérea entra para uma aliança operacional internacional, muito provavelmente, de acordo com analistas, a Star Alliance (até o ano passado, era a Varig a representante brasileira).
A TAM planeja oferecer mais serviços e benefícios, mas somente aos passageiros que pagarem por eles. A sua estratégia para se diferenciar da principal concorrente, a Gol, é ampliar o seu programa de cinco diferentes perfis de tarifas, lançado no final de 2006, no qual o passageiro leva o que paga. A informação foi dada ontem pelo recém-empossado presidente David Barioni, que até setembro deste ano era executivo da concorrente, em entrevista a jornalistas na sede da TAM. Ele afirmou também que em 2008 a companhia aérea entra para uma aliança operacional internacional, muito provavelmente, de acordo com analistas, a Star Alliance (até o ano passado, era a Varig a representante brasileira).
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No but seriously sunmoon. What are you on about?
brasileiro stupid parte de ***** do babuíno
Love I R Baboon
The TAM plans to offer to more services and benefits, but only to the passengers who to pay for them. Its strategy to differentiate itself of the main competitor, the Goal, is to extend its program of five different profiles of tariffs, launched in the 2006 end, in which the passenger leads what paid. The information was given yesterday by just-installed president David Barioni, that until September of this year was executive of the competitor, in interview the journalists in the headquarters of the TAM. It also affirmed that in 2008 the aerial company enters for international an operational alliance, very probably, in accordance with analysts, the Star Alliance (until the passed year, the Brazilian representative was the Varig).
brasileiro stupid parte de ***** do babuíno
Love I R Baboon
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Sunny boy, I was with my CTC, good ole chap from CX, he was watching my technique for lineup and we ran off the hard surface when the brand new engines didn't rev up together. Like i posted earlier, not my fault. He didn't catch the uneven run-up. He was the PNF and instructor. If i were the instructor, nothing of this sort would have happened.
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To All You Bigots
Get off all your high horses, you bunch of bigots.
If the gangsters managing HKA were doing a somewhat okay job, nobody will be fired or replaced or whatever else. Stop blaming the whole world for your inadequacies and slandering the authority when you can't even understand the rules of the state. The replacement is going to have such an easy time showing just how inept you IDIOTS were.
If this is all you can do, it's no wonder why you bigots deserved whatever is coming your way.
Am going to get rid of the new replacement myself, by doing exactly what you nincompoops are doing here. Slander the world, post all the obvious, everybody is dangerous, for ONLY i am fit to fly. I am the ONE expert of aviation here! Only I am qualified to recruit and instruct, if you are not white and/or turbaned, don't bother to apply, for ONLY we are safe and worthy.
If the gangsters managing HKA were doing a somewhat okay job, nobody will be fired or replaced or whatever else. Stop blaming the whole world for your inadequacies and slandering the authority when you can't even understand the rules of the state. The replacement is going to have such an easy time showing just how inept you IDIOTS were.
If this is all you can do, it's no wonder why you bigots deserved whatever is coming your way.
Am going to get rid of the new replacement myself, by doing exactly what you nincompoops are doing here. Slander the world, post all the obvious, everybody is dangerous, for ONLY i am fit to fly. I am the ONE expert of aviation here! Only I am qualified to recruit and instruct, if you are not white and/or turbaned, don't bother to apply, for ONLY we are safe and worthy.
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Exactly How i see It....
Sunmoon wrote -
Why I am writing all of this?
Hiring pilots from Indonesia (or England, USA, Nepal...) the way Singaporean mafia is doing is putting HKG aviation in danger. Giving to someone job offer based on a short conversation in pub somewhere in Tung Chung is nowadays criminal way of doing business.
One crash in HKG or somewhere else involving Airline from HKG can cost many of us our jobs.
HKA management, think about your action!
end quote...
Well done Sunny my boy, you will fit right into my organistion, we should get together, come up with a plan for world domination asap, instead of doing it on our own. i can see all the talents and qualities you have, pretty similar to what i have, but you still need more development, so i will teach you, no worries my boy. I will take care of you rightly.
We will spy on the world and spread malicious rumours whenever and wherever we can.
HKA management must be blind not to hire me for the vacant post of DFO. I will get you back into management Sunny boy, once am there. Then together we will rule the skies over HKG, and when we are done replacing all the pilots here with either our friends or pilots who will lick our shiny boots, we will take on the world.
Who do this singaporean snakes think they are? Coming into our playground, and trying to improve things? We don't need you!
As i understand from my spying, things are running really well over there at HKA for you guys in middle management, till these snakes came along. Recruitment was done not in a pub but over the phone. You only go pubbing with the new joiners when they are employed and brought over. I for one think that is the right way, i love to have a couple of beers myself.
Everything else in your posts, well? I will teach you how to get things right when am there Sunny boy. We just have to tell the world here that we are doing this and that, all the right things, don't really have to do it, mind you, nobody will know any better... for the rest of the world are blind and dumb.
Watch out, you singaporean snakes, am watching you!!!!
Why I am writing all of this?
Hiring pilots from Indonesia (or England, USA, Nepal...) the way Singaporean mafia is doing is putting HKG aviation in danger. Giving to someone job offer based on a short conversation in pub somewhere in Tung Chung is nowadays criminal way of doing business.
One crash in HKG or somewhere else involving Airline from HKG can cost many of us our jobs.
HKA management, think about your action!
end quote...
Well done Sunny my boy, you will fit right into my organistion, we should get together, come up with a plan for world domination asap, instead of doing it on our own. i can see all the talents and qualities you have, pretty similar to what i have, but you still need more development, so i will teach you, no worries my boy. I will take care of you rightly.
We will spy on the world and spread malicious rumours whenever and wherever we can.
HKA management must be blind not to hire me for the vacant post of DFO. I will get you back into management Sunny boy, once am there. Then together we will rule the skies over HKG, and when we are done replacing all the pilots here with either our friends or pilots who will lick our shiny boots, we will take on the world.
Who do this singaporean snakes think they are? Coming into our playground, and trying to improve things? We don't need you!
As i understand from my spying, things are running really well over there at HKA for you guys in middle management, till these snakes came along. Recruitment was done not in a pub but over the phone. You only go pubbing with the new joiners when they are employed and brought over. I for one think that is the right way, i love to have a couple of beers myself.
Everything else in your posts, well? I will teach you how to get things right when am there Sunny boy. We just have to tell the world here that we are doing this and that, all the right things, don't really have to do it, mind you, nobody will know any better... for the rest of the world are blind and dumb.
Watch out, you singaporean snakes, am watching you!!!!
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My dear Sunny boy in that little dreamland,
I am coming for that pathetic little outfit HKA, it's not yours'.
Little arrogant B*****d. It's mine, mine, mine.....!!!!!
Who's gong to terminate me??? who dare???
You can't even get your facts right, little boy. You wanna play in the big leagues, go join the big boys, i was there..... were you, sunny boy?
Talk is cheap matey, we all know how well you did in the company, so don't think you can get away with behaving like you're the boss. You are just another number.... ever wonder why you are wasting your time here slandering the world and bitching about everything?
If you're as good as your claim to be, you will be on another forum, bitching about something else. Can't get a job with the big boys, little Sunny boy?
Unlike me, i have all the experience required to manage half mooners like you.
I am coming for that pathetic little outfit HKA, it's not yours'.
Little arrogant B*****d. It's mine, mine, mine.....!!!!!
Who's gong to terminate me??? who dare???
You can't even get your facts right, little boy. You wanna play in the big leagues, go join the big boys, i was there..... were you, sunny boy?
Talk is cheap matey, we all know how well you did in the company, so don't think you can get away with behaving like you're the boss. You are just another number.... ever wonder why you are wasting your time here slandering the world and bitching about everything?
If you're as good as your claim to be, you will be on another forum, bitching about something else. Can't get a job with the big boys, little Sunny boy?
Unlike me, i have all the experience required to manage half mooners like you.
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Watch out captain beer I.R come to get you. Now that I.R have the top job I.R gunna kick some ass just you watch me! I kick your vb drinkin ass captain beer! Oh and sunmoon please be getting your tongue out of I.R ass.
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bunch of adults talking like kids and things are really getting personal, please show some ethics and professionalism here and no point being a racist. Get together as a team and do what is right instead of pointing fingers, slander, B!tc*, etc.
CAPT. BEER, i believe it is not the first time for you to run off the runway in BKK. What happened at Bandung ? You left some nice skidmarks on the runway didn't you? Were you always too drunk and to show off to and talk BIG that you were in SQ before ? Word around says that you were so pissed drinking and missed your flight during a nitestop and you never got promoted at your BIG league.
CAPT. BEER, i believe it is not the first time for you to run off the runway in BKK. What happened at Bandung ? You left some nice skidmarks on the runway didn't you? Were you always too drunk and to show off to and talk BIG that you were in SQ before ? Word around says that you were so pissed drinking and missed your flight during a nitestop and you never got promoted at your BIG league.
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Sounds and LOOK like just like the present gang in management, don"t you think Sunmoon? Picture of yourself? Perhaps that's why you fit so well? looked in the mirror recently? Can't stand it when the chap you are trying to ridicule here is promoted to the #1 spot?
Party time......... Oh, let the losers lick their wounds here, taste kinda sour? sure, that's jealousy mate!
Party time......... Oh, let the losers lick their wounds here, taste kinda sour? sure, that's jealousy mate!